Frenetic

Were u from? Looptroops albums is ait. Beats are not so good, Embee needs a new formula. Freshest albums beside of course L&F: Late registration BE The Minstrel Show Documentary Definition TT5B

I mighet be wrong, but i recall something in buddhism abut lazyness.

Looking forward to this, next week I'll start my chart info on PS and Lost and found.

Paid In Full - His flow was groundbreaking Raising Hell Fear Of A Black Planet All Eyez On Me The Chronic - the beats and gangsta vibe started it. 36 Chambers - Actually; RZA started the soulsample/pitched soulvoices era. Kanye just renewed it and made it better. Resurrection - One of the best music albums ever. there's alot more lika illmatic, reasonable doubt and KRS albums and more.

After listening to it 10 times a day, i've spent the last days really analyzing the lyrics and flow. Here comes a review, without hype or anything, just some objective views: I said in a debate about kanye that his punchlines sometimes hit you over the head, they're hard and complex, and sometimes they hit you perfect, and sometimes (alot in his early work) it hit's just wrong being wack. This is one of the things i'm gonna handle during this review: 1. Wake Up Mr West -/10 - The intro is some plain talking with a pianosample. 2. Heard Em Say 8,5/10 - The piano on this is incredible, love it when beats include real instruments and not samples, big up jon brion! The drums are a mix of his old bassfilled with a bit of the pattern of old Timbo beats. Don't take it for granted is basically the message, but we'll try to do it anyway if we fail. Lyrics are well done and performed, nice slow flow. 3. Touch The Sky 8/10 - The song that reminds a bit of Will Smith on his first solo album. About being int he top how he got their, feel good! Controversiel sample of move on up. Matter of taste, i don't give a damn what song he samples as long it's groovie. It is. 4. Golddigger 6,5/10 - Good topic, not so good lyrics. Here he punches with the punchlines that are wack. I love the beat, dude has sampled windows xp. 5. Skit 1 -/10 We can't afford no gas. 6. Drive Slow 9/10 - Kanye's first verse in really, really good. Really nice tellinstyle (not storytelling). It isn't about hoes, it's about you can chill down with having the girls, you got the whole life to grow up, don't rush, pump ya breaks. It's about hoes in the girl way not prostitute way. That's the conclusion after listening a couple of times. Beat is really nice, sample has been used before by 2Pac, but it is better used here. 7. My Way Home 9/10 - A guy told me i couldn't give ths a high score cause Kanye ain't innit. Why not? it's on his album and is a part of it, it feels like the album is a movie, and common drops the underline meaning of the album, somebody's trying to find his place. Verse is incredible. Beat is Incredible. 8. Crack Music 9/10 - He talked about using the word nigga in the chorus. He said it was the best word even though he tries to use so little profane words as possible. I agree, Nig*a give the chorus a finishing touch and completes the genius chorus. Some raw hiphop overhere deabting on goverment putting crack, diseases and so on in the black community. Increcible poetry at the ending accoding to my poetry slam champion friend. 9. Roses 10/10 - This is it. This song gave me the same feeling as I got when I heard tell me why the first time, or the rain, or summertime, afro angel or Jesus Walks. It smashes your heart, it turns your world upside down. Musically incredible beat and two, incredible, incredible verses by Kanye. Gotta be a single. 10. Bring me down 7/10 - Lazy by Kanye not using a whole new verse, a really good song. Bits of the verse is from wack Niggas feat Talib & Common. Nice concept though, "hater niggas marry hater bitches and get hater kids". Brandy is really good. A good song, but it feels unnescessary. He could've skipped the song. 11 Addiction 10/10 - " You make me smiiilee with my heart". Gotta be the best sample ever. The second of the three albumhighs. About addictions and his: A girl. but it ain't easy being addicted.. 12. Skit 2 -/10 - hihihi... 13. Diamonds from Sierra Leone 8,5/10 - The two verses don't make sense together, but the beat and flow and everything else is flawless. Jay's verse is like: WOW, but if it would've been on We Major... wouldn't it have been better? 14. We Major 9,5/10 - Bragging is a part of Hiphop, do it in a way that is nice though, Kanye got it, Really Doe got it, Nas got it. The understand it. They perform it really good. If u listens to this and don't smile afterwards you should check you ass up. Less talking, more beat on the end would've given this a ten. 15. Skit 3 -/10 - hahaha.... 16. Hey Mama 10/10 - My mom's angry at me cause I don't make songs like this to her. I hate Kanye for that. AAAHh.. this is genius. wonderful. DAMN! check it out on Oprah soon. 17. Celebration 9/10 - Just forget all the troubles and celebrate. This the **** I pump in my room before I go out. 18. Skit 4 -/10 - busted... 19. Gone 9,5/10 - Cam'Ron should skip the whole dipset **** and focus on making music were his skills are shown. This is really good. Something lacks from it being one of the huge on the album. 20. Diamonds Are forever 8,5/10 - He raps about the situation in the Roc. What a flow! What a beat! Too long second verse even though "throw your hands up like you're bulimic" is one of 2005's funniest punchlines. 21. Late 9/10 - Sorry, but I got a musical orgazm when I heard the beat. Don't be late! Whole Album: 9,5/10. Song for Song: 8,5 Now you're like why did he give it so high score? Cause it may have flaws in song for song, but it's the best well puttogether album I've heard. You don't skip anything, cause it feels like your gonna miss something in the album. You enjoy following the albums as it develops, you just enjoy listening to it, cause the more you listens, the better it gets cause some of the lyrics need that. They need to be listened a couple of times. It could've skipped one or two skits and dropped golddigger. It would've been a ten. My year rank: 1. Kanye West - Late Registration 9,5 1. Common - Be 9,5 3. Will Smith - 9 3. John Legend - 9 5. Little Brother - 8,5 6. The Game - Documentary - 8 This doesn't mean i'm disssing WIll, but were this and commons album got at most one less good song, L&F got 2-3. They're more solid. But These are all albums that are going to rememberd as big moments in hiphop, in our fans eyes they're all classics. More good albums dropped right now then thru all 2004.

Ted: You should def. get John Legend. Wonderful voice. Beatiful music.

After listening to it like 10 times a day, i've spent the last days really analyzing the lyrics and flow. Here comes a review, without hype or anything, just some objective views: I said in a debate about kanye that his punchlines sometimes hit you over the head, they're hard and complex, and sometimes they hit you perfect, and sometimes (alot in his early work) it hit's just wrong being wack. This is one of the things i'm gonna handle during this review: 1. Wake Up Mr West -/10 - The intro is some plain talking with a pianosample. 2. Heard Em Say 8,5/10 - The piano on this is incredible, love it when beats include real instruments and not samples, big up jon brion! The drums are a mix of his old bassfilled with a bit of the pattern of old Timbo beats. Don't take it for granted is basically the message, but we'll try to do it anyway if we fail. Lyrics are well done and performed, nice slow flow. 3. Touch The Sky 8/10 - The song that reminds a bit of Will Smith on his first solo album. About being int he top how he got their, feel good! Controversiel sample of move on up. Matter of taste, i don't give a damn what song he samples as long it's groovie. It is. 4. Golddigger 6,5/10 - Good topic, not so good lyrics. Here he punches with the punchlines that are wack. I love the beat, dude has sampled windows xp. 5. Skit 1 -/10 We can't afford no gas. 6. Drive Slow 9/10 - Kanye's first verse in really, really good. Really nice tellinstyle (not storytelling). It isn't about hoes, it's about you can chill down with having the girls, you got the whole life to grow up, don't rush, pump ya breaks. It's about hoes in the girl way not prostitute way. That's the conclusion after listening a couple of times. Beat is really nice, sample has been used before by 2Pac, but it is better used here. 7. My Way Home 9/10 - A guy told me i couldn't give ths a high score cause Kanye ain't innit. Why not? it's on his album and is a part of it, it feels like the album is a movie, and common drops the underline meaning of the album, somebody's trying to find his place. Verse is incredible. Beat is Incredible. 8. Crack Music 9/10 - He talked about using the word nigga in the chorus. He said it was the best word even though he tries to use so little profane words as possible. I agree, Nig*a give the chorus a finishing touch and completes the genius chorus. Some raw hiphop overhere deabting on goverment putting crack, diseases and so on in the black community. Increcible poetry at the ending accoding to my poetry slam champion friend. 9. Roses 10/10 This is it. This song gave me the same feeling as I got when I heard tell me why the first time, or the rain, or summertime, afro angel or Jesus Walks. It smashes your heart, it turns your world upside down. Musically incredible beat and two, incredible, incredible verses by Kanye. Gotta be a single. 10. Bring me down 7/10 - Lazy by Kanye not using a whole new verse, a really good song. Bits of the verse is from wack Niggas feat Talib & Common. Nice concept though, "hater niggas marry hater bitches and get hater kids". Brandy is really good. A good song, but it feels unnescessary. He could've skipped the song. 11 Addiction 10/10 - " You make me smiiilee with my heart". Gotta be the best sample ever. The second of the three albumhighs. About addictions and his: A girl. but it ain't easy being addicted.. 12. Skit 2 -/10 - hihihi... 13. Diamonds from Sierra Leone 8,5/10 - The two verses don't make sense together, but the beat and flow and everything else is flawless. Jay's verse is like: WOW, but if it would've been on We Major... wouldn't it have been better? 14. We Major 9,5/10 - Bragging is a part of Hiphop, do it in a way that is nice though, Kanye got it, Really Doe got it, Nas got it. The understand it. They perform it really good. If u listens to this and don't smile afterwards you should check you ass up. Less talking, more beat on the end would've given this a ten. 15. Skit 3 -/10 - hahaha.... 16. Hey Mama 10/10 - My mom's angry at me cause I don't make songs like this to her. I hate Kanye for that. AAAHh.. this is genius. wonderful. DAMN! check it out on Oprah soon. 17. Celebration 9/10 - Just forget all the troubles and celebrate. This the **** I pump in my room before I go out. 18. Skit 4 -/10 - busted... 19. Gone 9,5/10 - Cam'Ron should skip the whole dipset **** and focus on making music were his skills are shown. This is really good. Something lacks from it being one of the huge on the album. 20. Diamonds Are forever 8,5/10 - He raps about the situation in the Roc. What a flow! What a beat! Too long second verse even though "throw your hands up like you're bulimic" is one of 2005's funniest punchlines. 21. Late 9/10 - Sorry, but I got a musical orgazm when I heard the beat. Don't be late! Whole Album: 9,5/10. Song for Song: 8,5 Now you're like why did he give it so high score? Cause it may have flaws in song for song, but it's the best well puttogether album I've heard. You don't skip anything, cause it feels like your gonna miss something in the album. You enjoy following the albums as it develops, you just enjoy listening to it, cause the more you listens, the better it gets cause some of the lyrics need that. They need to be listened a couple of times. It could've skipped one or two skits and dropped golddigger. It would've been a ten. My year rank: 1. Kanye West - Late Registration 9,5 1. Common - Be 9,5 3. Will Smith - 9 3. John Legend - 9 5. Little Brother - 8,5 6. The Game - Documentary - 8 This doesn't mean i'm disssing WIll, but were this and commons album got at most one less good song, L&F got 2-3. They're more solid. But These are all albums that are going to rememberd as big moments in hiphop, in our fans eyes they're all classics. More good albums dropped right now then thru all 2004.

Yet again...is tell me why gonna be released major..?

Y'all gotta realize that it isn't FP deciding these things, it's a PR and Marketing team put together by Overbrook & Interscope. Getting people on shows ain't easy if they ain't got anything new to come with, cause tv-shows can always find something hot that attracts people. It's gone too long time for him to promote in the same way he did at the album launch. The Golden oppotunity eas at Live 8 and NBA finals. If he had done PS it would've jumpen off. He didn't and it isn't only his fault, it is mainly Interscope and His marketing teams fault.

It's so sad cause New Orleans is in my eye one of the moste beautiful places in the U.S, still not ruined entirely by the new culture, but is alot still founded on it's african, french foundation. It's a cultural landmark that disappears if the storm is "successful"

I loved they way some of the celibritys were excited. BEP went go go and K.West was like daamn

Naaah O.C is the ****.. Incredible dialougues and acting. The scripts is also very fun. Cliché... maybe... but good. Yeah that Lost finale was disappointing. The shows tarted off very well, but went into som drama type of thing. the last 3-4 episodes were good but the last one was so so.

After a few months.. i get very happy reading the big hiphopboards like SOHH or AHH and finding out how much people like L&F. Even if he doesn't sell so much this album got him a couple of new fans in the hiphop crowd. Now the thing is everywhere i read that Tell me why should be the next single, that people outside his hardcore fanbase like that song most. in AHH you can read people saying he'll go platinum with releasing that one. My question is; Do you think the song will be released? PS should've come out in like june/july. It didn't it premiers in almost September, the time Tell me why suits the best. So is it possible that Tell me why will be released or is PS the last single of the album?

In a few weeks my life will yet again only have one purpose: Coming home downloading the latest O.c episode from the states. Is Trey dead? What's gonna happen to Marissa? Will Summer and Seth hold on to eachother more than two episodes? ---- Also the best action/drama series Lost will start again. What's up with the numbers? What the hekk was that **** in the ground? Will there be a Locke situation? ---- Don't call me a...whatever but Desperate Housewives got me hooked. Did Mike die? Is that little bi*ch Mike's son? Wassup with the black family moving in?

some of the people on this board are like majorly huge Will Smith fans and to some people, he's the best rapper ever and every album he does is the best. then there's just big fans who appreciate a whole spectrum of music and aren't quite as big of fans of Will Smith. it's ok tho cuz we're all fans. even tho this is the off topic board a lot of our musical tastes are still based around Will Smith. if u want people raving over Kanye like we rave over Will, then ur on the wrong board. ← nah man..that's the thing.. U can't speak about things in a normal tine cause things gotta be "ravy". Topic was just about to start a discussion about a pretty interesting event. And this is by the way a subforum for things not having to be about will.

That didn't help.. =( Why did log in to the internet drunk? GOODNIGHT!

Some info on the new album.. interesting parts are in bold. "In the minstrel shows of the late 1800’s, white and Black performers would blacken their faces with cork and perform as stereotypical, grossly exaggerated racist caricatures of Black culture. Fast forward two hundred years and Black people are still performing in these shows, celebrating senseless materialism, excessive violence, and blatant misogyny. Only today, they aren’t known as minstrels. They’re now known as rap stars. Chicken and watermelon have been replaced with rims and jewellery, turning hip-hop into one big modern-day minstrel show... Such is the central idea behind Little Brother’s highly anticipated and wildly imaginative sophomore album, “THE MINSTREL SHOW.” The Durham, North Carolina-based trio of emcees Phonte and Big Pooh, and producer 9th Wonder, struck critical gold with their 2003 debut, “THE LISTENING,” a soulfully vibrant concept album that focused on a day in the life of a fictional radio station (WJLR, Justus League Radio). Picking up where “THE LISTENING” left off, “THE MINSTREL SHOW” opens with the introduction of the fictional television network, UBN (U Black Niggers). After WJLR is purchased by UBN in a corporate takeover funded by the Atlantic Group, the station finds a hit with its new series, “The Minstrel Show,” starring Little Brother. The underlying theme is that while the group finds success and escapes their humble beginnings, they ultimately pay a price for it by sacrificing their dignity. Conceptualized like a low-budget episode of “Saturday Night Live,” complete with commercial breaks and musical guests, “THE MINSTREL SHOW” is a darkly humorous album that is equal parts soul and satire. “To me, ‘THE MINSTREL SHOW’ is ultimately about responsibility,” says emcee Phonte. “As rappers, we have to take responsibility for what we say, and for the images we portray to our people. If not, we’re doing essentially what minstrel shows did: perpetuating negative images and reinforcing those negative stereotypes.” Producer 9th Wonder offers a different take on “THE MINSTREL SHOW” and its role in today’s hip-hop climate: “This album is basically us holding a mirror up to our community and saying, ‘Look what has happened to our art form, look how low our standards have dropped as far as what we accept as good music.’ If we can make people at least think about that, then we’ve done our job.” “We knew we would probably make a lot of people mad,” says Rapper Big Pooh about the album’s controversial title. “That’s just the price you pay for taking a stand. There’s a lot of craziness in hip-hop right now, and hopefully with this album we can bring about some type of balance.” With songs such as “All For You,” which focuses on the pain of being an absentee father, and “Slow It Down,” which discusses the complexity of male-female relationships, “THE MINSTREL SHOW” explores a wide spectrum of topics that speak directly to everyday people. Although much of the subject matter is serious in nature, the album is not without its comical moments. In “Cheatin,” starring Phonte in an uproarious turn as his soul-singing alter ego Percy Miracles, the group takes time to mock present-day R&B. “Minstrelsy doesn’t only occur in rap music,” says Phonte about the track. “A lot of people might ask why we would take time to satirize R&B on a hip-hop album, but nowadays the two genres are virtually the same. A lot of these R&B records are just as silly and juvenile as rap is.” Formed in 2001 in Durham, North Carolina, Little Brother first appeared on the hip-hop scene with their 2003 ABB Records release, “THE LISTENING.” The album immediately struck a chord with the rap community, garnering praise from the likes of Pete Rock and The Roots, as well as catching the ears of Jay-Z, who recruited producer 9th Wonder to craft tracks for him (“Threat”) and Destiny’s Child (“Girl” and “Is She The Reason”). After swift sales and critical praise from virtually all of the mainstream media, the group inked a deal with Atlantic Records in 2004. “Although we’ve been blessed with a bigger record deal, our goals remain the same,” says 9th Wonder. “Our job is to make dope records. That’s what Little Brother is here to do, and that is what we will continue to do.” It has already been declared a classic with a 10/10 review in Scratch Magazine & a 4.5 Mic rating in The Source. " Check em out if u want something different.

WHO THE HELL IS WILL SMITH to have the right to be in the studio with Nicole and not me? Seriously damn!? Is it too much to ask for in this cold world... just fiive minutes with Nicole. Damn Will.. what did u do with her the time u had? I'm on some loretto on Nicole. Seriously. She fits in Bustas nose.

I'd give my left foot to see Slick Rick live. Already seen big daddy kane though.

Why Y'all ALWAYS, ALWAYS gotta do threads to WIll SMith VS the World threads? Y'all insulted by me talking about other rappers? What the hell is wrong with u people.

man y'all one some reefer. the question is: WHAT WORLD DO YOU LIVE IN!? Kanye's work is amongst the majority of the music industry seen as genius and very good. That's the overall view on Kanye West. Now Will ain't got that view on him. If people want to buy a WIll Smith album they dont't buy it cause they know it's good, they buy it cause it's Will Smith and he got hitsingles. And THEN they realize: Damn this boy can actually rap. Will don't get XXL's, Five Mics or Five stars in Rolling Stone. Cause he isn't critically acclaimed wheter u like it not (i don't like it cause i think L&F is one of the best albums released in a long time). Chill the fraaaccck out.

Kanye doesn't give a **** about money either...He's done doing beats for money. He ain't done a beat for cash in a long time..That's why COmmons "BE" is a incredible cash success... Dude got 9 beats for free and is on its pace to sell as much as Will. He made maaad much money on it Common. He dais he only producing cats he feeling...but the bad thing with Kanye is that he's got a awful taste in rapmusic.. Mase & P Diddy is said to be his idols when he was little.. so he giving them free beats. But he also giving like Talib, Jean Grae, Mos, Dead Prez and so on free beats. That's pretty cool.. cause then you know that the producer is actually trying to make good music and not fast money like when Tibaland was doing crap beats for about 1-2 years ago. His comeback didn't come until Justins Cry me a river and Jay's Dirt off ya shoulder. I like Will and Kanye as much. They're different kind of rappers that i listen to in different occasions. Note: Kanye's Touch the sky sounds alot like the feel good songs on Big Willie Style. Drive slow homie Chorus: "You need to pump ya breaks and drive slow homie" - His verse is about chlling down with ya boy trying to get girls... Alot like Pump ya breaks. But the whole song style is different. Hey Mama is the best Mama song done since Pac contributed to the genre. "You're like a book a poetry; Maya Angelo, ???? Giovanni and turn one page and there's my Mami.. "

The thread ain't about WIll, Will won't outsell anyone of the the rappers I said. But since y'all talking about it. I think Partystarter will need 10-20 days to catch on. Hopefully we'll see a rise in the charts in about two weeks. Kanye is going to be on Oprah performin his next single Hey Mama soon. He's going to be at the MTVMA's doing a commercial for pepsi done by Spike Lee. (How weird doesn't that sound??). That and a incerdible hype surrounding the album right now is the foundations that are set for a 900k sale according to several experts. They also look at the fact that Kanye is not a single-song person.. Most people will buy his album cause they'll know it's good. Not for the singles or popfactor.

Both albums was pushed back from 12 July. Could this be the first time a G-unit soldier only does Gold? Or is Kanye too provocative to the masses? Does the people want fastfood music or something they can analyze? Yayo is set for about 400k in sales, Kanye about 900k. This should be one of the biggest days in the record/hiphop industry/mainstream for the sales as they are able to sell about as much as the whole top 20 alone. Who's gonna sell more ya think?