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"Leading blacks label Bush a disaster http://www.nydailynews.com/front/story/344397p-293973c.html Katrina's deluge may be draining, but the tide of African-American resentment toward President Bush seems higher than ever. "Bush is a travesty," Magic Johnson told us yesterday at the Rev. Al Sharpton's Dream Keepers Luncheon in Beverly Hills. "The White House let us all down - both blacks and whites." "Hotel Rwanda" star Don Cheadle admitted that "the dogs are piling on the President." But, the Oscar nominee added, "I'm cool with it. I'm one more on the dog pile. How Bush handled this was an embarrassment." "Bush sat there and fiddled in Crawford while New Orleans drowned," Sharpton said. "If someone had told him that it was heading to West Palm Beach, Fla., he would have stopped everything." Def Jam chief Jay-Z told us yesterday he "100% supported" his hitmaker Kanye West, who shocked NBC execs Friday when he declared on a network telethon: "George Bush doesn't care about black people." "When you're the commander in chief, you're responsible," Jay said from London, where he picked up British GQ's International Man of the Year Award (while denying reports that he just slipped an engagement ring on Beyoncé's finger). "Maybe it's the mayor or the governor to blame. But when you are the boss, it comes down on you." Sean Combs, who flew to New Orleans yesterday, barely made it onto the same NBC broadcast. Producers, who didn't expect him, were making room in their lineup just as Kanye walked offstage. Hearing his Bush blast, Diddy told the fellow rapper: "Now they're definitely not going to let me go out there!" P.S. The Neville Brothers, Elton John, Lenny Kravitz, Bette Midler and Rod Stewart will headline a New Orleans benefit concert at Madison Square Garden Sept. 20. They'll be joined by Big Easy legend Fats Domino, who was rescued from his home by boat." Jay-Z makes a great point in there, sure the mayor or governor of New Orleans could be blamed some but Bush is supposed to be the biggest leader of them all so he deserves most of the blame.

"You're my heart, you're my soul You got so much control My love runs deeper than the ocean and sea But if you sail away, you take the center piece of me"-Blackstreet "Don't Leave Me"

Happy B-Day! :yeah: :yeah: :yeah:

"Feet planted on deep black firmament Bow -- in the presence of who lead rap permanent Like a lion rap rips a chunk of kids You stunk, cause mortals ain't **** to conquer Somebody said new pharoahes have appeared How when everything I wore ten years ago you wear now? I coulda murder heard a word out quick Rick stomp it kid Hung to it, you complete bum to Rick"-Slick Rick "I Own America"

Lil' Kim doesn't even do many good verses, let alone many good songs, so how could she all of a sudden do a classic album? How many people did she sleep with to write songs for her? :lolsign: The verse that Jean Grae did on "Black Girl Pain" is better than Lil' Kim's whole career! I don't think hell has frozen over yet! :shrug:

Well I guess they only wanna attract 12 year olds to watch them!

I wonder if "Party Starter"'s too smart for BET? It still ain't on the list to be on 106 & Park when it's been 2 days already since they premiered it on there, they usually put 50 Cent videos on the list for you to vote the minute it gets premiered.

If "Lost and Found" goes platinum, he'll probably say that he started Will's career, it wouldn't surprise me if he did say that 'cause of all the stupid things he says, Kanye should finish 50 off, he's worked hard to get where he's at, 50 had nothin' to do with it. :mad:

-------------------------------------------------------------------------------- With Little Brother's The Minstrel Show hitting stores next week, SOHH.com has heard BET is refusing to air the album's first video, "Lovin' It" because it is "too intelligent for the BET audience." The video begins with a delivery truck dropping boxes labeled "gangsta," "backpackers," "earthy" and "icy" onto a street. The rest of the clip mostly sees LB and Joe Scudda, who is also featured on the song, performing in front of a capacity crowd. The clip also pokes fun at the Hip-Hop subgenres by depicting overly exaggerated backpackers and gangtas characters in the audience. "Lovin' It" also jokingly features typical scenes with Big Pooh sitting next to champagne-sipping models in the venue's VIP section while LB's entourage pop bottles. The video concludes with a car running through the boxes dropped on the street earlier. The statement of the video being "too intelligent for the BET audiece" was discussed recently on Columbia University's college radio station, 89.9 hosted by Timmhotep Aku. Aku says this statement was made verbatim by the program director from BET to one of the Atlantic records label reps. SOHH.com contacted several officials at BET, including their vice president Stephen Hill, their program director, and publicist, Michael Llewellen who offered this response. "It's not true, not in that context. BET reserves the right to show or not to show music videos of any type based on the network's own standards and decision-making processes," Llewellyn told SOHH.com. When questioned further as to whether the words "too intelligent for the BET audience" was used, Llewellen did not respond. Atlantic Records has refused to comment. The LB incident doesn't mark the first time BET has allegedly banned underground artists from its video rotation. In December 2004, SOHH.com reported that BET snubbed De La Soul's "Shopping Bags" video and The Beatnuts' "Find Us (In the Back of the Club)" clip featuring Akon. In a meeting with BET heads, De La reportedly said BET told them they "weren't relevant to the BET audience" while The Beatnuts were told that "BET doesn't break new artists." The Beatnuts had previously garnered heavy rotation for videos like "Off The Books" from 1997's Stone Crazy, "Watch Out Now" from 1999's A Musical Massacre and "No Escapin This" off 2001's Take It or Squeeze It. The network has also been under fire from the black community for cutting its news coverage to make room for more videos in the past few years. Recently, the community has been frustrated with BET for its failure to cover the Hurricane Katrina's crisis. Little Brother's The Minstrel Show featuring "Lovin' It" hits stores September 13th. http://www.sohh.com/images/icons/end_story.gif

Well the only thing I know about you 50 is that your whole career is based on being a 2Pac wannabe and putting out crappy music ever since you were shot 9 times and you talk about every rapper like you're a rap god that started it all, wait till you runs your mouth about KRS, Rakim, FP, or LL, your career will be over. :paperbag: I'm surprised he hasn't dissed Chuck D yet, it's obvious that he ain't computer literate or maybe since he only disses famous people out on the charts now like Eminem does, 'cause Chuck D has written quite a few things criticising 50 Cent on publicenemy.com's terrordomes.

I actually tried watching TRL the past few days to see if they would debut it but it was like sitting through nothing! :mad:

I think 50 Cent is scared that Kanye might outsell him! :gettinjiggywitit: :lolsign: :stickpoke:

They gotta re-release all the JJFP albums, especially the rare "Rock The House", when I get some money up I'm gonna get all the Run-Dmc albums remastered, I got "Raising Hell" and "Tougher Than Leather" but I'll probably rebuy them again too since they're collectors items from the greatest rap group ever.

Rev. Run's album comes out October 18th, I saw it listed over on amazon.com to release that date.

Hey I forgot to mention Da Brat and Left Eye too, they'd be in the same category as Foxy Brown and Eve, let's not sleep on Roxanee Chante either from the legendary Juice Crew, Jean Grae released an album through okayplayer last fall I think and was on the song "Black Girl Pain" with Talib Kweli on "The Beautiful Struggle", that's how I got interested in her.

So what's everyone's opinion on this? "Sept. 11 Recovery Loans Loosely Managed By DIRK LAMMERS and FRANK BASS Associated Press Writers The government's $5 billion effort to help small businesses recover from the Sept. 11 attacks was so loosely managed that it gave low-interest loans to companies that didn't need terrorism relief - or even know they were getting it, The Associated Press has found. And while some at New York's Ground Zero couldn't get assistance they desperately sought, companies far removed from the devastation - a South Dakota country radio station, a Virgin Islands perfume shop, a Utah dog boutique and more than 100 Dunkin' Donuts and Subway sandwich shops - had no problem winning the government-guaranteed loans. Dentists and chiropractors in numerous cities, as well as an Oregon winery that sold trendy pinot noir to New York City restaurants also got assistance. "That's scary. Nine-11 had nothing to do with this," said James Munsey, a Virginia entrepreneur who described himself as "beyond shocked" to learn his nearly $1 million loan to buy a special events company in Richmond was drawn from the Sept. 11 program. "It would have been inappropriate for me to take this kind of loan," he said, noting that the company he bought suffered no ill effects from Sept. 11. Arvind "Andy" Patel, 50, said he used his $350,000 loan in fall 2002 to remodel his Dunkin' Donuts shop in western New York state and never knew it was drawn through the Sept. 11 program. "Not at all," Patel answered, when asked whether his business had been hurt by the attacks. Government officials said they believe banks assigned some loans to the terror relief program without telling borrowers. Neither the government nor its participating banks said they could provide figures on how many businesses got loans that way. But AP's nationwide investigation located businesses in dozens of states who said they did not know their loans were drawn from the Sept. 11 programs, suggesting at least hundreds of millions of dollars went to unwitting recipients. The Small Business Administration, which administered the two programs that doled out Sept. 11 recovery loans, said it first learned of the problems through AP's review and was weighing whether an investigation was needed. But officials also acknowledged they intended to spread the post-Sept. 11 aid broadly because so many unexpected industries were hurt. "We started seeing business (needing help) in areas you wouldn't think of - tourism, crop dusting, trade and transportation. ... So there were a lot of examples you wouldn't think of, at first blush," SBA Administrator Hector Barreto told AP. In all, the government provided, approved or guaranteed nearly $4.9 billion in loans, and took credit for saving 20,000 jobs. That would put the average cost of saving a job at about a quarter million dollars each. Of the 19,000 loans approved by the two programs, fewer than 11 percent went to companies in New York City and Washington, according to an AP computer analysis of loan records obtained under the Freedom of Information Act. "I had nothing here," said Shirla Yam, who runs a clothing store in the former shadows of the twin towers that got a $20,000 grant from a local advocacy group but no federal aid after Sept. 11. "I don't know if I'll be here next month." Under one of the programs, SBA lent money directly to companies that provided detailed statements on how they were hurt. The other program provided incentives - and guaranteed loans from default - so banks could lend money to companies they determined were hurt by the post-Sept. 11 economic downturn. Most loans were well below market rates - as low as 4 percent, documents show. SBA officials acknowledged the second program, the Supplementary Terrorism Activity Relief (STAR), left banks on an honor system to determine worthy loan recipients. "One lender could have been really strict and specific about the borrower providing the documentation to prove that they were affected by the Sept. 11 attacks, and another banker may not have, or may have had ulterior motives for approving loans," said SBA spokeswoman Carol Chastang. SBA documents obtained by AP show banks had a strong incentive to approve as many loans as possible from the terror program. The banks profited from the interest while incurring little risk because the government guaranteed 75 percent to 85 percent of each loan. And the annual fee the lenders paid to SBA to get the government guarantee was slashed from 0.5 percent to 0.25 percent - meaning lenders saved an additional $5,000 a year for every $2 million they loaned under STAR. "There was definitely an advantage to the lender to get that reduced fee," said Christopher Chavez, an SBA official in Colorado. He said he suspects lenders might not always have talked to businesses about damage from Sept. 11 before moving loans into STAR. While SBA officials expressed surprise at AP's findings, banking officials said the agency encouraged the industry to use the post-Sept. 11 programs liberally, especially when its normal guaranteed lending program was hit by steep budget cuts in 2002. "They had personnel at our conference stand up and say if you cannot find a reason to move the loan over to the STAR program, contact us and we'll help you find a reason to move it over," recalled Tony Wilkinson, president of the National Association of Government Guaranteed Lenders. Major lenders like Wachovia and Wells Fargo declined to say how many loans they shifted into the terror relief program, saying only that they followed the law. Wells Fargo, the nation's second largest SBA lender, said the STAR program enabled lenders "to provide funds to new and mature businesses impacted by 9/11" and the bank "continues to strictly adhere to SBA operational standards for all SBA loan originations." Many loans went to local outlets of some of America's most famous and lucrative companies. For instance, 55 Dunkin' Donuts shops across the country, 14 Quiznos sandwich shops and 52 Subway sandwich shops got loans. Fourteen Dairy Queens - part of the ice cream franchise partly owned by Wall Street billionaire Warren Buffett - won more than $5 million in loans. "I just applied for the loan at the bank. I had no idea where the funds came from," said Tom Mayl, who got two SBA Sept. 11 loans totaling more than $800,000 to open a Subway shop in suburban Dayton, Ohio, and a Buffalo Wild Wings restaurant in Sidney, Ohio. "It doesn't seem right, just on the surface, but I really don't know the details," Mayl said. Don Robinson said he too didn't need or ask for terrorism relief when he got a $765,000 government-backed loan in 2003 - drawn without his knowledge from the Sept. 11 program - to start a motorcycle shop in Brigham City, Utah. "Actually, the motorcycle industry grew after 9/11," Robinson said. "People just took their money out of the stock market to buy toys." Dentists and chiropractors also were frequent, but unwitting, beneficiaries. "They weren't putting their health second to anything else," chiropractor Colby Shores said of his patients in the suburbs of Rochester, N.Y. He was unaware his $87,000 loan with a 4 percent interest rate came from the terror relief program. The loan patterns uncovered by AP left some seething in the neighborhoods directly scarred by Sept. 11. "You have to take it back and give it to us. Even now, I could use it," said Mike Yagudayev, who said the SBA would only provide him $20,000 of a $70,000 loan he requested to rebuild his hair salon flattened by the collapse of World Trade Center towers in New York. "I said, `You know what, take it back. Twenty thousand is like an insult,'" he recalled. Thousands of businesses far from the devastation had no trouble getting SBA loans, simply submitting short applications that linked their slow business to the widespread economic fallout caused by Sept. 11. For instance: _Karl Grimmelmann, general manager of KBFS-AM "Hit Kickin' Country" in Belle Fourche, S.D., borrowed $135,000 from SBA's disaster program after learning about it from a news release. He said his station was forced to pay more money to cover national news and also lost advertisers. "Everybody started holding onto their money, plain and simple," he said. _Margie Olson, co-owner of the Torii Mor Winery in McMinnville, Ore., said her business needed a $125,000 loan because it couldn't sell high-end pinot noir to Manhattan restaurants that had closed. "Everyone started hitting the heavy stuff," Olson said, laughing. _Melva Kravitz, co-owner of the Little Dogs Resort & Salon in Salt Lake City that offers boarding and grooming services for small dogs, said people stopped taking vacations and boarding their pets after Sept. 11, requiring her $50,000 loan. "It was awful," she said. "You just couldn't go on." _Christine Hilty, co-owner of Violettes Boutique on St. Croix in the U.S. Virgin Islands, said the perfume shop lost 60 percent of its business overnight as tourism stopped. She got a $169,500 loan from SBA. "Would we have closed our doors? It was close," she said. "Everyone was afraid to get on a plane. Tourism was totally halted." Though the loan programs have ended, the government is inheriting a residual burden. Already, taxpayers have been forced to cover about 600 defaulted disaster loans - some approaching $1 million each - from companies that went bankrupt or closed. More defaults are expected. Jim Hammersley, who runs the SBA's collection arm, said many applicants asked for too much or too little money to keep their businesses afloat. "The folks that were dealing with the aftermath of 9/11 didn't have anything that certain to try and gauge whether they needed money or how much they needed," he said. ___ AP Writers Paul Foy in Utah, Amy Westfeldt and Ben Dobbins in New York, Steve Paulsen in Colorado, Carrie Spencer in Ohio and Stephanie Stoughton in Virginia contributed to this story. On the Net: SBA: http://www.sba.gov

I thought that was an embarassment that Eminem won an Oscar for "Lose Yourself", sure it's the only good song he's made in recent years(actually more interesting than the movie, lol) but that wasn't Oscar worthy material, that's disrespectful for anyone that's ever won one, I mean if they have that win "Men In Black" and "Wild Wild West" shoulda won Oscars! :mad:

Yeah, it sucks. If radio had been playing good music all along, people would have no problem comprehending it. People would actually like it too. I think this song should definitely get a lot more airplay, so people can start understanding what true hip hop is. But who knows what will happen... ← Well maybe that's why a lot of true hip-hop heads like us don't like radio, I mean if they played something I like, I'd listen more often. :1-say-yes:

What label is left to go to? It's like pick your poison when you ain't trying to be a corporate gimmick, the only reason why 50 Cent and Eminem sell so much and the label puts so much into promoting them is that they do what Jimmy Iovine tells them to do, their sales don't decline 'cause they stick with Jimmy Iovine's formula and there albums all have the same concept to them that the kids just can't get enough of, Will wants to do his own thing and Interscope probably doesn't like that, just like Columbia too, they didn't like it when Will wanted made an ol' school rap album in "Willenium" so they didn't promote it the way they did "Big Willie Style" which seemed to be more influenced by Tommy Mottola than it was Will Smith, and they totally abandoned Will when he did "Born To Reign" which was experimental but could've gone platinum with the right promotion too, it's all a buisiness, Will was coming off of "Code Red"'s lackluster sales so he had to make it more radio friendly in '97 or else he wouldn't have got the deal to Columbia in the 1st place, it was just like when Jay-Z got picked up by Def Jam they had him to do something radio friendly so he could start selling too after lackluster sales of "Reasonable Doubt", I could at least say that it was good that Interscope let him do "Lost and Found" the way he wanted to do it, even though they ain't promoting it! :shrug: I got a good laugh outta this one though! :lolsign:

"If lyrics sold then truth be told I'll probably be just as rich and famous as Jay-Z Truthfully I wanna rhyme like Common sense Next best thing I do a record with Common sense Cause its the music, its blues, its jazz, its acoustics Soul, rock and roll the hip hop we be producing yea"-Talib Kweli "Ghetto Show"

Rastafarians of today are a bit different than they once were, there are white Rastas. ← Well if there are white rastas then it ain't that bad then what Common said, phew, lol. :davidblaine:

Maybe ATL is showin' more love to "Party Starter" 'cause Luda produced it too! I think Luda's album is aight but nothin' spectacular and Eminem's album is trash so I don't think to use them as reference in comparing "Lost and Found" sales is irrelevant, this album is not that marketable 'cause it's miles ahead of the rap industry for the average commercial rap fan to be interested, this ain't as commercial friendly as "Big Willie Style".

I just checked the voting list at BET.com and still don't see it mentioned, usually they put the new video on the list right away, I guess it won't be in the top 10 today if they don't put it on there soon for us to start voting! :hmm:

Y'all heard of Jean Graye? I think she could be the next Lauryn Hill!

Probably all the teeny boppers that went to see "8 Mile" will see this one too, I don't care, I wish these kids could come to their senses too and grow up to some good music! :damnlorettas: The sad thing is none of LL's movies have ever done over $20 million in the 1st week when he plays different roles while these fools do $80 million playing themselves. :mad: