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  1. Jazzy Julie

    Will Smith

    That reminds me. I need to make an account with the lil Wayne forum to tell them all his music sucks.
    4 points
  2. I took a minute to process the incident and the night in general before posting on here, it hit home for personal reasons, that I’ll explain, and it also took me a while to try and understand what developed and why. After deliberation, obviously violence is never the answer. It’s inexcusable, but, it’s also understandable based on what has been revealed to us in recent months and years. I saw a broken man, at his breaking point, that’s lived pretty much flawlessly over nearly four decades in the public eye. After reading WILL, it opened my eyes to that lack of acceptance Will has always had, and his strive to ‘put right’ what he got wrong as a kid. Namely, his inaction when his father would abuse his mother, both physically and mentally. I believe this played a part in the spur of the moment decision to act when he felt his wife was attacked. Another thing that came to mind is his obsession to not fail, think back to when Sheree divorced Will, and he refused because ‘I don’t get divorced’. He was willing to stay in a marriage he wasn’t happy in because of his commitment to the decision he made. Fast forward to the ‘Entanglement’ and we have a carbon copy of the fight to save his marriage, that got turned into memes and internet trends, namely of Will crying when emotional speaking of his wife’s affair with someone he’d brought into his home to help. I also believe Will becomes so engrossed in roles that he wants to embody what Richard Williams stands for in terms of defence towards his wife and children, and with them all being women, it’s overlapped into Wills personal life. Not just with Jada and his kids, but with the cast and crew of the movie, also. Now, you’re Will Smith, you’ve made the decision to stand by your wife and forgive her sleeping with another man, almost having the acceptance because she was facing her own demons. I do have my opinion on Jada and what damage she may be causing to Will, but in this instance, you have to take it at face value that he chose to forgive and move on, so we should to. You get to a point when Jada opens up about her autoimmune disease that results in Alopecia, and in her darkest moments dealing with her hair loss, she had suicidal thoughts and intentions, but managed to pluck up the courage to eventually embrace the situation and use it as fuel to encourage other sufferers of the disease. It’s important to remember that it goes much further than just simple vanity. As a husband myself, and being married to a woman that suffers with mental health, namely Agoraphobia, I’ve witnessed the lows that nobody else sees, I’ve witnessed the brave face that everybody else thinks is natural, and I’ve also seen the small innocuous comments, that the majority would brush off, bring her entire world crashing down faster than what seems imaginable. But it happens. Now, put yourself in the shoes of Will, sweeping the awards season, a favourite to achieve his first Oscar, an award he’s been openly chasing for two decades since his first nomination. You’re on top of the world, embracing the moment. This is the best your career could ever be, the pinnacle. Someone then makes a joke in poor taste, about the women you love, on what’s supposed to be the biggest night of your career, and you glance over to your wife and she isn’t impressed. I believe Will unlocked some inner demons he’d buried writing WILL, I believe he’s reeling from being humiliated about the ‘Entanglement’, I believe he’s bitten his tongue on many occasion when the names of his wife and children got dragged through the dirt in front of millions. In that moment, I believe Will thought, it doesn’t matter what I do in my career, I’ll always be that scared little boy that didn’t stop his Mother from getting beat. And he said, no more. As a side note, it’s important to understand what triggers are when it comes to mental health, and what you’re husband may know will be damaging to you, even though it seemed an innocent off the cuff comment. I’m sure Chris Rock was unaware, and Will could have handled in a more calm and well matured manner than resorting to violence, especially as it’s completely overshadowed what was a richly deserved and overdue Oscar victory for what was a phenomenal performance. I congratulate Will on his Oscar win, and I really hope if he is struggling with his life and is overwhelmed by what’s being asked of him, or what he feels is being asked of him, that he seeks the help to recover and get back to being himself. It was difficult to watch someone I’ve admired for so long hit rock bottom on the same night he reached his highest point, but it was also a stark reminder that we expect superhuman actions out of people who are just as human as the people they entertain. Sorry it dragged on LOL
    4 points
  3. Wills Instagram post is great. Using comedy to test the water. Glad to see 99% positive comments, fans telling him they love him and come back. Great to see. Hopefully he feels comfortable easing back into the public eye now.
    3 points
  4. Honestly, as much as i hate the situation, the memes are pretty funny. But yeah, the media need to take it easy now, they are interviewing every celebrity about it to try and get another headline. I'm disappointed in some celebrity takes on it. Amy schumer said it was really upsetting to see Will slap Chris Rock, then ive seen another story saying one of her jokes about the Alec Baldwin shooting accident wasn't allowed. Why does she think a joke about someone getting killed can be ok? Anyway, people in glass houses shouldn't throw stones. Will made a mistake, we all make mistakes, let it go.
    3 points
  5. I agree with a lot of opinions here. I don't think Will is doing good mentally. It was like a bi-polar moment for him. He's seen laughing at the joke to then slapping Chris and shouting at him. Next he gets the win and then cries and says something that he's a "vessel of love" and "love makes you do crazy things". Dude - you just slapped the host of the show because Jada wasn't having it. Listen, I get defending your wife but that was such an instant response to Jada. It was uncalled for. The joke wasn't even that bad. It's comedy. So now if we go to comedy shows and don't like a joke we can slap the comedian? It's bizarre. I get that it's an isolated incident but I think it was trigger by some deep wounds and toxicity in his life. He needs some help and healing. I haven't read the book but it seems like their are some deep rooted issues. We're obviously all people on the outside watching but part of me thinks their marriage has run it's course. He was humiliated on the RTT with Jada where she justified her actions in front of the world to make a private matter turn into public display of marriage therapy in which she profited off of it. She had an affair with their son's friend. That's crazy. So because the traditional definition of marriage doesn't apply to their "open marriage" makes what she did okay? And now they're going to have another episode that they're going to profit from from all the views. I could do without the pomp and circumstance. Honestly, I'm just turned off by Will and have been for a few years now. Maybe at his core he's still the guy we all grew up loving from JJFP, FPOBA to the early 2000s but he doesn't have the same appeal to me. He's a business and a brand and the one thing I want from him - he doesn't sell anymore - which is music. I'm not into Will Smith the character, the box office star and hollywood elite. He's just not relatable. I feel the same way about Dwayne "The Rock" Johnson too. I dont care and never cared about: his movies his marriage and how open it is his kids his snapchat his instagram his book (well maybe some parts of it) bel-air reboot hollywood life his politics his youtube channel his motivation advice his workout routine selling me products (bel-air merch, JUST water...etc) ...etc Anything with music - count me in.
    3 points
  6. People would loose their **** if a solo deadshot movie was announced right now and oh man I would love to see it.
    2 points
  7. Chris Rock is just an a-hole.
    2 points
  8. Will at the wedding of one of BB4Life directors https://www.instagram.com/p/CguBRK4ImE1/?igshid=YmMyMTA2M2Y= https://www.instagram.com/p/Cgof49DMu6m/?igshid=YmMyMTA2M2Y= Great to see him smiling.
    2 points
  9. I’m glad he put this out. I’m looking forward to this being in the past and having things back to normal.
    2 points
  10. JumpinJack AJ

    New Music

    Yeah, I want new music to be a tightly contained project. I'm not saying his family isn't musically talented. Obviously they are, but I have no desire to hear them on a new album.
    2 points
  11. Remix I made when I was back in High School. Sampled James Brown
    2 points
  12. Lerkot

    New Music

    Indeed he should make some new music but I prefer if he leaves his weird family out of it and go play with Jeff instead.
    2 points
  13. I think the reason for this is that Will's actions are directly related to the Oscars. They want to save face. The dealings of those other people, while vile and long term, aren't directly related to the Oscars. No one is associating their behavior with the Oscars like they are Will's. That's just my guess at reasoning.
    2 points
  14. He's definitely got some great content, it would also be a great way for him to vent. Everyone is talking about him right now (MIB was playing in my local supermarket) so i think people would be more interested in what he has to say right now. Its the whole, no publicity is bad publicity thing. It would be great for him to spend time with Jeff, JL and Charlie etc. From the book, those guys seem to of always been such a positive impact on his life. He was like his old self when he did that zoom thing with them in lockdown.
    2 points
  15. Jim, I get everything you are saying and I think a lot of people feel the same way. I think it is worth getting the audiobook of Will though - the first 10 chapters are all about the formation and success of JJFP and a lot of stuff we never knew about - I think as a music fan you would really enjoy that section of the book at least. Behind the scenes of summertime - the making of And in this corner etc, the return with Men In Black.
    2 points
  16. maybe jjfp should make a song called "mr. nice guy 2022" and have jada sing the hook haha
    2 points
  17. Ale

    Jada/Fam/Misc

    Will spotted in Miami https://www.dailymail.co.uk/tvshowbiz/article-11625185/Will-Smith-good-spirits-Miami-Eddie-Murphy-jokes-Oscars-slap-Golden-Globes.html?ito=social-twitter_dailymailceleb
    1 point
  18. Oh cool. I really enjoyed these documentaries. Nice to see Will back at it. Meanwhile people aren’t liking a lot of Chris Rocks comments about the incident. He’s not coming across well.
    1 point
  19. The two gorillas have already more views then the mea culpa video
    1 point
  20. It's good to see him out, like he's not trying to stay in seclusion. I also like Will Packer chiming in. There will always be the petty type who are going to hold some kind of grudge against him, but I think the tide is turning and a lot of people are realizing that this is just something that happened.
    1 point
  21. He kind of looks like Deadshot.
    1 point
  22. ant1

    New Music

    Some music can be his way of venting and letting things out and i'm with AJ i don't really want to hear his family on anything maybe Jaden on a remix or something but Will should do some recording
    1 point
  23. He handled it well. He was genuine and remorseful. His charisma and spark was absent, which was probably appropriate. There may be more to say about this, but if he's ready, he should do something to remind people why they love(d) him.
    1 point
  24. I'm so happy he finally spoke. I was awaiting for this. Yesterday i actually revisited the audio book and played summertime for the first time this year. I'm very glad he posted this. It is time to heal and get back at it.
    1 point
  25. I do think popping up at one of Jeff's shows would be a good idea. That way he's in a position where he's supporting someone instead of making it about himself. Jeff is the one person who has been entirely in his corner when it comes to the press. I feel like that kind of crowd would be in his corner the most, too. Footage of it would get around, making it a special low key moment. From the start I've been saying music is the healthiest playing field for him right now.
    1 point
  26. People will always make jokes about the slap for the rest of his career unfortunately. People still joke about the entanglement, they still talk about the open marriage. It will always be there and someone will always make a comment. I don’t however think it’s the end of his career. He’s too liked and too talented for it to overshadow his whole personality. I think the next step for him is to go about his business. Do a new film, then as he’s promoting it, he will undoubtedly be asked and he can address it then. I don’t think he should do an interview just about it. It’s just bringing it all up again.
    1 point
  27. Yeah, I think it's appropriate that the BET award was given to him, but that he didn't attend and that it hasn't gotten much attention. Going back to Jeff's interview, I think he helps put things in perspective. I feel like he's the only one in Will's circle who's really doing the work while Will is laying low.
    1 point
  28. Great interviews with the cast!
    1 point
  29. I looked at twitter to see what peoples thoughts are on it. And most people are saying it’s unfair he’s been banned yet they haven’t banned people like Roman Polanski, Woody Allen and Harvey Weinstein. And they have a fair point. One person even wrote Will got a worse punishment than the people that stormed the capitol lol.
    1 point
  30. The punishment could have been worse. He gets to keep his Oscar (for what it’s worth, I doubt he or movie studios will ever use it to promote a new movie) and he’s still in a position to win another one. I hope people can move forward now. I don’t know if he still has to do the Red Table Talk. Maybe work on yourself for now, try to find peace.
    1 point
  31. It will be in everyone’s best interest to get this over with. After they make their decision it will be in the media for like a week. After that I hope the media will move on to something else. I wonder what they will decide. Maybe take away his Oscar?
    1 point
  32. I just read an article saying he has been admitted to a rehab center due to the stress of the whole situation. https://www.marca.com/en/lifestyle/celebrities/2022/04/06/624db4dbe2704e5ea68b458d.html
    1 point
  33. As crazy as Loretta was, in light of everything recently, Will would've been better off with her instead of Jada.
    1 point
  34. The idea of him being canceled is laughable. Let's be honest, what artists have truly been canceled. Some of them have taken a hit in their status, but virtually no one has been completely pushed out of the limelight. The reason this is so big is because Will is one of the biggest entertainers in the world and he fell hard one on of the biggest stages in the world. There are those with an emotional connection to it and those simply trying to ride the coattails of it. We know Will's character. Most entertainers are condemning the slap while clarifying that they have no ill will for him because we all know his true character.
    1 point
  35. Hi guys! Been away for a while but obviously with what happened i want to see how the fam here feels, and to me, it's just, my heart hurts for Will right now. But i need to ask. In what world are you not allowed to stand up for yourself and your family when they get disrespected, from a joke that shouldn't have been made, You get angry and react and your the one who gets all the **** thrown at you. like Really! WTF! I hope and pray Will will be alright from this.
    1 point
  36. I hope Will understands that we're concerned
    1 point
  37. I dunno. With the way things have been I'm scared Will is gonna come out with a gangster rap album
    1 point
  38. I've kinda given up hope on music at this point. I'm sick of the half-ass attempts over the last few years with these weirdo songs. He does a song with DJ Khaled a few years ago and it's for the kids? I mean c'mon. Get Lit was another weird song. The best thing he did was that freestyle video on Youtube but of course that was like 1-2 minutes long and never released as a song. Oh and that Joyner remix that he jumped on. Will has such a team around him when it comes to video production and getting quick ad money off of Youtube clicks that I wish the same energy was there for music. I agree with AJ - nobody wants to hear new Will Smith with modern music production. If he's gonna return to music - he's gotta actually write and rap bars. Don't do it for record sales or awards - rap because it's who you really are (as opposed to being an actor and pretending to be a character) and you have plenty to say.
    1 point
  39. I think opinion is divided because people can't believe that Will Smith could do something like this. For decades he's been knowing as the fun, nice guy who's friendly with everyone. So I think that's the reason why people are trying to justify (Not that what was done can be justified) why Will did what he did.
    1 point
  40. I think Will needs to get help. And I don't think going public (Whether it's Red Table Talk or some other media outlet) is the answer. I think he needs to work on himself and get help privately. I don't think he's in the right state of mind to be going in front of cameras right now.
    1 point
  41. Might be coming a longer video on the topic. We're accustomed to everything happening within five minutes these days... for no good reason. If it is like Puff Daddy or Piff Diddy - or whatever his name is - says, that they made up, then the vultures (us and the media) should just go take a chill pill because Will and Chris really dont owe us anything... Will/Jada were hurt by words, Chris by a slap, for us it was harmless.
    1 point
  42. I dunno, maybe he should go into something slightly calmer... Watercolor painting maybe?
    1 point
  43. Firstly, hi everyone, sad we couldn't be meeting under better circumstances. I've been unsure what to think of this all day and I've been looking at everyone's opinions. Firstly i was really dissapointed for me to wake up at 6am and look at my phone to see if he'd won his first Oscar and it took me 5 mins to find out because it was so overshadowed with what he did. When i first saw the clip i didn't actually get Chris Rocks joke because im not familiar with GI Jane. As much as dislike Jada at the moment, that joke was uncalled for. I've certainly heard worse but we don't know what shes been through and if Will has seen her really upset with the struggle with her hair. Will should not of slapped Chris though, especially live on television at the biggest award show in the world. These days you can get cancelled for that kind of crap, i'm surprised its actually 50/50 on peoples thoughts on him. The main thing i feel about this, i'm worried for Will. It mostly started seeing him in tears on the red table talk when they spoke about entanglement, that had to be hard. The public humiliation hes had since must be rough, especially when hes spent his career being so loved. Then he clearly had issues when i read his book, it just goes to show peoples lives aren't as perfect as they look. I think this was the straw that broke the camels back and i really hope he isnt stripped of his oscar over this. And i hope he gets help for his mental health, this reminds me of Britney shaving her head kind of moment. Its out of character for him to break his "Mr Fluffy" persona so publicly. Anyway, congratulations to him i suppose, King Richard was a great film.
    1 point
  44. "bob" here (haven't gone by that in a long, long time) - couldn't figure out my password from when I joined as a 17/18 year old, now as a 34 married father of one (with another on the way).... I will say I'm heartened by the statements above - I think anyone wouldn't be surprised if a fan forum found a way to justify Will's actions, but I see a lot of wisdom in Hero1 and AJ's comments. (What else would I expect!) I was just gutted by Will's actions. If he really wanted to make an impression on the right note, for the right reason, he would have left after that joke. It's easy for me to say "Oh, just let it go, and move on." His absence for an acceptance speech would have spoke louder than any sound of a smack or yelling obscenities from the crowd afterwards. He should have learned from his younger self when he didn't do the grammy's and won the first ever rap grammy. Violence, demonstrations of might, belief you can take things into your own hands - all are hallmarks of lesser men, not representations of true honor.
    1 point
  45. I haven’t been online here in ages and just had to come and share my feelings. I am really shocked and disappointed of his behavior and think that this is unacceptable. He didn’t even apologize to Chris at his speech. As a long time JJFP fan I must say, that the Fresh Prince I used to like and watch and listen to is no more. Will totally lost his sense of responsibility as an artist.. what it means to be a role model. He shouldn’t have made his private life so public in the first place. All that red table talk and stuff totally screwed him up. The showbiz is not the place to elaborate and therapy your life. my respect for him is on a low point and honestly he is more and more becoming an example on how NOT to do things in life. What a shame. I won’t support him anymore and will stick with his old stuff. But nonetheless I hope he’ll get out of this mess…
    1 point
  46. Keep in mind, I've often heard Will refer to individual songs or singles as "records"...so if you add up all his single and album sales, billboard charts, etc, he's probably around there.
    1 point
  47. These posts make my heart happy. Oh, 90's nostalgia!
    1 point
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