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Right now i'm listening 2 the b-side/remix EP by Beyonce that comes with her Live At Wembley DVD.

Don't 4get that word of mouth can effect sales. Street teaming on the internet in a mature way works 2. The best way is just just blast the music when u are in populated areas. Then tape a pic of the album cover 2 your window with the phrase "I'm listening 2 this right now." :roll:

Kanye is cool compared 2 this very low new skool standards in music...but he's no genious.

Let's be real about it. Who here considers people like those people on those Bloods + Crips albums rappers?? They are just people off the street putting an album 2gether. That dosen't mean they are rappers. They are just trying 2 monopolize off their stupid life choice. Do they live and breath Hip-Hop, perform, and put their art 1st?? And please confirm that the guys from 213 were legit gangbangers. I've heard them in interviews for over 10 years and they've never talked about that. My comment above comes from 99% of the rappers who call themselves gangsta rappers...they sold some drugs and have addiction problems and it makes them think they are hardcore hood-stompin' gangsta when they are really playing themselves and trying 2 fool their fans. REAL GANGSTAS DON'T RAP. How many people u know are like "Yo, after this drive-by, i'ma hit up the studio." :roll: Gangsta rap has been dead since 1996. Other than the necleus of "gangsta rap" (Eazy-E, Dr. Dre, Snoop Dogg, Tha Dogg Pound), who actually attempts 2 make it anymore. Nobody, cuz when De La Soul, Fugees, A Tribe Called Quest, Nas, and others were making real music. Intellegent music fans were realizing how stupid and phoney it was. Besides, other than the main players, all the wannabes fell off with no success. Some people would say Warren G waz a gangsta rapper...but if they actually listen 2 his lyrics, they'd realize he wazn't. People tryed 2 tag 2pac as that....listen 2 the man's words!! He would always knock that idea in interviews. Ice Cube makes hardcore Hip-Hop...not 2 be mixed up with gangsta rap like uneducated rap fans always do.

[quote=Jazzy Julie,Aug 26 2004, 09:22 AM]yey! that story is so amazingly bad that its good. Im sure it will be publlished. [/quote] Acually...i just think it's amazingly bad...period.

Ugh...if this is true, that's messed up. He's got talent, but not $30,000 worth for 2 songs!! On top of that, it's a church!! Churchs aren't exactly the richest organizations in the world. He should have done it for free. It's not like there were thousands of of audience members. Let's be real, he may be succesful right now, but he's not that big that he can be pullin' crap like that without suffering. He probably showed up all my himself so he could take all the money 4 himself. What a joke.

:hilarious: U'll have 2 make 'em harder than this.

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As a long time fan, i do feel kinda neglected with this new album. But we'll see how things turn out. I still got her back.

:roll: Those Bloods and Crips CD are trash. Just cuz u put out and album also dosen't mean u are a rapper. Those crappy old CDs would be the perfect example. And Snoop and The Dogg Pound aren't real gangbangers...they would be in jail if they were. Smoking some weed and selling drugs isn't gangbanging. Warren G even says a line on the album about them being "gangstas that never killed anyone." They use the term as a label...as a style. They aren't talking 4 real like they do that. U are talking about 3 guys who have kids and grew up in church. They are paid aftering being in the game 4 so many years and gangbanging is about as far away from what they do as u can get. REAL GANGSTAS DON'T RAP!! KRS-One said that 2 Eazy-E's face on The Arsenio Hall Show in 1993. Eazy-E just laffed cuz he had nothing 2 say. Eazy-E is the godfather of gangsta rap. If he wazn't challenging the fact, who can?! Anyone who says they are seriously a gangsta in their music is just a phoney and all their music is a joke. They are living a lie and any people who support that are just ignorant human beings.

[quote=bigted,Aug 26 2004, 02:15 AM]No Michael on the album?!!! :eek4:[/quote] Yeah, it really is kinda weird. I mean, he's 1/4th of the group and they aren't the same without him. He make their harmonies full and his monologs were part of the BIIM signature. I'm not sure the extent of his health problems but i know they've been serious on and off since 2000. He would miss some of their shows (and original member Marc Nelson...of Az Yet and singer of the 1999 hit song "15 Minutes" would sometimes fill in even tho' he's not a bass). U think he'd at least be able 2 record. Mike seemed like one of the nices guys in the industry. He waz soft spoken and always a positive kinda guy. He organized charity events and stuff without all the spotlight. I just hope he's doing good even tho' he's no longer active in the group.

Welcome 2 the board!! This is definitly the place 2 be.

I went with general Hip-Hop. FP said that the album will have a retro Hip-Hop feel. Retro Hip-Hop and old skool are 2 different things. Old skool would be like "So Fresh" where they actually take the music and rhyme styles back 2 the 80's. Retro Hip-Hop would be like "How Da Beat Goes" and "Pump Me Up" where the song is totally fresh with a feel good vibe and traces of old skool style. I'm pretty sure there will be a dash of experimental Hip-Hop in the mix tho.' After Born To Reign, he isnt' gonna just 2 the traditional stuff. Not 2 mention this being a big comeback 4 him...i'm pretty sure they'll be some new stuff thrown in2 his usual style.

I just saw The Cookout's trailor....it looks pretty funny. And Latifah gets her moments in it as well. September 3rd it drops.

I kinda count this album the way i would count a soundtrack that FP would do 4 a movie. It would still be his music...but i wouldn't throw it in the same category as his regular albums. "California Dreamin'" waz really good even tho' it wazn't what i wanted, but when i heard "Baby Get Lost" i waz just unhappy. I don't know if i want this album to be successful cuz i want her 2 get hugry and do a Hip-Hop album SOON.

I don't mind her doing Cover Girl and Pizza Hut commercials. I love seeing her on movie screens...but i want some Hip-Hop from her. R-N-B would even be fine, but these trax just aren't doing it 4 me. I would never call her a sell out cuz she's doin' what she wants 2 do. It's not about pleasing us as fans, it's about pleasing herself as an artist. Hip-Hop is the best way 2 express yourself so 2 me, these new songs are stictly entertainment and not really her expressing herself. I don't think we've heard the last verse she'll spit, but it looks like it'll be awhile til we hear it. Hopefully she's rip something real raw on the Taxi soundtrack.

Bloodline has never had any success...so if u missed it, it's no great loss. From the things i heard from them, they were only in2 gritty street stuff.

Yeah, it seems like artists and companies are flying over 2 Koch Records. But i dont know why. They put out albums and that's it...no promotion. Montell Jordan's came out with one video that got some play on BET but gain no real success. There waz a promo vinyl single released and that waz it. Deathrow's 2Pac remix album and live album came out with no videos, singles, etc. Now Boyz II Men, one of the most respected groups of all time come out with no video or singles. Hopefully they get on the ball. It's nice 2 have creative freedom, but it's no good if people don't hear your music.

Da 'Prince and tha Queen need 2 stop proving their are born 2 reign and just rock the freakin' mic!! :roll: Hopefully FP dosen't try 2 get on her album singing...Jazzy Jeff on the acoustic guitar...

I love DMX, but his Bloodline label seems like crap. I've heard some of his artists when he 1st formed it and they were just average on the mic with nothing good 2 say in their music.

AOL's First Listen is featuring 2 new Queen Latifah trax. I thought her last album, 1998's "Order In The Court," had it's "Born To Reign" moments where she experimented with some different things...but these 2 trax take the cake. When she said she wazn't rapping on her next album...she actually meant NO HIP-HOP. There's not a dash of Hip-Hop on the trax i heard. Here's what AOL had 2 say... "For today only, AOL is hosting the WORLD premiere of two new songs from Queen Latifah. The actor/spokeswoman/singer is dipping into music's roots for covers of 'California Dreamin'' and 'Baby Get Lost' from her Sept. album, her first since 1998. " The 1st song is "California Dreamin.'" It's this acoustic pop soul song. I guess India Arie is the closet thing u could compare 2 the sound....except India Arie's music is really really good. Latifah's voice is beautiful and the song isn't bad...but it's just not right. The 2nd track is "Baby Get Lost"...this is the track that killed me. This sounded like something that belonged on the Chicago soundtrack. Totally like 30's sounding stuff. WHY WHY WHY!!!! Since i love Latifah, i just may get this album in September, but i'll probably be crying. I just don't see how u can make a song as fly as the one on the Bringing Down The House soundtrack, and then do a gritty Flava Unit album, guest spot on Naughty By Nature's 2002 album and then go this far from your roots. AOL had this picture of her lookin' all glamorous with long straight hair, siphisticated suit showing cleavage, holding a silver microphone and a backdrop that looked like an 80's music video. I guess we can at least look forward 2 her movie Taxi. Sure, it also features the incredibly untalented and unfunny Jimmy Fallen, but Latifah is hilarious in it and she plays a character much like herself. AOL's polls for the songs said that 57% of the people "Loved them," 32 percent "liked them," and 11% "hated them." Then i checked the AOL message board on them and most people were saying they were "HOT" but people peeping out AOL's 1st listen aren't exactly Hip-Hop central on the web. There were a few people asking why she would do this.

Yeah, i think it's important 2 support these established artists. They are older and have better things (and higher quality music) 2 offer people. It seems that the business is designed 2 ignore them and support new artists, many who don't have any talent or heart. I liked Jodeci alot. Their last album disappointed me here and there but they defintly were one of the best male R-N-B groups of the 90's. Their comeback album waz supposed 2 come out around 2000/2001 but it never did. They had 2 new songs on K-Ci + Jo Jo's "X" album but there waz no news of them on their last, 2002, album. Boyz II Men's new album is very good...however, some of the tracks lack the magic that u'd expect from them. Still a good album, i just hope a new album comes out in a year or 2. R. KELLY's new one is pretty good. The 1st part of it, "HAPPY PEOPLE" is what i'd like 2 call "grown folks weekend soul." Young people with non-mainstream taste will like it, but it's probably 2 advanced 4 your average young radio listener. Just feel good music R-N-B soul. If u like songs like "Step In The Name of Love"...u'll love this album. That's kinda the whole vibe of "Happy People." I like it myself, but i won't always be in the mood 4 it. Kinda makes me want the days of "Bump + Grind, Your Body's Callin,' U Remind Me of Something, I Can't Sleep, Down Low, Half On A Baby." If Marvin Gaye waz young and making music these days, some of it would be kinda like this. The 2nd part "U SAVED ME" is an inspirational gospel album. It has a modern R-N-B feel mixed with a dash of Kirk Franklin's gospel sound. God, Prayer, and self improvment are all over the album. Very uplifting stuff that people of all ages need 2 hear. This half of the album is much better lyrically and musically. This album will speak 2 people who don't wanna hear it. Tho' i know Kelly is a spiritual man, i kinda thought that this disc may be a plan 2 make him look a lil' better with this scandel going 2 court. There have been rumors of him doing a gospel album for about 5 years and a handful of gospel songs he's done over the years, but i waz kinda skeptical. However, when i heard it, i knew this man waz 4 real. Since i got the 2Pac live album the other week (which i already said would only be worth getting 4 die-hard fans), i waz reminded how much i love his music so i went out and got the re-release of Gang Related. I've never seen this movie (along with Bullet) so i'm finally gonna check it out. It features a "Making-Of..." featurette 4 those who care. I got mine at Circuit City which had it in a bin of Buy 1, Get 1 Free so i dug thru' it and also found Jada's movie Jason's Lyric which i've always wanted 2 see so i got that as well. Tho' i'm not Mase's biggest fan (some of u may remember how much i hated him), i still wanna listen 2 his album in stores sincea he's changed up his game. If anyone likes him and gets it, let me know how it is.

No, this is New Edition...Ronnie, Ricky, Mike, Ralph, and Johnny. BBD dropped an album in late 2001 but nobody got it. It's actually very good and they planned on releasing another shortly after. However, since it didn't make much noize, they never really got started on it. NE waz supposed 2 drop this new album in 2002 but with Bobby not working with them and legal issues, they never got it fully put 2gether. They also wanted 2 put out a movie and tour 2 go with it marking their 20 years in the game. 2 hold us NE fan over, they put out a "Hits" album last year mixing their old stuff with the 3 big hits off Home Again. It waz kinda strange having all that old stuff right next 2 their stuff from 1996...and they left off a few big old skool hits.

2 me, all of those unathorized 2Pac documentaries are made strictly for 2Pac fans...otherwise, they are crap. As a 2Pac fan, i know they suck, but those moments with him speaking (unless he's really high and/or drunk) are usually very introspective. Thug Angel is the best unathorized 2Pac documentary. The others are just 4 his true fans. Nobody else would be able 2 bare watching them the whole way thru'....ha ha.

I'm listening 2 it right now. I'm kinda disappointed. A full studio album would be so much better than an album of covers. Nate, Shawn, and Wanya are the only ones in the group now. I knew Mike had health problems but i didn't know they were serious 2 keep him from recording. The guys don't mention him in the Thank You's tho'...but it's hard 4 me 2 imagin these guys who are like brothers having serious creative differences. His voice is definitly missed in the harmonizing and those monologs he did on some of their music. They aren't on Arista anymore (since Arista's doors have closed). They are now on the indy label that keeps growing KOCH Records (which distributes Montell Jordan, Deathrow products, and so on). So they now have total control of their music. Anyways, it's all about the music, so here's my review. LET IT WHIP - bad song choice in my opinion...especially 2 open the album. Akward funk track that has a weak retro-feel. The Dazz Band originally recorded this track. LET'S STAY TOGETHER - Ahh...the Al Green classic. Great song, however, the percussion in the song is a bit 2 much. The akward synthisizers also get on my nerves. P-Nutt from A Touch of Jazz produced this one with the Boyz. Decent cover of the song tho.' WHAT YOU WON'T DO FOR LOVE - Another good cover choice originally by Bobby Caldwell. This one offers something new that the original dosen't...a rap from MC Lyte. The fondation of the beat is good, but there a instrument in their that takes away from the song. P-Nutt from ATOJ also produced this one with them. CUTIE PIE - This is a bad cover choice. This track originally by One Way is just way 2 retro-faux. Boyz II Men just shouldn't do funk trax....it's just not their thing. D-Nutt from ATOJ produced this track and Jazzy Jeff actually programmed some of the drums on it. CLOSE THE DOOR - Great choice...classic song from the one and only Teddy Pendergrass!! I think Montell Jordan's cover of it in 1994 waz better, but this is the 1st track that is solid thru' and thru.' P-Nutt produces this track also. The legendary Larry Gold dose strings 4 this one. FOR THE LOVE OF YOU - Perfect cover choice!! Isley Brothers classic!! Probably my fav song by them. Refreshing summer breezy feel. P-Nutt dose another good one with them. SARA SMILE - I'm not familiar with this Hall & Oates song...but i LOVE THIS SONG. The drums and guitars are amazing. Strings by Larry Gold underscore it all. I think the fact that i didn't know the original song helps me appriciate this song 4 everything it is by BIIM. Incredible song!!! P-Nutt produces this track. HUMAN NATURE - BIIM doing a Michael Jackson song...sounds good 2 me. This is a very acoustic version of it. TIME WILL REVEAL - Classic DeBarge song. This one takes it back 2 BIIM's roots and they handel this one acappella. If only Mike waz there filling up the harmonizing. Someone is doing bass on it...but i'm guessing it's one of the Boyz. WHERE IS MIKE!?!?!?!?!?!? I MISS YOU - Timeless acoustic vibe. I really like this one...the song is beautiful. I'm not familiar with the original version by Klymaxx so i can appriciate it 4 everything their version is. Chorus is familiar, but that's it. YOU MAKE ME FEEL BRAND NEW - BIIM doing The Stylistics...i knew this one would be good from the beginning. I wish there waz just a lil' more thrown in2 the produciton but it's a good song all around. Other than the akward funk-vibed trax, the album is a good solid album that older peeps will love (probably) and it's a great way 2 introduce some classics 2 a younger audience. This album is for the true BIIM fans, but not 4 mainstream audiences...tho' 2/3rds of the album would make good singles. Hopefully they'll keep working with ATOJ on their future projects. If they can do a lil' over half of the album which is made up of cover songs...a full studio album would be great.