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We try not to ban people that easily fuq we give warnings 1st if you say or post something inappropriate, unless you do something drastic like hack the board that's something different. :stickpoke:

It's WORSE in Australia! :stickpoke: ← Australia's pretty racist yeah.. in melbourne where I am.. its full of all kinds of people.. australian, philipino, asian, india, italian, croatian, we got the largest greek population outside of greece..one of the largest sri lankan populations.. etc etc thats the kind of australia i like.. ← Well then if I get money up one day I might move there if there's no racism and we'll hang out! Is it just me or did this forum turn into CNN? :word: It's all good 'cause I like intelligent convos.

Hey Chief it's aight for you to make jokes but you could see that we were in the middle of a heated discussion and since you don't post here that much we don't know about your sense of humor that's all, make love f*** war, peace!

:word: That's true, it's just life, you just gotta live with it that's all!

If I had money I'd move out of America myself, there's too much prejudice here, you try to do the right thing and they kick you down!

Nice to hear that Kanye selling that much, it's been a long time since a positive rap album sold that much in the 1st week! :kekeke: It's unfortunate though that Yayo had a better 1st week than Will Smith and a lot of other positive rappers but I think his album will struggle to go platinum too, it'd be nice to see one garbage album not go platinum!

Michael Jackson is a good guy, he doesn't deserve all the criticism he gets, he was declared innocent, the media should leave him alone and let him live his life, he never went to jail for rape, there's other celebrities that do things and go to jail so money doesn't mean you're gonna get away with it, he's always been a positive influence through his music and this song will prove that once again, I wish more people could talk about that, Will should get on the song too with him, they need to look at the "Man In The Mirror" like one of MJ's songs said before they criticise other people, none of us are perfect! :word:

I think it's also ignorant though when white men tell their daughters not to go out with black guys though too, it works both ways remember, not saying that Common was right but you gotta consider that too 'cause I'd go out with white girls and their parents would get on them for going out with me and I wasn't doing anything wrong, I mean why go through the drama if I could go out with a black girl with parents to could accept me, but I always give everybody a chance if I care about them but their family gotta respect me too, it's just like when Malcolm X said white people are devils in one of his earlier speeches, he realised he was wrong and that're some good ones when he went to the Pilgimige at Mecca but there's a lot of them that discriminate us and we might wanna call them devils 'cause I don't call it godly when you judge somebody for what they look like instead of the character they really are, it's obvious their parents hated me 'cause of what I look like and that's wrong so I might wanna call them devils myself! :shake:

It's embarassment for hip-hop that a white rapper like Eminem with no subject matter has sold as much as 2Pac has in his career who only started selling till he died and his music had heart and a lot of people in the public never heard of KRS-ONE and Common, Em's buddy 50 Cent is also an embarassment, even with all the world problems he still wants to beef with other rappers just to sell records, I'd like to see the day that positive rappers LL Cool J and Nas could sell 10 million, 50 and Em are the reason why the media criticises hip-hop so much, we need better role models to top the chart.

I know I go off topic sometimes but how do you link Lance Johnson's accusations of doping to looters of Hurricane Katrina? :lolsign: btw, I don't think they could charge him guilty yet, they were just rumors, there's no evidance to prove he did so don't say that he was using steroids until he's guilty! :topic: Kanye has criticised Bush several times in his songs like a lot of conscious rappers do since Bush ignores the black community constantly, they just don't do it for fashion, we don't wanna sell crack, go into prostitution, or rob people but he doesn't give jobs to the inner cities and come up with a plan to rebuild schools so wtf are we supposed to do if nothing's there? The government Uncle Sams and Uncle Toms need to spend time in the 'hood and see how they survive just like we need to see what they'd do without food/water for 4 days watching their people die around them, would they really stay calm like they tell us "refugees" to? It's easy to say if they got an 20-room mansion and were born with a spoon in thier mouth! "drug dealin' just to get by/stack your money till it gets sky high/'cause we don't care what people say/we wasn't supposed to make it past 25/jokes on you we're still alive/we don't care what people say"(Kanye West-"We Don't Care) A lot of rappers know 'cause they made it from the 'hood and're now having success but it's like the government wants to throw us back there again by ruining our careers. This been there long before him but if you ain't part of the problem, you're part of the solution. It's the truth that us brothers in hip-hop are letting it out, too bad it takes a tragedy for people to realise this, he'd rather go to a party than to help the black people there, if you can't see that you must be blind, if this was a surburban area of Florida with mostly whites he'd cancel his party and run down there even if a lot of the people down there would have money to escape since they got better jobs than us n****rs, I bet my whole life that he would still run though! :sick:

Boyz II Men feat. Mariah "One Sweet Day"(1995)

Here's some news of NBA players giving back to help out the victims of Hurricane Katina! : "NBA Players Association to Donate $2.5 Million to Aid Hurricane Victims Marbury and Houston Join Players Association to Help Hurricane Victims by Tom Kertes NEW YORK, September 6, 2005 -- “When I see all those babies float in the river…I think about the kids…My kids…I just hug my own son….He doesn’t even know why….” With these words, Stephon Marbury broke down in uncontrollable sobs and simply could not continue. This occurred at an unbelievably emotional Tuesday noon press conference given by the NBA Players Association, with the New York Knicks star point guard, backcourt-mate Allan Houston, NBAPA President Antonio Davis, and NBAPA Secretary-Treasurer Pat Garrity participating. New Orlerans Hornets forward P.J. Brown, whose new house in Slidell, Louisiana was destroyed by Hurricane Katrina, and NBAPA Director of Player Programs Purvis Short were on the telephone from the location of the disaster. “Last week I was authorized by the NBAPA to announce a contribution of at least one million dollars to the victims of Hurricane Katrina,” NBAPA Executive Director Billy Hunter said. “I am proud to announce that we will not only meet that obligation but our contribution will match our donation to the victims of the World Trade Center tragedy. This number was never previously publicized before but we actually gave 2.5 million dollars.” The NBAPA, in conjunction with the Feed The Children Foundation, “will also maintain a continuous effort to provide help,” added Hunter. “This will not be a onetime thing, I assure you. We will help as long as help is needed. Nor does this amount include any individual contributions players may want to make.” According to Hunter, Kobe Bryant has already given $100,000, Baron Davis $60,000, Mavs forward Alan Henderson $100,000, and second-year Bulls’ guard Chris Duhon $30,000. “Our players are stepping up,” Hunter said. “They are anxious and willing to contribute not only their finances but also their time.” HOW TO HELP On behalf of our teams and players, the NBA sends its thoughts and prayers to victims of Hurricane Katrina. We encourage fans to support the relief efforts by visiting RedCross.org or calling the Red Cross help line at 1-800-HELP-NOW. A group of players are traveling to the site of the disaster to distribute food and other necessaries. NBA announcer Kenny Smith is also organizing a charity game to be held this Sunday in Houston with 35 NBA players participating and making further financial contributions. Hunter stressed the importance of “our partnership with Feed The Children, an organization that we worked with before and an organization that as of today has 90 tractor-trailers on the road to deliver food to the Gulf Coast.” “We know from our past association that Feed The Children has the capacity, has the know-how, and has the will to help,” added Hunter. “They’ve got the manpower, the resources, and the trucks.” “The most important thing is that we don’t just give money and walk away,” said Davis. “We want people to know that we are willing to give our time. We want to be there to help people who lost everything to build a new home and find a new life. We want to be there in every way we can throughout what we know is going to be a long and arduous process.” “These are times when we realize we are so fortunate just to breathe and walk,” Marbury attempted to continue. “We’ve got to come together…try to live as one…think about the way we treat people…I just keep looking at my kids…hold them so tight…” Marbury, who kept sobbing uncontrollably throughout the entire press conference, once again had to stop. In his stead, Hunter announced that “Stephon told me that he will donate somewhere between $500,000 and 1 million dollars.” “My friend Lindsey Hunter just called me,” said Houston. “He’s already got a couple of trucks and went down to New Orleans to help with food, clothes, and whatever else people may need.” Brown told of “an overwhelming situation here in Slidell, Louisiana. People basically lost everything. There is no water. There is no electricity. There is no gas. Entire communities look completely devastated, like someone dropped the bomb.” “The devastation is unimaginable,” Short reported from Mississippi. “Television can’t possibly do it justice. We will have to stay in this effort in order to provide real help -- it’s going to take YEARS for people to get back on their feet.” “I have 55 more semi-trucks,” Feed The Children President Larry Jones said. “And warehouses all over the country. So tell your TV stations, newspapers, corporations, maybe you have a truckload of socks, or tee-shorts, or water. We’ll have to give these people water for months and months to come. It’s going to be a long haul. We’re not going to go the second mile, we’re going to have to go the third, fourth, fifth, and sixth mile to help these people. Like Stephon said, we all need to pull together right now. We are going to do just that. And we are going to work literally night and day to do everything that we can.” -Milwaukee Bucks Contribute $500,000 To Hurricane Relief September 3, 2005 - The Milwaukee Bucks will contribute $500,000 to the efforts to assist victims of Hurricane Katrina, the organization announced Saturday. The commitment includes $l00,000 to the American Red Cross, through the cooperation of the Milwaukee chapter, and $l00,000 to the United Way’s national hurricane relief efforts, through the United Way of Greater Milwaukee. Both Milwaukee chapters are cooperating with the national affiliates’ efforts to address the massive aid project by directing local contributions to their parent organizations. “United Way is doing what we do best, mobilizing resources,” Sue Dragisic, United Way of Greater Milwaukee President said Saturday. “By directing their funds to the United Way Hurricane Katrina Response Fund, the Bucks are investing in frontline disaster relief and long-term recovery needs. The local United Ways in affected areas will now be able to coordinate relief through their vast network of agencies and volunteer centers,” Dragisic said. “The response to Hurricane Katrina is the largest mobilization of resources in the history of the American Red Cross,” Bud McKonly, Chapter Executive of the American Red Cross Greater Milwaukee Chapter said. “We could not provide the services that the victims of this disaster need without the support of organizations like the Milwaukee Bucks. We thank the Bucks on behalf of all who we will be able to help with their support.” The Bucks organization will continue to work with both the Milwaukee chapter of the Red Cross and The United Way of Greater Milwaukee, as well as the National Basketball Association, to assist with efforts both locally and nationally to respond to the needs of victims of the Gulf Coast disaster. -Duhon Lends Hand to Gulf Region Aug. 31, 2005 -- An update from Bulls.com: Chris Duhon sends his extreme gratitude to everyone who has expressed interest in assisting the victims in his hometown of Slidell. If you would like to contribute in this effort, you may do so in either of the following ways: MONETARY DONATIONS: All monetary donations may be submitted by sending a check payable to Stand Tall Foundation to the following address: Stand Tall Foundation C/O Chris Duhon 1151 N. State St. Box 249 Chicago, IL 60610 CLOTHING AND NON-PERISHABLE FOOD DONATIONS: A drop-off date and location are currently being organized. Please check back right here for updated information. Duhon's Standing Tall Foundation is organizing relief efforts for the residents of Slidell, La. impacted by Hurricane Katrina. Jonathan Daniel/NBAE/Getty Images Aug. 30, 2005 -- As officials and residents in the U.S. Gulf Coast states continue to search for survivors and assess the damage from Hurricane Katrina, the Federal Emergency Management Agency (FEMA) is warning that recovery could take weeks, if not months. Once the water levels recede and roadways become passable again, relief is sure to come in many forms – including from Slidell, La. native and Chicago Bulls second-year guard Chris Duhon – for those who suffered losses in the storm. “We’re just working with FEMA,” Duhon said by phone from Chicago Tuesday, “and trying to donate and give as much money and food and clothes, as much as we can, to just help people get back on their feet.” Duhon’s relief effort, Standing Tall Foundation, in conjunction with FEMA, is accepting monetary donations, food and clothing, which will be delivered as soon as possible. Fellow-NBA players Raymond Felton, former Bulls guard Jay Williams and Vin Baker have already pledged their support. Located only a short distance across Lake Pontchartrain from New Orleans, Slidell is situated in St. Tammany Parish, where Duhon attended Salmen High School, before spending four years at Duke. Many of his family members, friends and coaches still call Slidell home. “I have my aunt and her family and kids there,” Duhon said, “everybody I grew up with in high school, coaches. That was home.” Reaching survivors by telephone has proven nearly as impossible as navigating the roads, which remain covered with water or have been destroyed by the storms powerful forces. “I got in contact with a few (friends and family),” Duhon said. “We haven’t gotten in contact with (everybody). The phone lines are real bad right now. We can continue to try but hopefully everybody is okay.” The damage and death toll from Katarina – the most powerful such storm to hit the area since Hurricane Camille left 256 people dead in 1969 – remain unknown, and Duhon is limited to the media reports and few accounts he has received from friends and family. “(Slidell is) right next to Lake Pontchartrain,” Duhon said describing the damage inflicted by Katrina, which “pretty much destroyed or put holes in one of our highways and there’s been reports of (the water level) being eight feet above rooftops. They had an explosion and there’s bodies just floating all around. They just ordered 500 body bags today for people that are in that area. So, a lot of the city is pretty much destroyed.” Returning home to offer assistance will prove difficult for Duhon as training camp quickly approaches, however, he is organizing the delivery of any supplies and monetary donations. Those wishing to make any contributions may do so in either of the following ways: MONETARY DONATIONS: All monetary donations may be submitted by sending a check payable to Stand Tall Foundation to the following address: Stand Tall Foundation C/O Chris Duhon 1151 N. State St. Box 249 Chicago, IL 60610 CLOTHING AND NON-PERISHABLE FOOD DONATIONS: A drop-off date and location are currently being organized. Please check back later for updated information. You may also visit RedCross.org or call 1 800.HELP.NOW to make a donation. -Warriors Guard Baron Davis Contributes $50,000 To Red Cross Disaster Relief Fund Baron Davis Foundation Makes Donation To Help Those In The New Orleans Region Golden State Warriors All-Star guard Baron Davis is assisting relief efforts by contributing $50,000 from the Baron Davis Foundation to the American Red Cross Disaster Relief Fund. “I played for the New Orleans Hornets for three years,” Davis said. “The damage to the city from Hurricane Katrina is irreplaceable. The news coverage has been devastating to watch and my heart goes out to everyone impacted. Thousands of people are homeless. We all know someone who needs help right now. Everyone can make a difference, even $5, just by calling the Red Cross help line.” Davis has also reached out to his Warriors teammate, Monta Ellis, whose family has been impacted by Hurricane Katrina in Mississippi. About the Baron Davis Foundation The Baron Davis Foundation was established to maintain and /or aid educational, social and charitable activities serving the common welfare of youth. The Foundation's mission is to positively impact the quality of life for underprivileged and at-risk youth in the New Orleans, Bay area and Los Angeles metropolitan communities. The National Basketball Players Association also announced that it is launching an immediate effort, on behalf of every player in the NBA, to assist in the relief effort for victims of Hurricane Katrina. The union will be actively involved in procuring and delivering supplies, including food and clothing, to the hardest hit areas of the devastating storm that ripped through Louisiana, Mississippi and other areas.

"Jackson Writes Song for Katrina Victims NEW YORK - Michael Jackson has written a song to help raise funds for the victims of Hurricane Katrina and will soon record it. Tentatively titled, "From the Bottom of My Heart," the singer plans to ask other musicians to join him in recording it, his spokeswoman, Raymone K. Bain, said Tuesday. Jackson hopes to record the song within two weeks in the style of "We Are the World," which he co-wrote and produced in 1985 to raise money for famine relief efforts in Africa. "It pains me to watch the human suffering taking place in the gulf region of my country," Jackson, 47, said in a statement. "I will be reaching out to others within the music industry to join me in helping to bring relief and hope to these resilient people who have lost everything." Jackson has been mostly reclusive since he was acquitted of child molestation charges in California on June 13. He has been spending much of his time in Bahrain as the guest of Sheik Abdulla bin Hamad Al Khalifa, whose label, 2 Seas Records, will produce the single"

"The babies, we gotta teach em, and hold em Send em to school, so we can teach em, and mold em Shape em, and make em take form Cause their mind is like a ball of clay when it's wet and warm Harmless and innocent Until they're taught to be violent, and militant This mentality gotta be erased by faith The 12th hour is comin, we're close to the 8th Get a chapter, and gain some knowledge If not from the Bible or Koran, get a book from college It's not about bein black or white It's about everybody bein a right I pulled out my mic, and the devil got hit hard He felt the power of God"-LL Cool J "Power Of God" yeah it's a shame how many people just want to stick to the G Unit and D12 bandwagons even though they suck with each song they make sounding worse and worse, people have bad taste in music these days! :damnlorettas:

I was just trying to find my last post to edit it but I'm gonna say this as my last post in this topic, no matter what anybody here says I'm sticking by what Kanye West said, 98% of black people feel this way so it's not just a trend, the government doesn't care about us and like Kanye says in "Jesus Walks": "We're at war with terrorism/racism", it might take you longer to realise this but one day you will, it goes beyond just statistics too since sometimes the media might change them so they could hold onto their jobs, you could see for yourself on TV how messed up it is, I don't need to see a stat sheet to tell me that this is caious and people are pissed about it, people of all color are frustrated right now, hey if somebody doesn't help you what are you supposed to do? Violence ain't the answer but you can't just lie down and die if nobody tries to help you, it's good to know that government is slowly gettin' their act together over the last day or so 'cause this could've lead to violence if it went on like this further, people have been dying by the minute and when you see people dying around you you won't be thinking clearly that's for damn sure, it's easy for us to say that now since we haven't experienced it for ourselves. I think this issue is bigger beyond what Kanye said, that's a small factor right now, they ignore the hip-hop community anyway but at least he gave an effort to show the streets that he does care he risked his career by even saying anything and they give him more respect for that now, he could've said something even more controversial but he kept his composure and I admire that but the main goal is to get everybody out of there safe as possible, hopefully the government learns something from this so they won't screw up if it happens again, peace!

Nice review, "Be"'s definately one of the best albums this year, I didn't like it that much at 1st but it's grown on me, I agree with you on the most part except for "Go" I'd give 7/10 and "Testify" 10/10, anyway nuff props for posting this homie! :thumbsup:

I hope "Lost and Found" makes the top 200 this week! :sipread:

It's all good homie! :lolsign:

:word: This is an embarassment for America bottomline 'cause we gotta put these money and resources to use that we have since we're a powerful country, no matter who you blame it all starts with the Bush administration 'cause they got the most power and there's no exuse about that, they're making us look weak, I got nomore to say about this 'cause words can't describe how frustrating this is.

I don't like none of them that much but hey at least Diddy's keepin' it real, he gave $1 million to help the victims of Hurricane Katrina, so what the f*** are you doing about it 50? I guess he'll never learn, he's a selfish fool! :damnlorettas:

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Is that necessary? Talkin' like that will get you banned, this is supposed to be an intelligent conversation, there's no need to sound that racist, I'm black and I got pride in myself but I also respect other races too as long as they respect me, but f*** the government that doesn't care about us, I agree wit what u said Cozmo D!

I'll take LL's 5 worst albums against all 5 Em albums if you count "Infinite" which his only above average before he made it big and sold out, he's a corporate puppet, sure I don't like Britney Spears either but I'm not gonna make a whole song dissin' her, what is that gonna prove? There's more important issues to be addressing than Britney Spears, at least she's better to look at too, lol. Probably since I'm black and if I diss Britiney Spears I'd catch a lot of heat for it and probably won't get airplay if I did do that hypothetically, there is prejudice in the music buisiness against artists that do say something to make a difference like Frenetic said: Now these lyrics right here are from a white rapper called Aesop Rock that got way more skills and heart on the mic but he doesn't get marketed, peep these lyrics from his song "Babies From Guns": Radio check check Video check check This is how the city-folk and mole-people connect-nect Somebody warped the message, tried to pass it to the next next Data-perforated counties making you upset-set Harvest all Brand-X Clark Kents to worm food Carbon heart, buried his nozzle in fossil marker art Pardon, cadaver had a legitimate pulse And littered volts all over the village where the skittish pigeons molt Bastard polter-gasps when the pigeon with Lazarus billy-goat whiskers He roasted sea-salt in the open blisters But blind anarchy slips through the cracks See naked martyrs with Bubblelicious on fishing rods itching to pull it back With that organic invention incubated to have some ?? to make it through ?? on paper now, a lot of details later And lot of crews will taper out A wooly mayor souse, who ?? happy shooting at the bladed mouth Bazooka Tooth zoo-keep the paper route with janky funds and favors Cradled by twelve empty Zelda heart containers Man, it's freezing in this brick bitch, winter forever Like Punxatawny Phil found with his four furry wrists severed I walk face-first through the sex, drugs, and church With wild things that make Maurice Sendak question his early works But no hostages, no promises Out the clock corporate constant sprockets Now clocked-off grommets Running from a rabid ring-wraith click basilisk Serpentine, in and out of traffic jam and murder scenes Scrub blood of the AF-152, pick up first degrees Some toddlers smuggled Tommy guns and crack into the nurseries Dog, there's a ****ing baby at the door asking for wallets (yeah?) And those ain't twin Beanie Babies inside his pockets (nope!) 2010 sonograms showed the Magnum formed directly out the fetus Evolution for the young killer convenience Radio check check Video check check This is how the city-folk and mole-people connect-nect Somebody warped the message, tried to pass it to the next next Data-perforated counties making you upset-set Magazine check check Paper route check check This is how the hermit and the busy bee connect-nect Somebody's losing track of their flesh-and-bloods and arrests-rests Polka-dotted landscapes, what did you expect-pect? Now a-days, even the babies got guns Diaper snipers having clock-tower fun Misplace the bottle, might catch a bad one Have a mid-life crisis when you're ten years young If this Jesus piece around your neck is bigger than your pistol It makes homicide okie-dokie and your god will forgive you Just show the saints at Heaven's gate you should be on the list "I heard he overlooks manslaughter for a tattooed crucifix" Twisty, fishy, contradicty, wild animal ship fleet Off the sliding board dock of the Mr. Turtle pool mom bought Somewhere they laminate dry bones and cool water and ease medulla After you thumb-suck and diaper-change get burped and shoot the school up I'd do it too, but only to exploit no-brainers Teenager beef passed alligator teeth and extra-curricular flagpole scrapping Amongst tadpoles that have yellow backbones De-mechanism brought airborne shrapnel scraps to hassle captains By the itchy index of an umbilically-garped fraggle baby Fragile maybe, you think? Chopped shop and a mislead, maladjustee trustee locked box Hiding clips that light the sky in seconds like newly communal hop-scotch gives them leverage Cut them with mortars while I mumble in the immortal slang of mushmouth for the anti-led Nirvana I used to think I'd get hit by a bus or something dumb and dumber That or bust the slugs plugged by the newest kiddie thug wonder Self-victim kings who rep a wide pride dosage For tomorrow the holsters are bound to outnumber the roaches I'm not a coach But that won't even jolt the immobile when global terrorism's all the rage and folk get smoked local Block, if you need me (yeah?) I had to bounce to DC (yeah?) To bullet-proof mom's flower garden before the war cheats me (yeah?) If I'm not back in a week tell the crew I said "peace" and lay low Strays don't vacate slow Radio check check Video check check This is how the city-folk and mole-people connect-nect Somebody warped the message, tried to pass it to the next next Data-perforated counties making you upset-set Magazine check check New flash check check This is how the hermit and the busy bee connect-nect Somebody's losing track of their flesh-and-bloods and arrests-rests Polka-dotted landscapes, what did you expect-pect? Now a-days, even the babies got guns Diaper snipers having clock-tower fun Misplace the bottle, might catch a bad one Have a mid-life crisis when you're ten years young Aboard the battleship grey sky The day I got the phone call Jam Master Jay died So now I'll probably never write another "Daylight" Because the stingers ?? a ?? into the portable hay-rides It adds it up when a pioneer fall, in comparison to your 99 bottle of beer wall There's banana peels in your hamster wheels, hand cannons in your shoebox, please Mine's got Adidas, rest in peace

Does quality get airplay? There's no way you could say "Gettin' Jiggy Wit It" displays Will's best rhyming skills even though it's his biggest hits, it's still good, but it ain't "Twinkle Twinkle" or "The Rain" great lyricism.

"Instinct leads me to another flow Everytime I hear a brother call a girl a bitch or a ho Trying to make a sister feel low You know all of that gots to go"-Queen Latifah "U.N.I.T.Y.", I'm hooked to "Black Reign" like a dope fiend Ja Rule ain't really that bad of an mc I agree with that, like Jay-Z he has his moments where he spits some dope lines.