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Chuck D wrote a song about Hurricane Katrina, I posted it in Caught In The Middle, I say Will should definately get Chuck D on the "Tell Me Why" remix now, we need 2 powerful voices getting together in times like these, in fact a better idea would be for Will to get together with a whole bunch of conscious rappers get together and record a song and donate the money to the victims of this tragic Hurricane and it could be called "Self Destruction 2005" 'cause this truly is a self-destruction here! :shake:

What's up y'all I found this song posted on PE.com in the Enemyboard that was inspired from Hurricane Katrina, he said he's planning on record it so check out for the audio y'all, this could bring PE back on the scene again! :chuks: : "My baddd ....i seem to read more post less, because i been in a 2 year whirl-wind of getting things geared for a 3-5 year run.....I was inspired to write it after talking to my father on the phone this morning as he was headed to SC..he was soooo pissed and cursing the SOB prez out about this...so its inspiration from my pops , no doubt. Wrote it in 45 minutes..., Working on it tonight." "HELL NO, WE AINT ALLRIGHT New Orleans in the morning, afternoon, and night Hell NO, we Aint Allright Now all these press conferences breakin news alerts this just in while your government looks for a war to win flames from the blame game, names? where do i begin? walls closin in get some help to my kin Who cares? while the rest of the bushnation stares as the drama unfolds as we the people under the stares 50% of this son of a bush nation is like hatin on haiti an settin up assasinations ask Pat Robertson- quiz him..... ...smells like terrorism. racism in the news still one sided news saying whites find food prey for the national guard ready to shoot cause them blacks loot New Orleans in the morning, afternoon, and night Hell NO, we Aint Allright Fires , earthquakes, tsunamis i dont mean to scare wasnt this written somewhere? disgraces all i see is black faces moved out to all these places emergency state corpses, alligators and snakes big difference between this haze and them diamonds on the VMAs we better look whats really important under this sun especially if you over 21 this aint no tv show this aint no video this is really real beyond them same ol 'keep it real' quotes from them Tv stars drivin big rim cars 'streets be floodin, 'b' no matter where you at, no gas driving is a luxury urgency state of emergency shows somebodys government is far from reality.... New Orleans in the morning, afternoon, and night Hell NO, we Aint Allright I see here we be the new faces of refugees who aint even overseas but here on our knees forget the plasma TV-aint no electricity new worlds upside down-and out of order shelter? food? wsssup, wheres the water? no answers from disaster them masses hurtin so who the fk we call?--Halliburton? son of a bush, how you gonna trust that cat? to fix sht when help is stuck in Iraq? makin war plans takin more stands in Afganistan 2000 soldiers dyin in the sand but thats over there, right? now what's over here is a noise so loud that some cant hear but on TV i can see bunches of people lookin just like me.. Chuck D/ Public Enemy September 2 2005 Terrordome Music Publishing, LLC. (BMI), administered by Reach Global, Inc"

:lolsign: Well the impact of "He's The DJ, I'm The Rapper" lead to the "Fresh Prince Of Bel-Air" but if you really wanna get technical Run-Dmc, Kurtis Blow, and LL Cool J were the 1st actors 'cause they did "Krush Groove" where they just played themselves but still they were the first ones. :stickpoke:

That's right the "Parents Just Don't Understand" video inspired "The Fresh Prince Of Bel-Air", that was groundbreaking, it opened the doors for LL's sitcom "In The House" to take off Turntable, as much as I love LL too I gotta admit that FP opened doors for him too but then again Will sampled LL on "Brand New Funk" so it's all love! :thumbsup:

That suit's probably worth a lot of money though 'cause "MIIB" was a huge movie, I hope it raises a lot to help them out, nice to hear Will giving back, this ain't a contest over what celebrity gives the most as long as they give something! :word:

I wouldn't mind Gangstarr went on tour with JJFP one day! :yeah:

The "He's The DJ, I'm The Rapper" track is one of the greatest battle songs of all-time, if Will makes another song like this with Jazzy he could end Eminem's career! :willvspaparazzi: I think only Rakim could contest with FP at that time. "Rhythm Trax-House Party Style" is game changing, it displays why Jazzy's the greatest DJ of all-time. I stand by saying that the punchlines in "He's The DJ, I'm The Rapper" are better than Eminem's punchlines throughout his whole career, I wonder why he'd consider opening his mouth in the 1st place to diss Will if he heard this when he growing up?! I think that's the reason why he's in rehab right now. :sick: 30 million+ sold and winning the first rap Grammy proves that Will really does own the whole rap industry! :word: : "My rhymes have been written, not to be bitten But as it seems, some suckers keep forgettin the rules about rappin, but that's alright Cause in the next five minutes I'ma have them all uptight Stronger than a dinosaur, better known than Santa Man -- the battles I battle, I usually win em in -- less than a minute, but it all depends on how long -- it takes you rappers to realize that tryin to defend yourself, is ridiculous Didn't you get my message inside of the question cause you're toys boys, I'm the Real McCoy I'm really gonna enjoy seein you destroyed If I was Fred Flintstone, I'd probably own all of Bedrock If I was a criminal I'd probably own a cellblock If I was in the Navy I would own the sea but I'm a +POET+ so I own the whole rap industry I'm like a lion my man, and the streets are my den It's either kill or be killed, so I kill I kill again and again and again The X amount of times, rappers I'll slaughter them I tie em up and throw them in the water then I'll just walk away like no-thin ever happened until somebody else starts rappin That's when I snap and I'll attack and go mad like Rambo or maybe like Commando, or like Lando Calrissian, cause you know he was down with the Force Fresh Prince is the source I feel no pain or remorse Think that you can beat me rappin man you must be silly Man I really really really really really really hate when people, doubt my ability And I have to prove superiority If rap was basketball, I would be in luck Cause everytime I freestyled it would be a slam dunk MAN, I'm the engineer, and you're the passangers Takin on a voyage, a hip-hop massacre The Jason of rap, Freddy Kruger of rhymin And I'm sure that you'll see in due time man People will run, to Philadelphia Pennsylvania to all join in, to this Fresh Prince mania My face in magazines, on your radio or stereo Everywhere you go, audio and video A hip-hop terrorist, war like vocalist Other rappers say, "Yo Prince why don't you show me this style now," you must be trippin It ain't no way in hell I'ma let you put your lip in my rhyme cause it's a timebomb, I'm not kiddin My rhyme explodes the second it gets bitten I'm quick and nimble, a status symbol I shop at Macy's now but I used to shop at Gimble's I'll, drop kick a hurricane, bodyslam a tidal wave Walk through a tornado, or a volcano But I'll be OK though And here's some more info that you rappers should know You are the bombs and I will defuse you I am the lawyer and I'm goin to accuse you of the ultimate rhyme crime, and you will be guilty There's no way that you'll ever ever defeat beat me rappin any time of day Pop so much trash, man I can't wait to be face to face, and hear Jeff say, "Sick 'em" Man you're gonna be my victim You better duck, and pray for good luck Chuck, cause you're stuck You're like a Thanksgiving turkey and it's time to be plucked I see you're nervous purpose that's how I now you're soft You're runnin round like a chicken with your head cut off But just relax my power to the max And I'm cuttin no slack on this rap track, Jack So back up, as if you got good sense OR FEEL THE FURY.. of the Prince! And ya don't stop Yo Jazzy, why don't you rock up the spots Yo Jazzy, hey Jeff I'm psyched, I'm psyched Give em a cut Jeff'

It's obvious that Will doesn't pay for people to write him good reviews like wack commercial rappers do! :stickpoke:

I thought I remember you making a post before about "Switch" being a good single? :stickpoke: :lolsign: I don't know if pop radio is gonna play this as much as "Switch" but I wouldn't be surprised if black radio gave it some, at this point Will could use all the street cred he could get, well it's not like 50's singles have substance either though. :willvspaparazzi:

The Bulls resigned Tyson Chandler for 6 years, I'm happy, they'll be playing Miami in Eastern Finals! :yeah: "Chandler, Bulls reach 6-year deal September 2, 2005 BY BRIAN HANLEY Staff Reporter Advertisement Tyson Chandler likely will be wearing a Bulls uniform for years to come after the 7-1 forward/center agreed to a long-term contract with the team Thursday night. "I'm ecstatic that this contract is done,'' Chandler said in a statement released by the team. "To know that I will be in Chicago for the next six years is definitely a dream. Since I've been in Chicago, the city has been my home, and it feels so good to go home.'' Chandler's six-year guaranteed deal is believed to be worth about $64 million, terms similar to the contract that the Philadelphia 76ers recently agreed to with Samuel Dalembert, 24, whose statistics compare to those of Chandler, 22. Chandler averaged eight points, 9.7 rebounds and 1.68 blocked shots last season. The Bulls likely sweetened the guaranteed money with incentive clauses that could increase the contract's value. "We've been fairly close for a week or so,'' general manager John Paxson said of his talks with agent Jeffrey Schwartz. "We just have to iron out some of the details, and it won't be official until Tyson passes his physical. But this is obviously great news for our team.'' Schwartz did not return a telephone message seeking comment, but in a statement released by the Bulls, he said: "This is the outcome we were working toward. Chicago is a great city, and John is taking the team in the right direction.'' Chandler, who was a restricted free agent, reportedly was hoping for more guaranteed money. But he was unable to coax another team into tendering an offer sheet, which the Bulls would have had the right to match. That gave the appearance that the Bulls had the leverage in contract talks. "The whole leverage thing, it's a difficult thing to gauge,'' Paxson told the Sun-Times on Tuesday. "I try not to even look at it like we have leverage because I want Tyson to be back here. "I've tried to look at this all along and say, 'We obviously value Tyson. We acknowledge that because of his size and athletic ability, he's a valuable player.' So I've approached the negotiations that way.'' Paxson's next priority is to re-sign center Eddy Curry, also a restricted free agent. Paxson met with agent Leon Rose on Tuesday to begin talks in earnest on a new contract. The deal likely would be for only one guaranteed year because of difficulties finding insurance for Curry, who was sidelined by an irregular heartbeat late last season. "We talked about if there was a way to do something,'' Paxson said Tuesday. "Again, we're just in the beginning stages of this thing. You look at how long this thing with Tyson [had] gone on, and Leon and I have just started on Eddy. There are a lot of issues to work through with Eddy.''

LL's the closest thing to FP, that's why he's one of my favorites, I think FP's a great battle rhymer too, I don't think there's many out there that could compete with him, he'd end Eminem's gimmick career if they battled for real the same way that LL knocked out Cannibus, I want him to release "Mr. Nice Guy" to get the battle started! :stickpoke:

I came up with a list of 25 albums that have impacted the industry either by selling a lot or were an influence to today's rappers like Big Daddy Kane, Kurtis Blow, Sugarhill Gang, and Grandmaster Flash and The Furious Five, most of them I listed are from the golden era but once ever other year or so now there's one or two albums that come out to keep the art of hip-hop alive on the scene: 25 Albums that've impacted the hip-hop industry (1980-1993, The Golden Era) Sugar Hill Gang “Sugar Hill Gang” Grandmaster Flash and Furious Five "The Message" Kurtis Blow “Kurtis Blow” Run-DMC “Raising Hell” BDP “Criminal Minded” Beastie Boys “Licensed To Ill” Eric B. and Rakim “Paid In Full” Jazzy Jeff and Fresh Prince “He's The DJ, I'm The Rapper” Slick Rick “The Great Adventures Of Slick Rick” NWA “Straight Outta Compton” Public Enemy “It Takes A Nation Of Millions To Hold Us Back” MC Hammer “Hammer Don't Hurt 'Em” LL Cool J “Mama Said Knock You Out” Ice Cube “Amerikka's Most Wanted” Dr. Dre “The Chronic” Queen Latifah “Black Reign” Big Daddy Kane “Long Live The Kane” (1994-2005, Post-Golden Era) Biggie “Ready To Die” Jay-Z “Volume 2: Hard Knock Life” Snoop Doggy Dogg “Doggystyle” Nas “It Was Written” DMX “It's Dark And Hell Is Hot” Wu-Tang Clan “Enter The 36 Chambers” Outkast “Stankonia” Honorable Mentions: Salt N Pepa “Very Necessary” and Big Pun “Capital Punishment”, Other Classics That Didn't Impact The Industry but have street cred and have sold at least a respectable 200,000: Nas "Illmatic", Jazzy Jeff and Fresh Prince "Code Red", LL Cool J "G.O.A.T.", Possibility Impact: Will Smith "Lost and Found"(If "Tell Me Why" comes out it could change the game)

What up y'all I've been digging through my book of rhymes and came across this song called "Personalities" I wrote about 3 years ago, check it out : "Personalties" Written By Big Ted Verse One: I shouldn't doubt who I am I should be proud of who I am I shouldn't let the world decide how I'm a man 'Cause not out for my benefit If I don't shout out a care in it I need to be showin' how I'm now winnin' When I don't hold myself back Measuring myself against what others done is wack I'm not trying to boast at all I'm just trying to hold on tall That's what my personality is made of I got that energy to stay up My plot is specifically built to play tough Even if I gain victory, others will still say stuff But I have to ignore that I can't hold back I ask myself: why do I keep rappin'? It's a task in itself, but maybe it's also a deep passion It's not about the cash or the wealth, if I had it Or not I'd see myself still keep rappin' I can't get weaker When I nod my head to the speaker I like the hardcore beats When I rhyme, my heart pumps more beats That's how I feel, you n'ah mean For me rap's real, it's my freedom of speech It's in my... Chorus: Personality We all have one Personality Is who we are and where we came from Personality I'm glad I have my own Personality Verse Two: Yo, it's hard 'cause of the propaganda Y'all try to be stars so the world will stand ya You can't see far with the ill demandings It's hard to find the will of understanding That you can't be who that person is You can find that to be hurting 'Cause you can't recognise that you're a unique person You don't have to compete with the other person You ain't gonna win all the time Nobody in the game's gonna win all the time You have to find what you're good at You can't hold your word bac You have to show the world your own stand On how you feel 'bout situations On how you deal around confrontations On how you're real now on demonstrations When you display your creation Represent your way to the nation Don't get afraid to be accepted Give your say and you'll be respected Do somethin' that your people will be proud of Doin' nothin' looks weaker, you got to be found tough We ain't all gonna be famous So it's important to know that there's other ways to get your say in Don't feel that your life is wasted Just be yourself, nobody can replace... [Repeat Chorus] Verse Three: As the years go on It's get more clear to roll on Ain't no time to fear, you gotta flow strong You watch time pass on And you see that you lose loved ones Due to the fact that time don't stand still Remember that time could run out, before all your plans are fullfilled You have to keep the good memories In order to be in the world surviving All the hurt comes rising It's important to hold on to what's positive A lot of nonsense makes everythin' far from positve You gotta make some sense to create some knowledge Even if you have money for college You can't worry 'bout it We ain't gonna all be millionaires It's more important to have the will to share And respect that we won't always agree Let's not bring violence into degree Let's stop the violence when we disagree There's too many people in this world That can be on my nerves Not everyone will like me And my personality I can't let 'em overwhelm me I don't wanna bring drama on my family And act around 'em all pissy That's wack and doesn't represent me Life's too short for me to change Into something that'll make me look strange I need to be myself and I'll be ok That's right, I love my...[Repeat Chorus]

Dizze Rascals`Album(!)s,The Albums of The Anti Pop Consortium(!) are veery original! ← They weren't popular though so they didn't impact the industry! ← Ofcourse they did..Just not the mainstream.. But i actualy didn`t mean that..You said after The Chronic there wasn something original..Well thats not true caus they where original! And if you want some exsamples from Mainstream Albums who where Original then listen to Beastie Boys Hello Nasty or The Wutang Clans 36 Chambers! ← I think the Beastie Boys' one album that changed the game was "Licensed To Ill" although "Hello Nasty" is a great album too, I never heard Wu-Tang Clan's "36 Chambers" but I'd say that they probably are the most original since '93, it's hard to think of anybody else no matter how dope they were! :damnyou: There was never a group out with so many rappers that has had the success that they've had even though there's Hieroglyphics but I think that hip-hop magazines would list "36 Chambers" higher than "'93 Till Infinity", just like there's no DJ-MC duo like JJFP that has had a lot of success although there's Gangstarr and Pete Rock and CL Smooth that was obviously influenced but they never had JJFP success but have a lot of street credability in the hip-hop circle but wouldn't get ranked as high as JJFP are on mainstream hip-hop lists, I think Busta Rhymes reminds me of Will Smith too 'cause his videos are animated and he's a great performer, he might be a step above everybody recently too when it comes to being innovative, a lot of double albums have been made but I'd say only 'All Eyez On Me' could compete with the strength of "He's The DJ, I'm The Rapper", I think "Street's Disciple" and "Blueprint 2: Gift and Curse" have their down moments, the "Speakerboxx/Love Below" might be the most successful one but it's nowhere near as good as "He's The DJ, I'm The Rapper" and there's other better Outkast albums too it was like their "Big Willie Style" that got them more suburban fans.

If Jazzy Jeff produces the entire next album for Will I think it could sound innovative, Jazzy's beats are always a refreshing sound and a step above everyone else that produces! :yeah: btw, I think a lot of the beats on "BE" were boring, I think Common's flow was the only thing that kept the album entertaining, he should get Questlove and DJ Premiere and quit ****ing with Kanye. I think that R. Kelly's "Happy People/U Saved Me" might be the most creative album of R. Kelly's career, he's gone back to the basics now on "TP3.com" which is great but it's not as creative as "Happy People/U Saved Me", I think Outkast's "Speakerboxx/Love Below" was pretty creative too even though that was '03 but I think Andre 3000 went too left field on his, Big Boi had too many guests, damn how many albums do Snoop and Jay-Z have to jump on? :lolsign: That kept it from being a great double album but I do give them points for attempting to be innovative.

I think Queen Latifah and MC Lyte could beat both Eminem and 50 Cent in a lyrical battle, I don't think Em and 50 Cent have much credibility in the streets anymore either, from they did when they were underground but once they blew up they started to lose it and now with their recent albums it's all gone due to their publicity stunts, I think "Big Willie Style" even has more street credibility than "The Massacre" and "Encore" of course it's easily better too, even "Born To Reign" and "And In This Corner..." are also better than those albums too which I think are Will's worst albums which are still good but those 2 albums from Em and 50 make them ranked among the worst of all time, they've hit rock bottom, I think even Bow Wow could take them out now. :stickpoke: Queen Latifah's "Black Reign"'s better than anything Eminem has ever done in his career, her rhymes are very complex on that album too and she got a more aggressive flow, she's the female version of Will Smith since she got the rap game and Hollywood on lock I think she could drop a hit album tomorrow if she wants to easily, when you think of the best career in female rappers you think Queen Latifah although Salt-N-Pepa won a Grammy for "Very Neccessary" which is a great album with a lot dope songs on there but I think Queen Latifah's a better all around lyricist she got the complex rhymes and she makes great songs plus Salt-N-Pepa ain't around anymore, Foxy Brown's 1st album "Ill Na Na" was classic and her last album "Broken Silence" is very good too but it's no "Black Reign", I haven't really heard too much from MC Lyte I gotta get some albums from her but I'd say that verse on "Who Am I" and a few other songs I heard her rap on the radio are better than anything 50 has done, btw what album should I get from her? As I think about it I can't say Big Pun impacted the industry much either since Fat Joe's the only other latin rapper to hit platinum, it's just like there ain't an army of white rappers on the scene 'cause Em blew up and Pun's career was cut too short to know if he'd be still on same level as Jay-Z and Nas.

I think you got me wrong..Those are great Album but LL`s or De La Souls or even Will`s Album arent fresh..They`r great but they arent fresh or inovatif i think! ← Yeah I think those albums just reinforce them as great mcs, I might read into the topic wrong, I honestly can't think of too many innovative albums lately, I definately agree with you that Beastie Boys have much more of an innovative sound than Kanye does, they're one of the greatest groups ever along with Run-DMC, PE, De La Soul, and Tribe Called Quest, Kanye's just one of the better ones now but not all time.

Yeah I think the track enough is gonna win a lot of credablity in hip-hop for Will, it'll be interesting to see if it hits as big to the public audience like "Switch" did though, it's been rising slower than "Switch" did in its few weeks, it might get some spins on black radio and maybe a lil' less on pop radio so it might get a lower chart position, I think it could hit the top 20, I think the video'll get more airplay too though.

Dizze Rascals`Album(!)s,The Albums of The Anti Pop Consortium(!) are veery original! ← They weren't popular though so they didn't impact the industry, Jay-Z and Nas are the top mcs out now but they're doing the same things Rakim and Big Daddy Kane did before them not that I'm saying they ain't great but they just ain't Rakim or Big Daddy Kane, a lot of the most popular rappers are basically doing what's been done before except they're both more popular than they ever were, Fugees brought back the Tribe Called Quest sound except they were also more popular than Tribe Called Quest, Biggie and Pac sorta done what Kool G Rap and Scarface did before them too but they were also more popular. Now "He's The DJ, I'm The Rapper" was the type of album that had credability in both the suburbs and the streets and so was "Homebase" and "Willenium" but they didn't have the impact that "He's The DJ..." had since JJFP were on the scene already, "Code Red" had street credability but it wasn't huge in the suburbs and so did "Rock The House", "Lost and Found"'s the same way it's gotten Will's street cred back but it isn't winning over much of the public audience the way "Big Willie Style" but that didn't have street credability, "He's The DJ, I'm The Rapper" is the most universal JJFP album even though it didn't sell 12 million, it had a huge audience in the streets and the suburbs and I think it's important to have both 'cause hip-hop is universal, Nas sorta only has street credibility, Jay-Z has street credibility and a commercial audience so I could understand why MTV might rank Jay-Z ahead of Nas 'cause we see Jay-Z videos more and that's why they rank LL ahead of KRS. I love "Radio" too but I think Will had just as much skills as LL did at that time too when he was 16 but I think the one LL album that impacted the industry the most was "Mama Said Knock You Out" since it was a more advanced style of LL's maturity and lyrically too it was a step above "Radio" and won a Grammy for best rap album! :word: I think LL's skills were about the same as FP's then when they were 16, Rakim was a step above both of them lyrically but he wasn't as good of a storyteller like FP or passionate as LL, he was just a straight lyricist, Big Daddy Kane was too but he wasn't popular as any of them, it's hard to compare them 'cause they're all legends, it depends who you're a fan of more. Why doesn't Big Pun get any love? He was the 1st latin rapper to release a platinum album with "Capital Punishment", he was just as dope of a lyricist as Jay-Z and Nas were at that time too, if he were still living he'd be ranked right up with them as the top lyricist out now, this is only once in a career thing to have an album to change the game, I don't think "He's The DJ, I'm The Rapper"'ll be outdone by JJFP no matter what they do, Public Enemy could never outdo the impact of "It Takes A Nation Of Millions..." either no matter how many more classics they'll drop.

Here's some of my fav. r&b albums since '04: Brandy "Afrodisiac" Brian Mcknight "Gemini" Mariah Carey "Emancipation Of Mimi" Boyz II Men "Throwback Vol. 1" Alicia Keys "Diary Of Alicia Keys" Jill Scott "Beautifully Human: Words and Sounds Vol. 2"

8, it was missing Jazzy Jeff and Ludacris and I've seen better videos from Will before, it's still the best video I've seen recently and I think it could be huge, the more I see it the more it might grow on me giving it a higher rating.

Here's Questlove's quote from the August 2003 issue of VIBE with Ludacris on the cover, he's old enough to know that "He's The DJ, I'm The Rapper" was a double album :stickpoke: : "Man I can't remember a summer in which I copped so many classics in a 12-week period. How many times did we rewind Public Enemy's 'Night Of The Living Baseheads'? The music that summer was jaw dropping. Will Smith and Jazzy Jeff did Philly proud by dropping a double album full of wit, skits, and turntable genius. And I ain't even gonna start on NWA." The truth is if it wasn't for everyone back then in the golden era the hip-hop industry wouldn't be where it is today, it was a collection of albums that changed the game whether you hate those albums or love them, "He's The DJ..." is the one album that impacted the most in JJFP's career, you could argue that "Code Red" and "Lost and Found" might be better but they didn't have that type of impact for JJFP, it was the one album that started their careers and boosted hip-hop to a higher level at the same time, everyone had their own styles too, hip-hop is too one dimensional now so the game now is changed for the worst, "The Chronic" was the beginning of the demise when it comes to hip-hop creativity, it's the last original one in my opinion, sure there's been classics since but not really original anymore.

Well other than "Lost and Found", I'd say Nas' "Street's Disciple", Common's "Be", LL's "The Definition", KRS-ONE's "Keep Right", and De La Soul's "The Grind Date" are all the best albums since '04 till now.

A lot of music consumers have a short memory about artists, you have to constantly display yourself through each album you do, especially 3 years after his last one that flopped, that's decades apart in the average consumer's mind, so for this album to do so well with such poor promotion is even more amazing.

Here's more details: Eric Gay/AP Photo National Guard Troops Land in New Orleans By ALLEN G. BREED Associated Press Writer NEW ORLEANS - Ragtag armies of the desperate and hungry begged for help, corpses rotted along flooded sidewalks and bands of armed thugs thwarted fitful rescue efforts as Americans watched the Big Easy dissolve before their eyes. Despite the promise of 1,400 National Guardsmen a day to stop the looting, a $10.5 billion recovery bill in Congress and a relief effort President Bush called the biggest in U.S. history, the chaos spred. "This is a national disgrace," said New Orleans' emergency operations chief Terry Ebbert. "We can send massive amounts of aid to tsunami victims, but we can't bail out the city of New Orleans." At the hot and stinking Superdome, where tens of thousands were being evacuated by bus to Houston, fistfights and fires erupted amid a seething sea of tense, suffering people who waited in a lines that stretched a half-mile to board yellow school buses. After a traffic jam kept buses from arriving for nearly four hours, a near-riot broke out in the scramble to get on to the buses that finally did show up, with a group of refugees breaking through a line of heavily armed National Guardsmen. Nearby, about 15,000 to 20,000 people who had taken shelter at New Orleans Convention Center grew ever more hostile after waiting for buses for days amid the filth and the dead. Police Chief Eddie Compass said there was such a crush around a squad of 88 officers that they retreated when they went in to check out reports of assaults. "We have individuals who are getting raped, we have individuals who are getting beaten," Compass said. "Tourists are walking in that direction and they are getting preyed upon." Gov. Kathleen Blanco called people who committed such crimes "hoodlums" and issued a warning to lawbreakers: Hundreds of National Guard troops hardened on the battlefield in Iraq have landed in New Orleans. "They have M-16s and they're locked and loaded," she said. "These troops know how to shoot and kill, and they are more than willing to do so, and I expect they will." Bush was to tour the devastated Gulf Coast region Friday and has asked his father, former President George H.W. Bush, and former President Clinton to lead a private fund-raising campaign. By Thursday evening, 11 hours after the military began evacuating the Superdome, the arena held 10,000 more people than it did at dawn. Evacuees from across the city swelled the crowd to about 30,000 because they believed the arena was the best place to get a ride out of town. Some of those among the mostly poor crowd had been in the dome for four days without air conditioning, working toilets or a place to bathe. One military policeman was shot in the leg as he and a man scuffled for the MP's rifle. The man was arrested. By late Thursday, the flow of refugees to the Houston Astrodome was temporarily halted with a population of 11,325, less than half the estimated 23,000 people expected. Texas Gov. Rick Perry announced that Dallas would host 25,000 more refugees at Reunion Arena and 25,000 others would relocate to a San Antonio warehouse at KellyUSA, a city-owned complex that once was home to an Air Force base. Houston estimated as many as 55,000 people who fled the hurricane were staying in area hotels While floodwaters in New Orleans appeared to stabilize, efforts continued to plug three breaches that had opened up in the levee system that protects this below-sea-level city. Helicopters dropped sandbags into the breach and pilings were being pounded into the mouth of the canal Thursday to close its connection to Lake Pontchartrain. At least seven bodies were scattered outside the convention center, a makeshift staging area for those rescued from rooftops, attics and highways. The sidewalks were packed with people without food, water or medical care, and with no sign of law enforcement. A military helicopter tried to land at the convention center several times to drop off food and water. But the rushing crowd forced the choppers to back off. Troopers then tossed the supplies to the crowd from 10 feet off the ground and flew away. "There's a lot of very sick people - elderly ones, infirm ones - who can't stand this heat, and there's a lot of children who don't have water and basic necessities to survive on," said Daniel Edwards outside the center. "We need to eat, or drink water at the very least." An old man in a chaise lounge lay dead in a grassy median as hungry babies wailed around him. Around the corner, an elderly woman lay dead in her wheelchair, covered up by a blanket, and another body lay beside her wrapped in a sheet. "I don't treat my dog like that," 47-year-old Daniel Edwards said as he pointed at the woman in the wheelchair. "You can do everything for other countries, but you can't do nothing for your own people." FEMA director Michael Brown said the agency just learned about the situation at the convention center Thursday and quickly scrambled to provide food, water and medical care and remove the corpses. In hopes of defusing the situation at the convention center, Mayor Ray Nagin gave the evacuees permission to march across a bridge to the city's unflooded west bank for whatever relief they could find. A day after Nagin took 1,500 police officers off search-and-rescue duty to try to restore order in the streets, there were continued reports of looting, shootings, gunfire and carjackings. Tourist Debbie Durso of Washington, Mich., said she asked a police officer for assistance and his response was, "'Go to hell - it's every man for himself.'" FEMA officials said some operations had to be suspended in areas where gunfire has broken out, but are working overtime to feed people and restore order. Outside a looted Rite-Aid drugstore, some people were anxious to show they needed what they were taking. A gray-haired man who would not give his name pulled up his T-shirt to show a surgery scar and explained that he needs pads for incontinence. "I'm a Christian," he said. "I feel bad going in there." Hospitals struggled to evacuate critically ill patients who were dying for lack of oxygen, insulin or intravenous fluids. But when some hospitals try to airlift patients, Coast Guard Lt. Cmdr. Cheri Ben-Iesan said, "there are people just taking potshots at police and at helicopters, telling them, `You better come get my family.'" To make matters worse, the chief of the Louisiana State Police said he heard of numerous instances of New Orleans police officers - many of whom from flooded areas - turning in their badges. "They indicated that they had lost everything and didn't feel that it was worth them going back to take fire from looters and losing their lives," Col. Henry Whitehorn said. Mississippi's confirmed death toll from Katrina rose to 126 on Thursday as more rescue teams spread out into a sea of rubble to search for the living, their efforts complicated at one point by the threat of a thunderstorm. All along the 90-mile coast, other emergency workers performed the grisly task of retrieving corpses, some of them lying on streets and amid the ruins of obliterated homes that stretch back blocks from the beach. Adding to the misery were tons of rotting shrimp and chicken, blown from their containers at a shipping dock and dumped into the water and onto the tattered landscape. Gov. Haley Barbour said he knows people are tired, hungry, dirty and scared - particularly in areas hardest hit by Katrina. He said the state faces a long and expensive recovery process. "I will say, sometimes I'm scared, too," Barbour said during a briefing in Jackson, Miss. "But we are going to hitch up our britches. We're going to get this done." ____ Associated Press reporters Adam Nossiter, Brett Martel, Emily Wagster Pettus, Robert Tanner and Mary Foster contributed to this report.