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Gunman Identified as University Student Bush, First Lady Visit School for Memorial Service By ADAM GELLER BLACKSBURG, Va. (April 17) -- The gunman suspected of carrying out the Virginia Tech massacre that left 33 people dead was described Tuesday as a sullen loner whose creative writing in English class was so disturbing that he was referred to the school's counseling service. News reports also said that he may have been taking medication for depression, that he was becoming increasingly violent and erratic, and that he left a note in his dorm in which he railed against "rich kids," "debauchery" and "deceitful charlatans" on campus. Cho Seung-Hui, a 23-year-old senior majoring in English, arrived in the United States as boy from South Korea in 1992 and was raised in suburban Washington, D.C., officials said. He was living on campus in a different dorm from the one where Monday's bloodbath began. Police and university officials offered no clues as to exactly what set him off on the deadliest shooting rampage in modern U.S. history. "He was a loner, and we're having difficulty finding information about him," school spokesman Larry Hincker said. On Tuesday afternoon, thousands of people gathered in the basketball arena, and when it filled up, thousands more filed into the football stadium, for a memorial service for the victims. President Bush and the first lady attended. Watch Video Virginia Tech President Charles Steger received a 30-second standing ovation, despite bitter complaints from parents and students that the university should have locked down the campus immediately after the first burst of gunfire. Steger expressed hope that "we will awaken from this horrible nightmare." "As you draw closer to your families in the coming days, I ask you to reach out to those who ache for sons and daughters who are never coming home," Bush said. A vast portrait of the victims began to emerge, among them: Christopher James Bishop, 35, who taught German at Virginia Tech and helped oversee an exchange program with a German university; Ryan "Stack" Clark, a 22-year-old student from Martinez, Ga., who was in the marching band and was working toward degrees in biology and English; Emily Jane Hilscher, a 19-year-old freshman from Woodville, Va., who was majoring in animal and poultry sciences and, naturally, loved animals; and Liviu Librescu, an Israeli engineering and math lecturer who was said to have protected his students' lives by blocking the doorway of his classroom from the approaching gunman. Meanwhile, a chilling portrait of the gunman as a misfit began to emerge. Professor Carolyn Rude, chairwoman of the university's English department, said she did not know Cho. But she said she spoke with Lucinda Roy, the department's director of creative writing, who had Cho in one of her classes and described him as "troubled." The Victims Below are photos of people confirmed dead in the Virginia Tech shooting spree. More photos will be added as they become available. "There was some concern about him," Rude said. "Sometimes, in creative writing, people reveal things and you never know if it's creative or if they're describing things, if they're imagining things or just how real it might be. But we're all alert to not ignore things like this." She said Cho was referred to the counseling service, but she said she did not know when, or what the outcome was. Rude refused to release any of his writings or his grades, citing privacy laws. The Chicago Tribune reported on its Web site that he left a note in his dorm room that included a rambling list of grievances. Citing unidentified sources, the Tribune said he had recently shown troubling signs, including setting a fire in a dorm room and stalking some women. ABC, citing law enforcement sources, reported that the note, several pages long, explains Cho's actions and says, "You caused me to do this." Investigators believe Cho at some point had been taking medication for depression, the Tribune reported. Classmates said that on the first day of an introduction to British literature class last year, the 30 or so English students went around and introduced themselves. When it was Cho's turn, he didn't speak. The professor looked at the sign-in sheet and, where everyone else had written their names, Cho had written a question mark. "Is your name, 'Question mark?'" classmate Julie Poole recalled the professor asking. The young man offered little response. April 16: A Day of Tragedy Cho spent much of that class sitting in the back of the room, wearing a hat and seldom participating. In a small department, Cho distinguished himself for being anonymous. "He didn't reach out to anyone. He never talked," Poole said. "We just really knew him as the question mark kid," Poole said. The rampage consisted of two attacks, more than two hours apart - first at a dormitory, where two people were killed, then inside a classroom building, where 31 people, including Cho, died after being locked inside, Virginia State Police said. Cho committed suicide; two handguns - a 9 mm and a .22-caliber - were found in the classroom building. One law enforcement official said Cho's backpack contained a receipt for a March purchase of a Glock 9 mm pistol. Cho held a green card, meaning he was a legal, permanent resident, federal officials said. That meant he was eligible to buy a handgun unless he had been convicted of a felony. Roanoke Firearms owner John Markell said his shop sold the Glock and a box of practice ammo to Cho 36 days ago for $571. "He was a nice, clean-cut college kid. We won't sell a gun if we have any idea at all that a purchase is suspicious," Markell said. Markell said it is not unusual for college kids to make purchases at his shop as long as they are old enough. "To find out the gun came from my shop is just terrible," Markell said. Investigators stopped short of saying Cho carried out both attacks. But ballistics tests show one gun was used in both, Virginia State Police said. And two law enforcement officials, speaking on condition of anonymity because the information had not been announced, said Cho's fingerprints were found on both guns. The serial numbers on the two weapons had been filed off, the officials said. Col. Steve Flaherty, superintendent of the Virginia State Police, said it was reasonable to assume that Cho was the shooter in both attacks but that the link was not yet definitive. "There's no evidence of any accomplice at either event, but we're exploring the possibility," he said. Officials said Cho graduated from Westfield High School in Chantilly, Va., in 2003. His family lived in an off-white, two-story townhouse in Centreville, Va. Two of those killed in the shooting rampage, Reema Samaha and Erin Peterson, graduated from Westfield High in 2006, school officials said. But there was no immediate word from authorities on whether Cho knew the two young women and singled them out. "He was very quiet, always by himself," neighbor Abdul Shash said. Shash said Cho spent a lot of his free time playing basketball and would not respond if someone greeted him. He described the family as quiet. South Korea expressed its condolences, and said it hoped that the tragedy would not "stir up racial prejudice or confrontation." "We are in shock beyond description," said Cho Byung-se, a Foreign Ministry official handling North American affairs. Classes were canceled for the rest of the week. Norris Hall, the classroom building, will be closed for the rest of the semester. Many students were leaving town quickly, lugging pillows, sleeping bags and backpacks down the sidewalks. Jessie Ferguson, 19, a freshman from Arlington, left Newman Hall and headed for her car with tears streaming down her red cheeks. "I'm still kind of shaky," she said. "I had to pump myself up just to kind of come out of the building. I was going to come out, but it took a little bit of 'OK, it's going to be all right. There's lots of cops around.'" Although she wanted to be with friends, she wanted her family more. "I just don't want to be on campus," she said. Until Monday, the deadliest shooting in modern U.S. history was in Killeen, Texas, in 1991, when George Hennard plowed his pickup truck into a Luby's Cafeteria and shot 23 people to death, then himself. Previously, the deadliest campus shooting in U.S. history was a rampage that took place in 1966 at the University of Texas at Austin, where Charles Whitman climbed the clock tower and opened fire with a rifle from the 28th-floor observation deck. He killed 16 people before he was shot to death by police. Cho Seung-Hui's Plays Posted Apr 17th 2007 12:53PM by AOL News Filed under: Crime, Virginia Tech Shooting AOL News has obtained two plays a classmate says were written by Cho Seung-Hui. Ian MacFarlane, the former classmate and current AOL employee, provided us with the plays. A note from Mr. MacFarlane and links to the works appear below. What happened yesterday: When I first heard about the multiple shootings at Virginia Tech yesterday, my first thought was about my friends, and my second thought was "I bet it was Seung Cho." Cho was in my playwriting class last fall, and nobody seemed to think much of him at first. He would sit by himself whenever possible, and didn't like talking to anyone. I don't think I've ever actually heard his voice before. He was just so quiet and kept to himself. Looking back, he fit the exact stereotype of what one would typically think of as a "school shooter" – a loner, obsessed with violence, and serious personal problems. Some of us in class tried to talk to him to be nice and get him out of his shell, but he refused talking to anyone. It was like he didn't want to be friends with anybody. One friend of mine tried to offer him some Halloween candy that she still had, but he slowly shook his head, refusing it. He just came to class every day and submitted his work on time, as I understand it. A major part of the playwriting class was peer reviews. We would write one-act plays and submit them to an online repository called Blackboard for everyone in the class to read and comment about in class the next day. Typically, the students give their opinions about the plays and suggest ways to make it better, the professor gives his insights, then asks the author to comment about the play in class. When we read Cho's plays, it was like something out of a nightmare. The plays had really twisted, macabre violence that used weapons I wouldn't have even thought of. Before Cho got to class that day, we students were talking to each other with serious worry about whether he could be a school shooter. I was even thinking of scenarios of what I would do in case he did come in with a gun, I was that freaked out about him. When the students gave reviews of his play in class, we were very careful with our words in case he decided to snap. Even the professor didn't pressure him to give closing comments. After hearing about the mass shootings, I sent one of my friends a Facebook message asking him if he knew anything about Seung Cho and if he could have been involved. He replied: "dude that's EXACTLY what I was thinking! No, I haven't heard anything, but seriously, that was the first thing I thought when I heard he was Asian." While I "knew" Cho, I always wished there was something I could do for him, but I couldn't think of anything. As far as notifying authorities, there isn't (to my knowledge) any system set up that lets people say "Hey! This guy has some issues! Maybe you should look into this guy!" If there were, I definitely would have tried to get the kid some help. I think that could have had a good chance of averting yesterday's tragedy more than anything. While I was hesitant at first to release these plays (because I didn't know if there are laws against it), I had to put myself in the shoes of the average person researching this situation. I'd want to know everything I could about the killer to figure out what could drive a person to do something like this and hopefully prevent it in the future. Also, I hope this might help people start caring about others more no matter how weird they might seem, because if this was some kind of cry for attention, then he should have gotten it a long time ago. As far as the victims go, as I was heading to bed last night, I heard that my good friend Stack (Ryan Clark) was one of the first confirmed dead. I didn't want to believe that I'd never get to talk to him again, and all I could think about was how much I could tell him how much his friendship meant to me. During my junior year, Ryan, another friend and I used to get breakfast on Tuesdays and Thursdays at Shultz Dining Hall, one of the cafeterias on campus, and it was always the highlight of my day. He could talk forever it seemed and always made us laugh. He was a good friend, not just to me, but to a lot of people, and I'll miss him a lot. --------------------------- I've read 2 of his plays. Keep in mind i've done acting for years, and i can say that he actually seems like when it comes 2 writing, he could have amounted 2 something. However, reading WHAT he wrote and the subject matter is demented. He comes off as a very immature, ignorant, and hateful person. Schools and work places need 2 have some kinda policy for disturbed people like this.

P!NK - Stop Falling Can't Take Me Home (2000)

Gunman Identified as University Student Bush, First Lady to Visit School for Convocation By ADAM GELLER BLACKSBURG, Va. (April 17) -- A Virginia Tech senior from South Korea was behind the massacre of at least 30 people locked inside a campus building in the deadliest shooting rampage in modern U.S. history, the university said Tuesday. Ballistics tests also show that one of the guns inside that building was used in another shooting two hours earlier, at a dorm, Virginia State Police said. Police identified the shooter as Cho Seung-Hui, 23, a senior from South Korea who was in the English department at Virginia Tech and lived on campus. "It's certainly reasonable to assume that Cho was the shooter in both cases," but authorities haven't made the link for sure, said Col. Steve Flaherty, superintendent of the Virginia State Police. A law enforcement official, speaking on condition of anonymity because the information had not been announced, said Cho was carrying a backpack that contained receipts for a March purchase of a Glock 9 mm pistol. The bloodbath ended with the gunman's suicide, bringing the death toll from two separate shootings -- first at a dorm, then in a classroom building -- to 33 and stamping the campus in the picturesque Blue Ridge Mountains with unspeakable tragedy. Virginia Tech President Charles Steger defended the university's delay in warning students after the first shooting. Some students said their first notice came in an e-mail at 9:26 a.m., after the second shooting had begun. Steger said the university was trying to notify students who were already on-campus, not those who were commuting in. "We warned the students that we thought were immediately impacted," he told CNN. "We felt that confining them to the classroom was how to keep them safest." He said investigators did not know there was a shooter loose on campus in the interval between the two shootings because the first could have been a murder-suicide. Two students told NBC's "Today" show they were unaware of the dorm shooting when they reported to a German class where the gunman later opened fire. Derek O'Dell, his arm in a cast after being shot, described a shooter who fired away in "eerily silence" with "no specific target -- just taking out anybody he could." After the gunman left the room, students could hear him shooting other people down the hall. O'Dell said he and other students barricaded the door so the shooter couldn't get back in _ though he later tried. "After he couldn't get the door open he tried shooting it open... but the gunshots were blunted by the door," O'Dell said. The slayings left people of this once-peaceful mountain town and the university at its heart praying for the victims, struggling to find order in a tragedy of such unspeakable horror it defies reason. President Bush and first lady Laura Bush were planning to attend a 2 p.m. convocation Tuesday, and people sought comfort Monday night at a church service. One mourner pleaded "for parents near and far who wonder at a time like this, 'Is my child safe?'" That question promises to haunt Blacksburg long after Monday's attacks. Investigators offered no motive, and the gunman's name was not released. The shooting began about 7:15 a.m. on the fourth floor of West Ambler Johnston, a high-rise coed dormitory where two people died. At least 15 people were hurt in the second attack, some seriously. Many found themselves trapped after someone, apparently the shooter, chained and locked Norris Hall doors from the inside. Students jumped from windows, and students and faculty carried away some of the wounded without waiting for ambulances to arrive. SWAT team members with helmets, flak jackets and assault rifles swarmed over the campus. A student used his cell-phone camera to record the sound of bullets echoing through a stone building. Inside Norris, the attack began with a thunderous sound from Room 206 -- "what sounded like an enormous hammer," said Alec Calhoun, a 20-year-old junior who was in a solid mechanics lecture in a classroom next door. Screams followed an instant later, and the banging continued. When students realized the sounds were gunshots, Calhoun said, he started flipping over desks to make hiding places. Others dashed to the windows of the second-floor classroom, kicking out the screens and jumping from the ledge of Room 204, he said. "I must've been the eighth or ninth person who jumped, and I think I was the last," said Calhoun, of Waynesboro, Va. He landed in a bush and ran. Calhoun said that the two students behind him were shot, but that he believed they survived. Just before he climbed out the window, Calhoun said, he turned to look at his professor, who had stayed behind, apparently to prevent the gunman from opening the door. The instructor was killed, Calhoun said. Erin Sheehan, who was in the German class next door to Calhoun's class, told the student newspaper, the Collegiate Times, that she was one of only four of about two dozen people in the class to walk out of the room. The rest were dead or wounded, she said. She said the gunman "was just a normal-looking kid, Asian, but he had on a Boy Scout-type outfit. He wore a tan button-up vest, and this black vest, maybe it was for ammo or something." The gunman first shot the professor in the head and then fired on the class, another student, Trey Perkins, told The Washington Post. The gunman was about 19 years old and had a "very serious but very calm look on his face," he said. "Everyone hit the floor at that moment," said Perkins, 20, of Yorktown, Va., a sophomore studying mechanical engineering. "And the shots seemed like it lasted forever." At an evening news conference, Police Chief Wendell Flinchum refused to dismiss the possibility that a co-conspirator or second shooter was involved. He said police had interviewed a male who was a "person of interest" in the dorm shooting and who knew one of the victims, but he declined to give details. "I'm not saying there's a gunman on the loose," Flinchum said. Ballistics tests will help explain what happened, he said. Some students bitterly complained that the first e-mail warning arrived more than two hours after the first shots. "I think the university has blood on their hands because of their lack of action after the first incident," said Billy Bason, 18, who lives on the seventh floor of the dorm. Steger emphasized that the university closed off the dorm after the first attack and decided to rely on e-mail and other electronic means to spread the word, but said that with 11,000 people driving onto campus first thing in the morning, it was difficult to get the word out. He said that before the e-mail was sent, the university began telephoning resident advisers in the dorms and sent people to knock on doors. Students were warned to stay inside and away from the windows. "We can only make decisions based on the information you had at the time. You don't have hours to reflect on it," Steger said. The 9:26 e-mail had few details: "A shooting incident occurred at West Amber Johnston earlier this morning. Police are on the scene and are investigating." Until Monday, the deadliest shooting in modern U.S. history was in Killeen, Texas, in 1991, when George Hennard plowed his pickup truck into a Luby's Cafeteria and shot 23 people to death, then himself. The massacre Monday took place almost eight years to the day after the Columbine High bloodbath near Littleton, Colo. On April 20, 1999, two teenagers killed 12 fellow students and a teacher before taking their own lives. Previously, the deadliest campus shooting in U.S. history was a rampage that took place in 1966 at the University of Texas at Austin, where Charles Whitman climbed the clock tower and opened fire with a rifle from the 28th-floor observation deck. He killed 16 people before he was shot to death by police. Founded in 1872, Virginia Tech is nestled in southwestern Virginia, about 160 miles west of Richmond. With more than 25,000 full-time students, it has the state's largest full-time student population. The school is best known for its engineering school and its powerhouse Hokies football team. Police said there had been bomb threats on campus over the past two weeks but that they had not determined whether they were linked to the shootings. It was second time in less than a year that the campus was closed because of gunfire. Last August, the opening day of classes was canceled when an escaped jail inmate allegedly killed a hospital guard off campus and fled to the Tech area. A sheriff's deputy was killed just off campus. The accused gunman, William Morva, faces capital murder charges. Among the dead were professors Liviu Librescu and Kevin Granata, said Ishwar K. Puri, the head of the engineering science and mechanics department. Librescu, an Israeli, was born in Romania and was known internationally for his research in aeronautical engineering, Puri wrote in an e-mail to The Associated Press. Granata and his students researched muscle and reflex response and robotics. Puri called him one of the top five biomechanics researchers in the country working on movement dynamics in cerebral palsy. Also killed was Ryan Clark, a student from Martinez, Ga., who had several majors and carried a 4.0 grade-point average, said Vernon Collins, coroner in Columbia County, Ga. His friend Gregory Walton, a 25-year-old who graduated last year, said he feared the nightmare had just begun. "I knew when the number was so large that I would know at least one person on that list," said Walton, a banquet manager. "I don't want to look at that list. I don't want to. "It's just, it's going to be horrible, and it's going to get worse before it gets better."

It's just a blog-time news set up...but i still think it's imporant that we all go over there and voice our opinion...a mature one of course...ha ha.

I waz at work all day...so i didn't hear the newz until hours later. I don't understand how sickos in the world can do stuff like this. And why i can understand why people would run from someone with a gun, i can't believe that someone could kill and injur that many people without being stopped. There were hundreds of people in those buildings that could have stopped him, but it doesn't sound like anyone tried. I understand the danger, but given any kinda chance, i think i'd have 2 try and stop him if it waz just one guy. I guess it's hard 2 know exactly what 2 do when faced with that kinda situation. Everytime something like this happens, it makes u realize how this kinda thing could happen anywhere, and how security measures haven't changed since the last few school shootings. And the biggest shocker 2 me is that the college waited over 2 hours 2 inform the campus of the 1st shootings. Even if they thought that coward left campus, there waz no excuse 2 not let everyone know what happened right after it happened. My prayers go out 2 everyone involved. I hope this doesn't lead 2 more of the same.

FP has attended stuff like this in the past. I could see him showing up 2 this. I think something like this is always good, and at least temporarely motivates some of the idiots who need 2 hear it. At the same time, it's kinda embarassing that legends like Russell have 2 do stuff like this tho.' I think it's interesting that the whole Imus thing sparked it tho'...since it seems so disconnected from Hip-Hop. On top of that, there's alot of other stuff that they should be focusing on. Back 2 Imus tho'...commercial Rap has become just as sexist and in some cases, as racists as idiots like Imus. Where waz waz the whole Hip-Hop Summit thing back in the 90's when it all started falling apart??

If u look around, i'm sure u'll find it. I think i got mine of CDnow.com and their single off ebay.

:metoo: That's been a mystery for many years. I know that i sometimes 4get exactly how old i am...ha ha. I have 2 think about it cuz time has been flying the last few years.

Yeah, i love that set...i haven't watched it in over a year. I've been dying 2 watch it again for months but haven't had the time 2 do so. I love the set. The Top 40 songs don't bug me at all. Of course there are other songs i wouldn't mind seeing in their place....but i think y'all are being 2 greedy. The fact that a JJ+FP concert is available on DVD is amazing.

FP and JL had the imprint WilJam. 2 my knowledge, 2 Too Many waz the only group on the imprint. They exec. produced the whole thing. Off the top of my head i can't remember the trax FP co-wrote (it's in the credits). I'll post them 2nite tho.' Jazzy's input wazn't equal, but of course he remixed their only real single and i remember them giving him props in the Thank U's.

JENNIFER LOPEZ - Alive J 2 Tha L-O: The Remixes (2002)

I wanted 2 throw a prayer request out for one of my co-workers. She's the same age as me and has 3 kids. She's been seeing this guy who i've always thought waz a loser for awhile now. Well, about a month ago, she found out he waz talking 2 some other girl. When she brought it 2 his face, i think he stopped talking 2 the other girl. Anyways, she walks to work and something popped off right b4 she left for work 2day. On her walk (which takes about 10 minutes), he started yelling at her about virutally nothing. He chased her down on a busy street. When she tried 2 get away from him, he hit her in the face and pushed her out into the busy street. She called as at work as she got closer 2 the mall and he ripped her phone out of her hand and threw it in the street destroying it. He also thru' some of the stuff in her bag in2 the street. I told my co-worker her talked 2 her b4 he ripped the phone out of her hand 2 call mall security and tell them 2 look out 4 her. She got away from him and as of now, his pathetic butt is in prison for felony assault. I'm just hoping she makes the right decision and never talks 2 the loser again and that no drama happens after all this. Most guys like this won't let this kinda crap go. He has no job, no real friends, and no life...so i'm worried he'll try 2 keep bugging her if he gets out.

Yeah, and FP co-wrote about 3 songs on their album. I have the album but haven't listened 2 it in ages. It's good 90's Hip-Hop. If u like early 90's JJ+FP, u'd like 2 Too Many.

JOHN REUBEN - All I Have The Boy Vs. The Cynic (2005) "i'm alright, i'm okay i kinda like doin' things this way all i have is all God gives and that's all the life that i waz meant 2 live"

Let me be hypocritical for a second. I just think think athlete albums are silly. I've never been able 2 take them seriously. But at the same time, i've always liked Shaq's records. He came straight out the gate tho'...saying "nobody wants 2 hear me rap for an hour" which is why he would fill his albums up with dope producers and good artists (4 the most part). I remember hearing Deon Sanders album and cracking up. I love the joint MC Hammer did 4 him "Straight To My Feet" off the Street Fighter soundtrack. But thinkin' back 2 the track (which i own...and actually listened 2 last week), i don't even remember Deon being on it. I also have some NFL and NBA albums that pair athletes with real artists and producers. There were a few talented guys on there, but 2 be honest, i don't remember any of them...just the artists they worked with (the only reason i copped the albums). Overall tho,' i think it's important 2 give anything a listen tho'...but when it comes 2 non-English Hip-Hop and Rap, i rarely peep it since i won't understand any of it. I'll listen 2 non-English music styles since u can still appreciate an artists' voice, but u don't really get the same effect with an emcee.

QUEEN LATIFAH + PAT BENATAR - Love Is A Battlefield (Kay Gee Remix) Small Soldiers Soundtrack (1998)

98 DEGREES - I Do (Cherish You) (Love To Infinity Master Mix) I Do (Import CD Single) (1999)

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TIMBALAND, NICOLE SCHERZINGER, + KERI HILSON - Scream Shock Value (2007) The album is growing on me...but it'll never be on the level of his other albums.

Welcome 2 da board!! New heads are always welcome!!

Baby steps, Jim...Baby steps. U know there will be a full out JJ+FP track on the next one.

ROME - Crazy Love The Best of Rome (1996/2006) Man, i wish this cat would have never got dropped from his label. Classic mid-90's R-N-B.

AJ Personal Rule #364 No technology is allowed in the same room as me if any article of clothing has been removed.

R. KELLY - Thoia Thoing (R, Kelly, Silk + The People's Choice Remix) The R. In R+B: The Video Collection Bonus Disc (2003)

I think the whole akward thing waz just cuz it wazn't her kinda scene. Not Jazzy or the vibe.