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Frenetic

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  1. I hate him... I HATE HIM: More than 50 cent, more than Ying Yang Twins.. I HATE HIM!
  2. Bigted// Nah.. I was in a hurry and just wrote that JJFP was mentioned in the article =) AJ// Atleast you feel something for him don't you.. whether it's hate, love or something inbetween.. he provokes... And it's cool with that kind of people.
  3. The whole article is pretty long.. can be read here: Article The part with JJFP (ain't nothing special): "In the '80s, DJ Jazzy Jeff and the Fresh Prince, A Tribe Called Quest and LL Cool J successfully wove suburban perspectives into rebellious music, but when gangsta rap arrived, nuance was smothered by a blanket of extreme poses. Tupac Shakur, once a student at the Baltimore School for the Arts, died with thug life tattooed across his torso. On The College Dropout, West found a way to bridge the divide without self-destruction. His follow-up, Late Registration, arrives Aug. 30 and continues to mix race and class with beats and melodies. It is widely expected to be the biggest-selling record of the year—1.6 million copies will be shipped to stores for its first week of release."
  4. Lol..I just did my first round... i put the bar pretty low
  5. Ait... gon practise on Hero1 before I slay Maxfly in the final =)
  6. Maan.. i just broke the record with over 1000 points.. but it was in the tournament and it didn't count in the arcade.. what's thaaat.. aaah.
  7. It's a really good year! I didn't know when those albums Lerkot said would be released.. but it's def dope as cocaine!
  8. Still.. to use WW2 and Cas camps in lyrics is extremely insensitive and wrong.
  9. Brakes got almost 200 as highscore.. i just did almost 800 in my first try. Hero...u goin down booyy
  10. This fall and next year these albums are coming: A new Blackstar A new Reflections Eternal Mos Def - The undeniable Nas - Nasdaq Jones Nas - The Lost Tapes 2 Kanye West - Late Registration Saigon gon drop something.. A new Game album from his recors company that just got a contract inked with Aftermath... 50 Cent should be pretty mad.
  11. Those lyrics shown is proof enough for me to know that they're idiots.
  12. Hell no... Don't want the RIAA down my ass.
  13. From the independent. "Rap music and the far right: Germany goes gangsta A new wave of rap music is sweeping Germany: sexist, violent, often racist - and adored by neo-Nazis. Ruth Elkins reports on the alarming advance of the shock troops of popular culture Published: 17 August 2005 "If it doesn't work out with hip hop," shrugs Bushido, Germany's most notorious rap star, "then I'll just sell drugs." It probably won't come to that. The 26-year-old half Tunisian Berliner is turning the world of German hip hop upside down. The child of a German mother and an immigrant father is attracting, against all normal logic, a massive audience of neo-Nazis who love his hard-edged, racist and nationalistic lyrics. There has never been any doubting Bushido's bad boy credentials. He is currently, and not for the first time, in an Austrian jail, waiting to see if he must stand trial on GBH charges. Earlier this month, an unfortunate 20-year-old Austrian man made the mistake of wandering too close to Bushido's pimped-up 7 Series BMW. It is alleged the rapper and his two bodyguards suspected the man had punctured the tyres, and beat him senseless. Bushido could face 10 years in jail. Bushido's latest brush with the law was par for the course for a true gangsta rapper. 50 Cent, Ja Rule, Snoop Dogg: all the American rap stars worth their platinum discs and pimped-out Hummers have had run-ins with the law or spent time behind bars. But there is something different about Bushido, a beefy man with five tattoos. He has sparked a huge debate in Germany, a country still new to gangsta rap, about how racist and offensive song lyrics can be before they become outright neo-Nazi propaganda. The police and the German equivalent of special branch have monitored the ultra-right rock scene for years. They have secretly recorded concerts of groups such as Kraftschlag, Ayran Duo and Reichsfront, banned their CDS and raided distributors. These kind of bands, who offer up songs called " White and Full of Hate" have lyrics such as: "We are clansmen, of white race and clean blood; we are clansmen, watch out black man, be on your guard" and are seen as dangerous propaganda tools in the hands of Germany's neo-Nazis as they attempt to reach out to teenagers and school children. Bushido, though, is different. Gangsta rap has at last become a home-grown German product. Tame German rap has been popular here for years: groups such as Die Ärtze released non-controversial hits like: "Claudia's Got an Alsatian", but it was the kind of music that made 12-year-olds giggle. Until very recently, true gangsta rap had been strictly an American import. Spotty German teenagers would don baseball caps and baggy jeans and listen to the likes of Snoop Dogg and 50 Cent rap about things that seemed to come from a different world - the streets of the American inner city ghettos. They were pretty offensive, of course, their songs laced with profoundly sexist content: all men were pimps; all women were bitches. Now Germany has its own gangsta rappers. A country, which until recently was renowned for its affluent, stable economy and inclusive welfare net, (something those who came from the ghettos such as Compton and South Central just didn't have) is hearing about a new harsh German reality. Bushido is to the fore, joined by his foul-mouthed colleagues: Fler, Sido, B-Tight, Kool Savas, Eko Fresh, Brainless Wankers and a collective calling themselves Der Frauenartzt (the Gynaecologist.) In the past year, these rappers who once could only dream of minor fame on the fringes of the Germany's parochial music industry have made it to the mainstream. Their CDs regularly top the charts, their loves lives are followed by the tabloids, their concerts are sold out. Yet they are declaring open warfare on Germany's safe and comfortable consensus society. The new wave of German gangsta rap, says Aggro Berlin, the most successful and notorious of the Berlin independent record labels representing German rap stars, is simply reflective of the hard times in Germany, a country whose economy continues to dip in and out of recession and where unemployment nudges 5 million. But Germany does not have ghettos or race riots, it is, say panicked politicians, in no way comparable with US culture. Germany's new found gangsta rap is glamorising a fantasy of American ghetto life which should be banned, not encouraged. Still, the likes of Bushido seem to want to polarise society. Even the titles of his raps are upsetting the authorities. "Gang Bang" is a nauseating account of violent group sex. " Dreckstück" (Piece of Dirt) is entirely misogynistic and features the lyrics: "Just because you're a woman, doesn't mean I won't beat you till you're blue." Again and again the lyrics of Bushido and his gangsta rapper homies openly flirt with fascism. "Salutiert, steht stramm, Ich bin der Leader wie A," (Salute, stand to attention, I am the leader like 'A'), raps Bushido. The 'A', of course, stands for Adolf. A rap collective called Mor were heavily criticised for rapping lyrics where " Wack MCs" were sent to the "gas showers" and "children to the concentration camps." Fler, 24, another Berlin bad boy went one further. His latest hit, " Neue Deutsche Welle" (New German Wave) which went gold within two weeks of its release, features the ultra nationalistic lyrics: "That is black, red, gold, hard and proud, you might not see it in me, but believe me, my mom (sic) is German". The CD was advertised with an adapted pre-Polish invasion Adolf Hitler quote: "From May 1st, we will shoot back". His name on the CD cover was written in Third Reich style gothic print. The video to "Neue Deutsche Welle", constantly played on Germany's rolling music channels is set in a deprived high-rise East Berlin estate and features German flag waving, a complete taboo, as well as the ultimate Nazi symbol, an eagle, landing on the rapper's shoulder. The video's director said he would have liked to have lots of skinheads march through the estate with Fler, but worried, "that it might have pushed us into a bit of a corner." But Fler wasn't done with his neo-Nazi antics. Rumours flew recently that he had called his producer, DJ Ilan a " money grabbing Jewish pig." Germany's newspapers were outraged, but Fler didn't bother to deny it. Germany's far-right party, The NPD has even recommended "Neue Deutsche Welle" to party members. No wonder the German ultra right is so enthralled. "Though I think it is wrong to over-exaggerate the problem, the far right are definitely getting more interested in German hip hop, more so since the genre become so popular in mainstream culture," says Hannes Loh, 34, a former anti-fascist rapper and co-author of the book, Kanak Planet: Hip Hop Between World Culture and Nazi Rap. As early as 2001, the far-right rock magazine, Rocknord published an article headlined: "Hip Hop Is Going White Faster Than You Think". The neo-Nazi readership responded with hungry interest. "National Socialism always based itself around the masses," commented one reader. "If the masses are listening to hip hop, then why not?" Another said: " I hate hip hop like the plague, but I'd welcome it, if the raps went along with 'right' way of thinking." And no wonder so much of Germany's new brand of gangsta rap is being banned. Bushido's 2001 album, King of Kingz, and his more recent releases, Electric Ghetto and Vom Bordstein bis zur Skyline are all on the banned Index produced by Germany's Federal Department for Media Harmful to Young People, mostly it says: "because they discriminate about women and advocate violence". Similarly, Aggro Berlin composition sampler albums Ansage Nr.2 And Ansage Nr.3 which feature titles by Fler, Bushido and Sido such as: "call-a-Nigger", " @#%$" and "Oh @#%$!" have also been banned. Although it does not prevent them being sold to those over the age of 18, they cannot be advertised and once they are on the Index, most large record stores don't bother to stock them. Bushido and his colleagues say they don't know what the fuss is all about. " I've always distanced myself from this far-right rubbish," Bushido said recently of the neo-Nazi fans who beg him to autograph their skinheads. " There is no trying to understand Nazis, but what are you going to do? If that guy is cool with me during the hour in which I'm giving my concert and respects the other people, then I think I've done a good job." Mor, the rap collective, were outraged at accusations they were right wing. " We're No Nazis and have no intention of promoting nationalistic German rap," it wrote, incensed, on its website. "In fact, there is no such thing as German nationalistic hip hop!" Perhaps just as worrying, is German gangsta rapper's similarly laissez faire attitude towards the violence and sexism their lyrics promote. "That's just how group sex is, you know," shrugged Bushido when one journalist accused him of misogyny regarding his song "Gang Bang". Bushido has a young daughter and maintains he only hits people who insult his mother, but does not think his rap promotes violence. "I say to the kids, when you press 'play' and listen to my CD, then you spend 70 minutes in my life. When you press 'stop', then you're back in your life, with your parents, your teachers and the police who will arrest you if you make trouble." Many arts commentators agree that Germany's new gangsta rap is nothing to worry about. "Fler is no Nazi," says Dennis Kraus of hip hop magazine, Backspin. "He's just unbelievably stupid." Even the ultra-conservative Frankfurter Allgemeine Zeitung says German rap's newfound offensive, nationalist tone is merely a ploy to sell records. "Fler just got what was left in Aggro Berlin's bag of tricks to get it noticed," it sniffed last month. "The 'crass nigger' character role was given to B-Tight, Sido got to wear the silver death mask. The only thing that was left for Fler which would cause any kind of outrage was the German flag." "German gangsta rap is easy to deconstruct," says Hannes Loh, who runs seminars for school children to educate them about the genre. " Usually within about 10 minutes of discussion, you can get them thinking objectively." He, too, is not overly worried. "Ok, you could say this rap music is affecting children at a sensitive age; most fans are between 12 and 16 years old. But the truth is it's not really like that." He pauses for a while, then sighs. "The thing is, this kind of music is mostly listened to by white, middle-class kids who just want shock their parents. By the time they're 16, they've lost interest." German gangsta rap, he says, is just a phase. "It'll pass in time. Then maybe some of the really good stuff will replace it." Top ten German rockers Kraftwerk The German robot-pop legends were the forerunner to today's techno and industrial music, setting the agenda with albums such as Autobahn and " The Man-Machine. Nena "99 red balloons" made Nena an icon of German new wave music in the 1980s. She has just had a successful comeback, with her new singles shooting to no. 1 in the German charts all over again. Herbert Groenemeyer Groenemeyer became famous in the 1980s through songs such as "Maenner" (Men) and "Bochum". He also starred in "Das Boot" (The Boat). Udo Lindenberg A hat, dark sunglasses and a throaty voice were the trademarks. Lindenberg was also the first West German rock star to play a concert in communist East Germany. Nina Hagen Germany's enfant terrible during the 1970s and 1980s; also known as " the mother of punk". Distinctive make-up and dark lyrics. Die Phantastischen Vier The four boys from Stuttgart were the first to rap in German and to get away with it. In the early 1990s they were Germany's answer to Run DMC and the Beastie Boys. Die Aerzte This German punk band reached its peak in the late 1980s shortly after it was banned by the German government. Still touring today. Die Toten Hosen "The Dead Trousers" formed as part of Germany's punk movement in the early 1980s. Their political-minded punk rock is known beyond Germany through songs such as "10 little Jaegermeisters". Modern Talking Germany's most successful disco-pop duo split after three years of roaring success. Their hit "You're my heart, you're my soul" went straight in to the top 10 in 35 countries. Rammstein Famous for their pyrotechnic stage shows. Even though the lyrics are almost exclusively in German this "dance l" band is popular abroad and recently became one of the most successful German-language bands ever. Eva Kuehnen"
  14. Big: You know we'll let the whole legend thing rest for a while ait? That's a touchy topic with alot of different views on it. But the lyrics.. I would say he was 6/10 on college dropout but 7,5/10 on LR. He's just like u said about the remix.. more focused on the topics. The thing with him is that he's got this huge imagination so he uses alot of weird metaphores. Sometimes they got over our head, and sometimes they just wack. He's cut down on those on the album and is more on-topic. And another thing that he has done progress in is his flow, much better. Before he released this album, I was like: You need to do more good things to be rememberable or just significant to the game. If he had putten out a WACK album.. I would not like him as much cause i would lose faith in him as a rapper and entertainer. That's why i was so glad this morning, He delivered, and over my expectations (i mean, the first singles are the wackest songs on the album, and they ain't even wack, just average). And productions wise, With this album he marked his place as one of the biggest ever done it. He ain't there with Pete Rock , Premier yet (even though Premier is a bit overrated in my opinion) or D-Dot. But he's just below, alway gon be remembered. If his next album is as good, I'l count him in right there. We gotta remember that he's being better all the time, He startedt rapping pretty late, I'd give him 2-3 more years developing his skills. It's like he's said himself: My Last album gone be my best, cause i want to be perfected by then. His last album will be Good Ass Job. Edit: now u guys wonder why i didn't write Jazzyz name in the legend zone.. u want the explanation so u guys can hate me anymore huh.. ? Here it is: I forgot it. But he's there to. He's also a legend within the turntableist scene.
  15. I'm wiith schnazz on this one.. The gay community is much like the black community or the Jews when they had their worst time. That would be like in the 60's saying "Hey! That's Nig*g*er!" when meaning that's boring or like whatever u use gay for. The whole discussion reminds me of the islam-hating going on right now.. It's like.. "we don't hate muslim.. but i don't want them in my country".
  16. Reborn to Reign: WOW..ur so funny!!! Bigted: All that other things.. i dunno.. But WILL SMITH's beats haven't been ORIGINAL. JJFP time is somethign else.. They were pretty much groundbreaking back then... but come on.. if ur saying (not only u big ted) that the beats on L&F or Willenium were origininall.. then take it back. Cause will ain't known for doing songs with gruondbreaking beats. Kanye..that's one of his trademarks...doing new kind of beats. And if u listen to the album u'll get me. Dude got live orschestras componing NEW piceces combined with soulsamples or samples of curtis mayfield. COME ON... TRACKMASTERS---KANYE? WHO U GON CHOOSE?
  17. I seriously doubt you know what good beats are than =). The thing almost every one that have heard the album have agreed on..even haters is that he has taken beatmaking to another level with the beats. ← Thats not a "knowing" thing, its a matter of taste. ← Not only. Like.. are there many that didn't like picasso work.. or da vinci? Knaah..cause they were known for doing good things. The beats ARE well done. If u don't like the type of them maybe.. but they are GOOD beats. I mean..just listen to Heard em say. THat is incredible. ← Well no. I dont they are well done, not good or anything. Boring, unoriginal beat. Me dont like. ← That's enough...boring and so on..thats taste....BUT..it isn't UNORIGINIAL! THAT is what it exactly is. UNORIGINAL is Will's beats..but they're good anyway.
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