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  1. Jazzy Julie

    Will Smith

    That reminds me. I need to make an account with the lil Wayne forum to tell them all his music sucks.
    4 points
  2. I took a minute to process the incident and the night in general before posting on here, it hit home for personal reasons, that I’ll explain, and it also took me a while to try and understand what developed and why. After deliberation, obviously violence is never the answer. It’s inexcusable, but, it’s also understandable based on what has been revealed to us in recent months and years. I saw a broken man, at his breaking point, that’s lived pretty much flawlessly over nearly four decades in the public eye. After reading WILL, it opened my eyes to that lack of acceptance Will has always had, and his strive to ‘put right’ what he got wrong as a kid. Namely, his inaction when his father would abuse his mother, both physically and mentally. I believe this played a part in the spur of the moment decision to act when he felt his wife was attacked. Another thing that came to mind is his obsession to not fail, think back to when Sheree divorced Will, and he refused because ‘I don’t get divorced’. He was willing to stay in a marriage he wasn’t happy in because of his commitment to the decision he made. Fast forward to the ‘Entanglement’ and we have a carbon copy of the fight to save his marriage, that got turned into memes and internet trends, namely of Will crying when emotional speaking of his wife’s affair with someone he’d brought into his home to help. I also believe Will becomes so engrossed in roles that he wants to embody what Richard Williams stands for in terms of defence towards his wife and children, and with them all being women, it’s overlapped into Wills personal life. Not just with Jada and his kids, but with the cast and crew of the movie, also. Now, you’re Will Smith, you’ve made the decision to stand by your wife and forgive her sleeping with another man, almost having the acceptance because she was facing her own demons. I do have my opinion on Jada and what damage she may be causing to Will, but in this instance, you have to take it at face value that he chose to forgive and move on, so we should to. You get to a point when Jada opens up about her autoimmune disease that results in Alopecia, and in her darkest moments dealing with her hair loss, she had suicidal thoughts and intentions, but managed to pluck up the courage to eventually embrace the situation and use it as fuel to encourage other sufferers of the disease. It’s important to remember that it goes much further than just simple vanity. As a husband myself, and being married to a woman that suffers with mental health, namely Agoraphobia, I’ve witnessed the lows that nobody else sees, I’ve witnessed the brave face that everybody else thinks is natural, and I’ve also seen the small innocuous comments, that the majority would brush off, bring her entire world crashing down faster than what seems imaginable. But it happens. Now, put yourself in the shoes of Will, sweeping the awards season, a favourite to achieve his first Oscar, an award he’s been openly chasing for two decades since his first nomination. You’re on top of the world, embracing the moment. This is the best your career could ever be, the pinnacle. Someone then makes a joke in poor taste, about the women you love, on what’s supposed to be the biggest night of your career, and you glance over to your wife and she isn’t impressed. I believe Will unlocked some inner demons he’d buried writing WILL, I believe he’s reeling from being humiliated about the ‘Entanglement’, I believe he’s bitten his tongue on many occasion when the names of his wife and children got dragged through the dirt in front of millions. In that moment, I believe Will thought, it doesn’t matter what I do in my career, I’ll always be that scared little boy that didn’t stop his Mother from getting beat. And he said, no more. As a side note, it’s important to understand what triggers are when it comes to mental health, and what you’re husband may know will be damaging to you, even though it seemed an innocent off the cuff comment. I’m sure Chris Rock was unaware, and Will could have handled in a more calm and well matured manner than resorting to violence, especially as it’s completely overshadowed what was a richly deserved and overdue Oscar victory for what was a phenomenal performance. I congratulate Will on his Oscar win, and I really hope if he is struggling with his life and is overwhelmed by what’s being asked of him, or what he feels is being asked of him, that he seeks the help to recover and get back to being himself. It was difficult to watch someone I’ve admired for so long hit rock bottom on the same night he reached his highest point, but it was also a stark reminder that we expect superhuman actions out of people who are just as human as the people they entertain. Sorry it dragged on LOL
    4 points
  3. Honestly, as much as i hate the situation, the memes are pretty funny. But yeah, the media need to take it easy now, they are interviewing every celebrity about it to try and get another headline. I'm disappointed in some celebrity takes on it. Amy schumer said it was really upsetting to see Will slap Chris Rock, then ive seen another story saying one of her jokes about the Alec Baldwin shooting accident wasn't allowed. Why does she think a joke about someone getting killed can be ok? Anyway, people in glass houses shouldn't throw stones. Will made a mistake, we all make mistakes, let it go.
    3 points
  4. I agree with a lot of opinions here. I don't think Will is doing good mentally. It was like a bi-polar moment for him. He's seen laughing at the joke to then slapping Chris and shouting at him. Next he gets the win and then cries and says something that he's a "vessel of love" and "love makes you do crazy things". Dude - you just slapped the host of the show because Jada wasn't having it. Listen, I get defending your wife but that was such an instant response to Jada. It was uncalled for. The joke wasn't even that bad. It's comedy. So now if we go to comedy shows and don't like a joke we can slap the comedian? It's bizarre. I get that it's an isolated incident but I think it was trigger by some deep wounds and toxicity in his life. He needs some help and healing. I haven't read the book but it seems like their are some deep rooted issues. We're obviously all people on the outside watching but part of me thinks their marriage has run it's course. He was humiliated on the RTT with Jada where she justified her actions in front of the world to make a private matter turn into public display of marriage therapy in which she profited off of it. She had an affair with their son's friend. That's crazy. So because the traditional definition of marriage doesn't apply to their "open marriage" makes what she did okay? And now they're going to have another episode that they're going to profit from from all the views. I could do without the pomp and circumstance. Honestly, I'm just turned off by Will and have been for a few years now. Maybe at his core he's still the guy we all grew up loving from JJFP, FPOBA to the early 2000s but he doesn't have the same appeal to me. He's a business and a brand and the one thing I want from him - he doesn't sell anymore - which is music. I'm not into Will Smith the character, the box office star and hollywood elite. He's just not relatable. I feel the same way about Dwayne "The Rock" Johnson too. I dont care and never cared about: his movies his marriage and how open it is his kids his snapchat his instagram his book (well maybe some parts of it) bel-air reboot hollywood life his politics his youtube channel his motivation advice his workout routine selling me products (bel-air merch, JUST water...etc) ...etc Anything with music - count me in.
    3 points
  5. JumpinJack AJ

    New Music

    Yeah, I want new music to be a tightly contained project. I'm not saying his family isn't musically talented. Obviously they are, but I have no desire to hear them on a new album.
    2 points
  6. Remix I made when I was back in High School. Sampled James Brown
    2 points
  7. Lerkot

    New Music

    Indeed he should make some new music but I prefer if he leaves his weird family out of it and go play with Jeff instead.
    2 points
  8. I think the reason for this is that Will's actions are directly related to the Oscars. They want to save face. The dealings of those other people, while vile and long term, aren't directly related to the Oscars. No one is associating their behavior with the Oscars like they are Will's. That's just my guess at reasoning.
    2 points
  9. He's definitely got some great content, it would also be a great way for him to vent. Everyone is talking about him right now (MIB was playing in my local supermarket) so i think people would be more interested in what he has to say right now. Its the whole, no publicity is bad publicity thing. It would be great for him to spend time with Jeff, JL and Charlie etc. From the book, those guys seem to of always been such a positive impact on his life. He was like his old self when he did that zoom thing with them in lockdown.
    2 points
  10. Jim, I get everything you are saying and I think a lot of people feel the same way. I think it is worth getting the audiobook of Will though - the first 10 chapters are all about the formation and success of JJFP and a lot of stuff we never knew about - I think as a music fan you would really enjoy that section of the book at least. Behind the scenes of summertime - the making of And in this corner etc, the return with Men In Black.
    2 points
  11. maybe jjfp should make a song called "mr. nice guy 2022" and have jada sing the hook haha
    2 points
  12. Dave Nicoll

    Will's Book

    Heading to London soon to make sure we get there in plenty of time for the show. Will is already in London and Jeff has confirmed he is on his way. Should be a great show! I'll get some pictures and upload them on here :-)
    2 points
  13. Rest in Peace to Super Producer/Composer Carl "Chucky"Thompson, I used to play keys when I was in middle school and I think that it was his keys and lush arrangements that set him apart from the rest of "The Hitmen" on the scene in the late 90s. It was not only lush, it was live instrumentation, intricate background vocals, and literally this man helped to create "MY LIFE" (Mary J. Blige), timeless hits for The Notorious B.I.G. , introduced amazing new artists like: NONCHALANT, FRANKIE, EMILY KING and others. His music moved me then, and made me wanna take songwriting seriously. I'll miss this brother and praying peace for his remaining family.
    2 points
  14. Big Willie

    Will in Martin

    This is the first I’ve known about this… https://fb.watch/cilxoIPARO/ Will appears as himself right at the end of the episode during the birthday messages for Martin.
    1 point
  15. JumpinJack AJ

    Will in Martin

    Wow, I never saw this either. I watched Martin religiously, until the third or fourth season. This must have aired during the season where I started missing episodes.
    1 point
  16. https://blackamericaweb.com/2022/04/14/sony-bad-boys-film-believed-not-successful-black-lead-actors/?fbclid=IwAR3Rf9apgjkmCycUMColWcEuX74iHbNmK3OWeEWAZqR-21Fgbmj8QQlpv3c ‘Bad Boys’ Director Says Sony “Had No Faith” In The Film’s Success With Two Black Stars Keenan "HIGz" Higgins Even though Will Smith is going through a career crisis of sorts for infamously slapping fellow veteran actor Chris Rock at this year’s Academy Awards, there’s no denying his existing roster of hit leading roles in Hollywood. For many, the standout of those is his third-ever feature film, Bad Boys, which co-stars comedic legend Martin Lawrence. Over 25 years and two successful sequels later, with a fourth currently in pre-production, director Michael Bay says the $840 million franchise’s longtime distributor Sony Pictures originally didn’t think it would even be a success with two Black actors in the lead roles. While promoting his new film Ambulance, Bay spoke to Entertainment Weekly briefly about his directorial debut with Bad Boys. He was asked about his now-signature “hero shot” that dramatically circles the characters at a prominent climax in the movie. Bay said Bad Boys is where it started, and the inspiration was fueled by Sony’s doubt and disrespect for them during principal photography. “Sony didn’t believe in the movie, because two Black actors don’t sell overseas,” he said of their apprehensions, going to add, “And they shut me down, literally. They shut the power off. That’s how rude they were on this movie.” Take a look below at how one shot and a determination to prove Sony wrong led Michael Bay to success with Bad Boys and one of the most imitated cinematic scenes in action film history, via EW: “So I remember we’re driving our van. The line producer, he didn’t like me. I don’t think he liked anybody. I said, ‘Stop the car! Stop the van.’ And he’s coming up to me, the line producer, saying, ‘What are you doing, Michael? We don’t have time for this.’ I’m like, ‘This is going to be the trailer shot.’ For some reason, I just came up with this shot as we’re driving. And I said, ‘Where’s the circle trolley? Get the circle trolley.’ And we made this round move and you guys rise up and it became a very famous shot. People try to imitate it, but it was a seminal moment. ‘Bad Boys’ literally changed the game on Black actors. It’s the first movie that really traveled overseas.” As we now know, Bad Boys would go on to make $141.4 million at the box office on a $19 million budget and solidify both Smith and Lawrence as certified Black leading males in Hollywood. We bet Sony is glad they didn’t go with their initial bias!
    1 point
  17. Michael Bay would work with Will Smith again. https://movieweb.com/michael-bay-would-work-will-smith-again/?utm_source=MW-FB-P&utm_medium=Social-Distribution&utm_campaign=MW-FB-P&fbclid=IwAR1ukrtZFX8Cxt-WFRsG_Ef15KC_nOBP_tdr4AmsZOys8B0tQiWxlgV9N-E
    1 point
  18. Ale

    Jada/Fam/Misc

    Camila Cabello: Psychofreak (Live) ft. WILLOW - SNL
    1 point
  19. I looked at twitter to see what peoples thoughts are on it. And most people are saying it’s unfair he’s been banned yet they haven’t banned people like Roman Polanski, Woody Allen and Harvey Weinstein. And they have a fair point. One person even wrote Will got a worse punishment than the people that stormed the capitol lol.
    1 point
  20. Meanwhile Chris Rock will be back next year with a very funny monologue about Bruce Willis...
    1 point
  21. The punishment could have been worse. He gets to keep his Oscar (for what it’s worth, I doubt he or movie studios will ever use it to promote a new movie) and he’s still in a position to win another one. I hope people can move forward now. I don’t know if he still has to do the Red Table Talk. Maybe work on yourself for now, try to find peace.
    1 point
  22. Yeah, do something that's fun. Something that we'll want to watch over and over again. Don't get me wrong, I love Ali and King Richard, but I watch them ever couple years. Movies like Bad Boys, Hitch, Men In Black, Enemy of the State, ID4, etc....I can watch them frequently. On another note, it would be kinda gangsta to put out a movie or two during this time that would result in him being nominated even if he can't be there. At the same, would will he have a prejudice against him for being nominated or winning because of all this?
    1 point
  23. Yoooo, this article is actually quite sad. It's the opinion of comedian Earthquake. It makes you think. I don't recall any actions from Jada in the past decade that I'd translate to real love and affection. If anyone should be mad at Will, it should be comedians, but Earthquake is showing nothing but love for Will and seems to be talking a lot of sense. https://blacksportsonline.com/2022/04/comedian-earthquake-says-jada-pinkett-doesnt-love-will-smith-has-done-nothing-to-protect-him-and-only-embarrasses-him/?fbclid=IwAR3fDXDP3OddOZCZeTC79U6LVzkuR10ownKglihxc8JNAXC8gu1PbKzrEf8 BSO ENTERTAINMENT Comedian Earthquake Says Jada Pinkett Doesn’t Love Will Smith, Has Done Nothing To Protect Him And Only Embarrasses Him By Samuel-Clement Comedian Earthquake has also shared his two cents on Will Smith slapping Chris Rock at the Oscars and according to him, Will Smith loves Jada but she, on the other hand, doesn’t love him. That’s sad! Earthquake says Jada Pinkett should have stopped Will Smith from walking up the stage to slap Chris Rock for joking about a woman who doesn’t love him as he does via Yahoo Entertainment; Can you find any? Flip to the next page to watch the interview where he tells Smith he needs to either move on or accept Jada for who she is.
    1 point
  24. Oh, wow. This is definitely not a polished and presentable moment. There are a lot of memes, YouTube videos, and articles coming out that are focusing on Jada in the second phase of all this. I don't want to pin the negativity on her, because none of us know her personally. The media likes to speak negatively about strong women. Especially strong, black women. They jump to conclusions about women who don't try to be "America's sweetheart". It's worth pointing out that none of those who know her personally are saying bad things about her, at least not that I've seen. I remember watching an entertainment show back when Bad Boys first came out. The media's angle on Will and Jada showing that they were together was taking the angle that she was the "bad girl" that seemed a misfit for him. Then they turned into a power couple and everyone loved them. It seems like this "redefining" of their relationship is accommodating Jada, where as much of their relationship before this was accommodating Will. Ultimately everyone should be happy. If that's them, good. If it's not and this "redefining" an upgrade for both of them, it's time to take steps where they can be happy and completely themselves.
    1 point
  25. I don't like to say much as I'm just an outsider looking in, but that doesn't look like a healthy relationship at all. Will looks completely broken and Jada comes off as really abusive in that clip.
    1 point
  26. Another reason why this is shocking to a lot of people is because for decades Will's been known as this super friendly nice guy. So for him to do something like this is very out of character for him.
    1 point
  27. The idea of him being canceled is laughable. Let's be honest, what artists have truly been canceled. Some of them have taken a hit in their status, but virtually no one has been completely pushed out of the limelight. The reason this is so big is because Will is one of the biggest entertainers in the world and he fell hard one on of the biggest stages in the world. There are those with an emotional connection to it and those simply trying to ride the coattails of it. We know Will's character. Most entertainers are condemning the slap while clarifying that they have no ill will for him because we all know his true character.
    1 point
  28. fan 4ever

    Will Smith

    So you joined this board just to let us know that you will never watch his movies again?
    1 point
  29. I didn't even watch the Oscars and recently the grammys i haven't watched an award show in years. and then i go twitter and see all kinds of post and memes about what happened and i'm just Damn. what the heck happened? What's going on with Will? I'm definitely in the camp that you aint just going to make a disrespectful joke about a man's wife and he's just going to smile about it slapping Chris on live tv wasn't a good move clearly he could have talked to him of camera or something. but i hate how everything feels against Will now.
    1 point
  30. yes chris rock is not innocent in this, the joke was tasteless, they both need to take responsibility for their actions, i believe cooler heads will prevail, will smith and chris rock ain't 20 no more their grown veterans over 50 things will cool down
    1 point
  31. i'm hoping that he teams up with jeff and does a code red/willenium project in philly for the streets and get back at all; the critics, to me will's like hammer, he's harder than 99% of the fake gangsta rappers, go for eminem's crown will and go diamond with some hard heat
    1 point
  32. It's expected that within a week of an unusual event like this, Will's projects would be scrutinized by some. Movies experience various delays all the time. I don't expect anything to really change. A lot of movies take a year to come out. A year from now nobody is going to be shocked by this and the dust will have settle. I expect Will's reputation and position will mostly be restored. It's all business and media play at the moment.
    1 point
  33. I'm excited they have 40 pages of the script done - which probably leaves about 20 to go. I'm just not sure we need a Bad Boys 4 tho? - I think Bad Boys 4 life kind of wrapped up the series for me - I'd rather it end on a high.
    1 point
  34. People love you one day and turn on you the next. There are also many just waiting for you to fall to pounce on you like a tiger on a prey. I hope he is able to recover from all of this.
    1 point
  35. I think Will needs to get help. And I don't think going public (Whether it's Red Table Talk or some other media outlet) is the answer. I think he needs to work on himself and get help privately. I don't think he's in the right state of mind to be going in front of cameras right now.
    1 point
  36. The Academy just released a statement: The fact that Will was asked to leave and refused is very bad. I have a feeling he is going to be expelled from the Academy and this could signal the end of Will's movie career. How many people in Hollywood would want to work with him now?
    1 point
  37. Don’t know what to think about this. I’m not surprised they are doing a Red Table talk about it, kinda saw it coming. I wonder how it will play out. The only way this could really work is if they invited Chris Rock, sit down and have a openminded conversation. But then again, is it really necessary to do that publicly? Maybe they should handle it in private. But I guess that’s what society has come to.
    1 point
  38. Jada using Will's mental breakdown for some views on her red table talk I find extremely unsavoury. Wasn't the entanglement episode of that enough humiliation for Will? And now she is going to do it again with more of her psycho-babble? Not happy about this at all. Will get away from that toxicity and get back to being yourself.
    1 point
  39. I've been saying for years that he should win an Oscar just to get it out of his system and return to music. I really hoped he would win one for King Richard. After what happened I doubt he is going to do some new music. I really think he will lay low for a bit.
    1 point
  40. I dunno, maybe he should go into something slightly calmer... Watercolor painting maybe?
    1 point
  41. Let us now move on to things that actually matter in our own lives.
    1 point
  42. Check out this new interview! Audio only, starting at the 29 minute mark:
    1 point
  43. Keep in mind, I've often heard Will refer to individual songs or singles as "records"...so if you add up all his single and album sales, billboard charts, etc, he's probably around there.
    1 point
  44. Hero1

    Will's Book

    My thoughts on the first 9 chapters: https://open.spotify.com/episode/7lVMG8BZmzhqKyWGEaxQk3?si=aspejnXGTfa4wkuSrKNwNw&context=spotify%3Ashow%3A3D4hyMgdkz9aCpMIuQbUzs
    1 point
  45. GQ - Introducing the Real Will Smith
    1 point
  46. Great! I just subscribed!
    1 point
  47. This is one of the great discoveries I ever made. One of Jeff's best mixtapes.
    1 point
  48. KDiz

    Will's Book

    Let's hope he is straight with everything, and plenty of stories from 85 - 2000 hopefully. This is KevTastic BTW, just trialling the sign up process again for Tim
    1 point
  49. Nice man.. I love Everlast - there's something about his delivery that really hits hard.
    1 point
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