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Pretty Girls is Pretty Awful
JumpinJack AJ and 2 others reacted to Stoichennium for a topic
The song is getting a better reaction than what I thought! I've even had a friend who's not particularly a Will fan message me saying, "Will's new track is a banger!" I don't think that's happened since Switch! It might not be what we were hoping for or expected but maybe this gets more people listening to Will's new music, which can only be a good thing! All I know is, I got to see Will live this week in London, he signed my Willennium vinyl, I'm seeing him again in August and he's consistently releasing new music. So I'm not going to take this for granted. In 10 years, Will will be in his mid 60s and none of this will be happening. I'm just going to enjoy that he's still making music while I can!3 points -
The new song is cool and I’m glad Will is having fun with the music again, but I was thinking of something…he constantly talks about wanting to be respected as an artist. He wants his name in the same breath as Dre, Jay, Rakim, LL, Slick Rick, etc…but if he wants that we need some real hip hop. He needs to dig back deep to his roots. We know he’s capable of spitting bars. We need more tracks like Tantrum. These days it’s hard to sell and it’s even harder to get a hit like Jiggy…I feel like that’s kinda what he’s shooting for with a summer anthem like this but at the end of the day he has a chance to really do something to cement his name in hip hop. Not that that isn’t already in stone, but to really show out and prove himself in a rap game that’s currently lacking. You look at Nas, LL, Dre, Snoop…these old heads are still spittin and still getting respect. I really hope these next 2 seasons have some real stuff. Just my two cents. If this is what he wants and he’s just having fun then I support it.3 points
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fan 4ever and one other reacted to Stoichennium for a topic
An account with two posts and a personal attack. I've no reason to lie. What's happening to this board? I've been a member over 20 years and suddenly the board is littered with new accounts focused on posting negative comments. I don't like it.2 points -
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Jazzy Julie and one other reacted to eagle1 for a topic
Y’all need to lighten up. (And I’m not including the random bots that just ascended upon us)2 points -
I've collated all the videos from the performance here: https://www.jazzyjefffreshprince.com/2025/06/15/will-smith-jazzy-jeff-perform-for-80000-at-wembley-stadium-in-london/1 point
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Nice words from Will to Jeff before the 'Boom! Shake The Room' performance1 point
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The Capital Radio summerball was one of the best JJFP performances of all time. The 90;000 Wembley crowd doing all the crowd response, Jeff’s scratches back on all the tracks. Just Will and Jeff being together after 40 years; it was really sweet. Give Jeff & Will get their flowers - they are getting older so this may be the last year they perform. Glad they did that! Amazing!1 point
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Will Smith getting ready to tour
eagle1 reacted to Jazzy Julie for a topic
Justice for pretty girls! Music is a funny thing. Thought it was cheesy and silly when I first heard it. But there was something about it that made me keep wanting to play it over and over. Sometimes a song just hits you right and seeing I live just cemented it for me. I love it! I hope everyone else gets to enjoy it, both the fans here and the public. Imagine if it did become a hit.1 point -
Will Smith getting ready to tour
eagle1 reacted to Jazzy Julie for a topic
That performance was incredible! The crowd was a bit dead from the previous 2 artists. But you can tell Will and Jeff have been doing this a long time. Will got them going and cheering. Jeff was on fire, great hearing all his scratches on Wills tracks. Even got involved in the performance coming out from his decs. Pretty girls sounded good live. It fit in well with the rest of the set. I like the song even more now. Cant believe they are 56 and 60 coming out with more energy than the younger artists before them.1 point -
I screen recorded it. The file was over 3GB so I had to compress it a bit. Here’s a download link. https://we.tl/t-64fCkpRcHk1 point
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eagle1 reacted to Jazzy Julie for a topic
Not sure what’s going on with new people joining and leaving negative comments but I guess that’s the internet these days. It definitely has mixed reviews, a lot of hate but lots of comments enjoying it too. Nearly half million views on YouTube in 3 days. Ive honestly been playing the song none stop all weekend. I don’t want it to appear that I have bad taste in music here haha, but there’s something about it that’s so enjoyable to me. It’s a shame that I feel like I’m enjoying it by myself. It’s like stoichennium said, he’s not gonna be doing this in 10 years. In fact I never thought I’d see him do this in 2025. Embrace it. He’s not gonna make another BWS at his age. But we’ve got a tour and 3 albums. Your hip hop stuff is coming. That anxiety rhyme will be on the album.1 point -
I’m seeing a lot of positive reactions about this song as well. Had some friends texting me saying they liked it, others saying they don’t. It is a mixed bag. So far the video has 455k views on YouTube. Let’s see where this goes. All the song needs is one or two radio stations putting it on their playlist.1 point
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I’m honestly not so sure he cares about that anymore. At least that’s the vibe I get from his interviews. He’s releasing the music for himself, not to please the fans or to try and cement his legacy. He’s just saying what he wants to say, and honestly I’m happy that includes some silly songs like this.1 point
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This is spot on for me. I’m honestly surprised how many people are so negative on this considering how he used to release goofy music with JJ all the time. And no I don’t think all of those were great either, some were downright absurd like “she bit me”. But they don’t all need to be serious or deep. I think this one is fun and I honestly haven’t been seeing any more negatively in the comments than any of his other releases. I dunno I’d take this over “get lit” any damn day of the week. Don’t listen to the haters man, I’m with you. So far I’ve also seen positive feedback about it. Been waiting so long for Will to get back into music, and I was hoping he would also release some fun tracks. I also like this better than “first love” and maybe even “beautiful scars” Ridiculous comment1 point
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Amazing you got that signed. Seeing him in Brixton in August!1 point
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Pretty Girls is Pretty Awful
eagle1 reacted to Stoichennium for a topic
No, a negative comment is calling me a lier. Anyway, I'm not debating with a faceless person I don't know and will never meet. Enjoy the board. It's been fun but I don't like where it's going. Have fun everyone and I hope you enjoy whatever Will does next! :)1 point -
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JumpinJack AJ reacted to Vipa for a topic
FWIW, the r/CrappyMusic sub on reddit has already gotten its hands on this. To be fair they hate Will Smith, but stuff like this isn't going to help...Like i said in another thread, Im glad he's having fun, but he's fumbling a great opportunity here. LL, Snoop, Busta, KRS...They all recently released some dope albums. Will can do that, but he just seems apprehensive to deviate from what's brought him success in the past. And what did it in 97 isn't going to do it in '25. Do what Kendrick and Jay allegedly told you, and just spit that real ****.1 point -
Here’s my take: What Die-Hard Will Smith Fans Are Really Hoping For… The biggest issue long-time fans like me have with Will Smith’s recent music isn’t just about the lyrics or delivery, it’s about the vibe. Lately, we’ve seen a nostalgic resurgence of old-school hip hop legends returning to the sound that made them great. LL Cool J, Ice Cube, Snoop, they’ve all dropped new music that pays homage to their roots. The production feels familiar, the flows feel old school, and it’s clear they’re not trying to chase trends, they’re owning their legacy. That’s what many of us hoped Will would do too. Instead, there’s a sense that he’s still trying to stay current. And while there’s nothing wrong with evolving, what’s missing from his newer material is the magic formula that made his music so iconic in the first place: a hooky chorus and Jeff’s beats. If you go back and listen to the four DJ Jazzy Jeff & The Fresh Prince albums, then Big Willie Style, and Willennium, there’s a consistent thread, disco and funk-inspired samples that gave the music bounce, soul, and fun, into a old school hip hop vibe. Think about it: “Men In Black” flipped Forget Me Nots “Gettin’ Jiggy Wit It” borrowed He’s the Greatest Dancer “Wild Wild West” leaned on I Wish by Stevie Wonder It’s that sampling style, rich, funky, and upbeat, that gave Will Smith’s music its joyful, timeless energy. DJ Jazzy Jeff’s production wasn’t just about laying down a beat, it was about crafting a full-on party in a song. This paired with Will’s playful, clean and charismatic delivery, meant the result was something truly unique in hip hop. That’s why the recent material feels off. Will isn’t lacking things to say, in fact, with everything he’s experienced personally and professionally, he has more stories than ever. But instead of channeling those stories through the style that made him a household name, he’s been trying to fit into the modern mold… and in the process, losing some of that original spark. For me, this trend started way back with Born To Reign, and with exception of Switch, Perhaps a few others, Lost and Found wasn’t that great either. 20 years on, and Wills really lost sense of what got him the first rap Grammy. Take Willennium, tracks like “Freakin’ It,” “Will 2k” and “So Fresh” were big, bold, and full of personality. The hooks stuck in your head for days. The beats were polished but still playful. That sound had identity, it was unmistakably him. What fans want, or at least, what I want, is a return to the chemistry that only Will and Jeff had. The back and forth energy, the jazzy cuts, the disco samples. Even if the subject matter is more mature now, the sound doesn’t have to lose its joy. There’s nothing wrong with growing older in hip hop. In fact, when you do it on your own terms, like so many of Will’s peers have, it only strengthens your legacy. And maybe, just maybe, it’s not too late for Will to give us one more album that feels like it was dug out of the vaults from the Homebase - Big Willie Style era. Because let’s be honest, no one else ever did that blend of fun, funky, clean hip hop quite like DJ Jazzy Jeff & The Fresh Prince. And if there’s one thing the fans would get jiggy with, it’s that.1 point
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I can see why y’all are hating on this song, but I’m enjoying it just fine…. It’s not serious, doesn’t need to be. I can imagine why it’s awkward for a 50+ year old man to be singing “I like pretty girls” but I guess I’m just not putting to much thought into it, it’s just pop.1 point
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Pretty Girls is Pretty Awful
JumpinJack AJ reacted to Hero1 for a topic
I don’t mind Will doing fun songs, I actually think it’s a good idea. But compare Getting Jiggy Wit It to this. There’s just no comparison. How bad Wills raps are is really disappointing. I feel like the stuff when he was going to make his comeback maybe 6 years ago was way better.1 point -
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eagle1 reacted to Jazzy Julie for a topic
It’s gonna be on itv on Sunday 22nd at 5.30pm if anyone in the UK is interested. Gotta wait a bit1 point -
Looking forward to that Wembley show! Him and Jeff together will be fire. I bet Jeff’s involvement will make the newer songs sound even better.1 point
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eagle1 reacted to Jazzy Julie for a topic
Ok I’m gonna lighten it up with a bit of positivity in here. It’s certainly far from my favourite of the new tracks but I don’t hate it like you guys. ok so it’s a bit corny and it does leave Will open to be made fun of. But what’s new there, he’s been made fun of since 1988. The lyrics aren’t great, however, not every song needs to be deep. I like the beat, it’s fun, silly and catchy. The video is a bit like his fresh Prince days. The song reminds me of”my humps” by the black eyed peas. People said it was cheesy but people loved it. On another positive note. Will and Jeff are playing Wembley this Sunday with capital fm, it’s one of the biggest radio stations in the UK. They played the song this morning for millions of listeners. I would have preferred one of his better songs but telling so many people he has an album out might get some more fans aware of BOATS.1 point -
This is gonna be my summer song this year. It sounds great in the car.1 point
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I think this was inspired by Coolio's I like Girls, the line where Will swears is very similar to Coolio's1 point
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JumpinJack AJ reacted to fan 4ever for a topic
You’re not really stating facts, you’re stating your opinion which is fine. I’m not gonna get into an argument about our different opinions, everyone is entitled to their own. Let’s get back on topic.1 point -
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JumpinJack AJ reacted to fan 4ever for a topic
You do come off hard with the negativity man. It’s always great to see new members join this board but when your first posts are like this it sends out the wrong vibe, you know? I respect your opinion, this song is not for everyone. I think it’s okay. He has done worse songs in my humble opinion. “I Can’t Stop”, “Willow Is A Player” and “First Love” come to mind. I guess he’s just having fun and doing his own thing. It just sucks for us, real hip hop heads, that he isn’t making the songs we would like him to do. I enjoyed his last album when it dropped but I don’t listen to a lot. We need Jeff to be more involved with the music and the tour. He makes the best songs when Jeff is involved!1 point -
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ANALF00034 reacted to DefCEM for a topic
I struggled very hard when i heard the song for the first time this morning. The first verse was kinda funny with the full house reference. I thought it was a nice word play. Then it got simpler and cornier with each new line. I cringed very hard on the vanilla chocolate part. I saw the video a few moments ago and in conjunction with the visuals it was more entertaining. But from an MC/lyricist point of view, its pure garbage and embarassing. He's literally proofing the world he cant write rhymes without any help. Or that he's just lazy with the pen, i dont know. I havent bought tickets to his concert yet, and i think its better invested in other events. For me it ended with Lost&Found and i really cant support whatever he's trying to do with his music or his career in general at all. I have also listened to LL's "The Force" album this morning and theres really no comparison. LL is on another level regarding lyricism, energy and production quality. Songs like this will probably generate some clicks and likes commercially, but he's putting his reputation as an MC (if he still got one) on the line with trash like that. PS: I agree with ANALF00034. I dont think he's pathetic, but i have also lost a lot of respect for Will. First he buried The Fresh Prince, then Big Willie and now he's on a egocentric, self absorbed path giving zero f's about anything. The result is **** music like this that probably only like his crew, family and friends.1 point -
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fan 4ever reacted to JumpinJack AJ for a topic
It's one thing to share an opinion. It's another to come here and act like a jerk toward other board members. You can be removed, if that's your agenda.1 point -
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Hero1 reacted to Stoichennium for a topic
Yep, this is going to get destroyed. And it's a total 180 from BOATS. I can only imagine the lack of sales and streams has pushed him into thinking he needs to be more commercial.1 point -
I get what he's trying to do. It's a song made for TikTok and social media. He's trying to stay relevant, he's riding trends. It doesn't appeal to the old skool Hip Hop heads like most of us. We're all hoping he will get back in the lab with Jeff but he's just having fun and trying things. I could see this blow up on TikTok and other social media. It's got a catchy hook and a fun beat. Lyrics are basic club rap, it's better than First Love in my opinion.1 point
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Will Smith at Kings Cross in London with Djagonline
Jazzy Julie reacted to Stoichennium for a topic
I was there! Right at the front. I only live a 25 minute walk from King's Cross Station, so I got there as soon as i heard about it. Oh, and Will signed my Willennium vinyl. Still can't believe it!1 point -
'Pretty Girls' Music Video tomorrow! https://www.instagram.com/p/DKz9foaykHI/1 point
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'Based on a True Story' - New Album drops March 28
Ale reacted to JumpinJack AJ for a topic
New Single! "Pretty Girls" drops this Friday, June 13th!1 point -
Pretty Girls is Pretty Awful
JumpinJack AJ reacted to eagle1 for a topic
If you aren’t a fan anymore why create a new account and spend your time to come here and hate on a guys personal life? do you really have nothing better to do? If you aren’t a fan anymore that’s totally fine and you’re right, but it just seems like a waste of yours and everyone’s time. also why in the world would you create a new account and call it analf00034?0 points