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Yeah that LL/Kool Moe Dee battle was classic, 2 legends battlin' it out on the mic, it gets no better than that, they both did their thing, mcs today should look at that battle as the blueprint to how battles should be, "Jack The Ripper", "Mama Said Knock You Out", "Let's Go", and "How You Like Me Now?" are the greatest battle songs in my opinion.

Fans need to wake up as much as the rappers do, if they stopped buying it maybe there'll be a change, the way it appears only a few people like us actually care about the negative way hip-hop is potrayed while millions that buy it don't really care and some that used to like hip-hop don't even pay attention to it anymore, parents shouldn't let their kids listen to it but they do, it ain't only the rappers' fault. :word: I want Will to release "Lost and Found" as the next single now and put LL and Chuck D in the video!

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Well I think the reason why the can say they look up 2 LL and make violent music at the same time is cus well they don't feel that they are part of the problem. 50 and Em probably are thinking that this comment ain't directed at him but 2 their enemies. Cus Em and 50 think all they are doing is speaking the truth as the way they see it. 50 cent sees himself as original gangsta rapper. That's a good point there, 50 Cent came out with a song called "Wanksta" making fun of people that act like gangstas when they ain't really ones but in reality he's a "wanksta" himself, he ain't really as tough as he says he is and he needs to stop talking like that to mislead people that're stupid enough to buy into it.

Rap star: Resist dumbing-down movement By Corey G. Johnson The Daily Reflector Thursday, October 06, 2005 Chuck D, leader of the award-winning rap group Public Enemy, told ECU students Wednesday to resist a dumbing-down movement taking place in American culture. "Minds are the real estate of the new millennium," Chuck D said to the diverse crowd of nearly 250 at Wright Auditorium. "The worst thing that can happen is to have someone thinking for you." Sponsored by the Ledonia Wright Cultural Center and the ECU Student Union Cultural Awareness Committee, the speech was organized largely in response to what students said they wanted to hear, Lathan Turner, assistant vice chancellor for student life, said. "Even though some consider him controversial, many see him as insightful, informative and in most cases, motivational," Turner said. "Chuck D's name kept showing up in our focus groups in the top ten list of desired speakers." Speaking from the theme, "Race, Rap, Reality and Technology," Public Enemy's lead lyricist tackled a plethora of topics from the Hurricane Katrina disaster to what he called the "virtual pedophilia" of sexually-suggestive programming being targeted to youth. He called Viacom-owned MTV and BET – empty TV and the Booty and Thug network. "BET markets their award show as playing during prime time. Prime time usually means you're watching with your family and kids," he said. "Then the next thing you know, Destiny's Child is up onstage doing a lap dance. Did the decision to go from being a 'Survivor' to doing lap dances take place in some boardroom." Chuck D also accused corporate powers of "lobotomizing" black public figures in music and television. As a result, he said rap music in 2005 doesn't feel the same to him. "A lot of today's artists' number one obligation is to their contract." he said. "They are going to do what their masters say." He applauded rapper Kanye West's courage for publicly voicing criticism during the reason Hurricane Katrina disaster but warned that West might lose his mainstream status in the backlash. West previously suggested the slow federal response to rescue New Orleans citizens was a result of "George Bush not caring about black people." "He's got to know that he will no longer be considered in Britney Spears' land," he said. He also suggested the controversy surrounding West's remarks is proof of how far consciousness has devolved. "You shouldn't be surprised that an artist has something to say instead of BS," Chuck D said. "Kanye West did what a 28-year-old grown, voting man should do. But how is what he is saying considered crazy when you got songs like Face Down, (Behind) Up playing at 1:30 everyday?" Chuck D also mocked students who try to bring street thuggism into the university. "There are two cottage industries that result from thuggism – prison and dead. And both of them are making a lot of money," he said. "There is no such thing as a collegiate thug, so stop fronting." He challenged the students to take advantage of their educational opportunities in order to develop their own mind. "Don't be indecisive. Leave here with your own mind," he said. "You can't afford not to." Yelitza Ortiz, 18, of Fayetteville, said she was first introduced to Chuck D and Public Enemy four years with the song "Fight the Power." She said Wednesday's speech was an eye-opener. "I went into the speech not knowing what to expect, but there were things he said about the pop culture that I would have never thought of before," Ortiz said. "It really made me think." Corey G. Johnson can be reached at cjohnson@coxnc.com or 329-9565.

I think LL should personally say who he feels should be the ones that need to balance out their lyrics then maybe they'll pay attention to him more or he'll finish their careers, he got the power to do it! :stickpoke:

There was a rumor that FP and Michael Jackson did another track together that didn't make the album besides "Can U Feel Me" that sampled Michael Jackson, how could u choose the song with Lil' Kim over Michael Jackson? That musta been Columbia's bright idea just like using the Trackmasters on the album, they're commercial producing style worked on "Big Willie Style" but "Willenium" is an ol' school hip-hop album and they don't have that ol' school sound. "Uhhh" should've been a single, Kel Spencer's album might've came out and went platinum if that single came out...

Great lyrics like usual, I had problems trying to download the audio though...

Yeah I don't understand how Em and 50 say they look up to LL and yet they make their music so violent? :sick:

It's nice to hear that Will's doing something, as we get closer to that time maybe we'll get an idea what he'll be doing then, I hope "Tell Me Why" comes out before that "Switch" died months ago already so we already know it's not that, lol, "Party Starter" is dead already before it got started, and I personally think it's too late to promote "Lost and Found" but if he wants to perform "I Wish I Made That", "Lost and Found", "Tell Me Why" or "Mr. Nice Guy" on there it's better late than never, I'd prefer that he's gonna announce he's gonna go on tour or perform a new track but as long as he's out there doing something musically I'm happy.

Great verse! :rockon:

Well tracks 2-5 were just average and don't hold weight to the stength to the rest of the album, the songs with Common, Wyclef, and Michael Jackson would've made "Willenium" the greatest rap album ever if they replaced those, I'd loved to see JJFP do a video with Michael Jackson!

http://www.nobodysmiling.com/hiphop/news/85175.php LL Cool J Says Lyrics Needs Balance by: Michael Ivey Sun, October 2nd, 2005 VH1’s recent “Hip Hop Honors” lifetime achievement award recipient, LL Cool J, feels there are too many gangsters in rap. According to one of the longest tenured professionals in music today (twenty plus years) the only way hip hop can lose it’s violent image is if emcees stop coming out as shooters and crack dealers. LL Cool J is definitely encouraged by the lucrative business the music generates, saying “I think it’s afforded a lot of people great lifestyles.” However, his knowledge of the social impact rap lyrics have on youth and casual listeners prompted a call for more positive messages. He says, “so many people who are not really used to rap or don’t know anything about it think that that’s all there is.” As an entertainer known more for his female oriented songs and hard core delivery, not content, LL feels the culture as a whole would benefit from more balance.

Well Queen Latifah's top producer Kay Gee produced "Da Butta" so it's definately a possibility that FP was trying to get Queen Latifah or maybe even Naughty By Nature on the track since he was still producing for them still at that time, I remember buying Naughty By Nature's new album around that time too, good times...

I actually like that 1st verse on "Freakin' It", classic FP punchlines, I think maybe the lines "Mr. Clean but the fact remains/I got girls don't speakin' english screamin' my name/for all y'all talkin' about who you're gonna put in a verse/do me a favor write one verse without a curse" lead to Eminem dissin' FP on "The Real Slim Shady", I normally play the 1st verse of that and then skip to track 6 myself, I don't understand what'd make FP put Lil' Kim on "Da Butta"? I guess Queen Latifah wasn't available, lol. I think if FP rushed to release to 'I"m Comin'" around "The Real Slim Shady" it'd helped "Willenium" sell a lot more than what it did and would've slowed Eminem down if they actually played it that is, lol, FP needs to release "Mr. Nice Guy" or "Lost and Found" as singles to answer his critics back now!

I'd say this rhyme by KRS-ONE's "Come To Da Party" is also relevant to these times more than ever: "Negative rap, positive rap, forget that black it's a trap to set us back, concentrate on various rap talents Presently the rap radio format is unbalanced You either got the player, or the concious rhyme sayer all day, on your radio, not with a different flavor Someone has to DIE before you hear a concious record People don't like gangsta rap, but concious rap, they don't respect it The truth is people are afraid of black youth Our expressions, our lessons and gold teeth, so.."

Great lyrics all the way through, I like this part the best: "I hate the way that fake gangsta's rule the street That's why i make music that can make ya move ya feet Even if your sitting, See that is exactly my mission No tommorow can only leave hopeless fools in competition But look at the pimps glisten..."

Well I guess this is the only way to get people talkin' about Bloodhound Gang so I don't take it serious, lol.

Bush's approval rating is still down: -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Poll: Bush's Job Approval Remains Low By WILL LESTER, Associated Press Writer 40 minutes ago WASHINGTON - President Bush's job approval is mired at the lowest level of his presidency, and public feelings about the nation's direction have sunk to new depths in an Associated Press-Ipsos poll. ADVERTISEMENT People are anxious about Iraq, the economy, gas prices and the management of billions of dollars being spent for recovery from the nation's worst natural disaster. "There is a growing, deep-seated discontentment and pessimism about the direction of the country," said Republican strategist Tony Fabrizio, who believes that pessimism is not always aimed at the president and his policies. Only 28 percent say the country is headed in the right direction and two-thirds, 66 percent, say the country is on the wrong track, the AP-Ipsos poll found. Those most likely to have lost optimism on that score include several groups that supported Bush in his re-election: white evangelicals, down 30 percentage points; Republican women, down 28 points; Southerners, down 26 points, and suburban men, down 20. Americans' confidence in the nation's direction has been shaken on several fronts. Consumer confidence is near the lowest level in two years. Most people are unhappy with the president's handling of the economy, gas prices and hurricane recovery. Just over a third approve of his handling of Iraq. Six in 10 are unsure whether billions of dollars for hurricane relief will be spent wisely. Bush's job approval was 39 percent in the poll, about where he's been for the three months. "We've lost focus on where we're supposed to be going and not able to respond to the crises that affect the people of this country," said David Ernest, a Republican from San Ramon, Calif., who is angry about the government's response to Hurricane Katrina. "We're mired in a Middle Eastern adventure and we've taken the focus off of our own country." Four of five Republicans say they approve of Bush's job performance, close to the level of support he's had from his base for months. But the enthusiasm of that support has dipped over the last year. Almost two-thirds of Republicans strongly approved of the job done by Bush in December 2004, soon after his re-election. The AP-Ipsos survey found that just half in his own party feel that way now. "It's very difficult for him because he is trying to get more support generally from the American public by seeming more moderate and showing he's a strong leader at the same time he has a rebellion within his own party," said James Thurber, a political scientist at American University. "The far right is starting to be very open about their claim that he's not a real conservative." Fiscal conservatives are complaining about huge budget deficits and plans to spend billions on hurricane recovery. Social conservatives are alarmed about his choice of a relatively unknown lawyer, Harriet Miers, as a nominee for the Supreme Court. Miers, Bush's longtime personal attorney, has most recently served as White House counsel. Bush's has tried to reassure conservatives about Miers. He's also trying to counter critics of the war by tying U.S. efforts in Iraq to the larger war against terrorism. And he's made frequent trips to the areas devastated by hurricanes Katrina and Rita to offset criticism of the government's initial response to Katrina. Even those efforts get viewed with suspicion by some. "I just think the president is doing things for political reasons, not what's right for the people," said Traci Wallace, a Democrat from Tallahassee, Fla. "Every time he makes a trip to the hurricane zone, he's blowing a million dollars." Of all the problems facing the country, the continuing war in Iraq is the one that troubles some Bush supporters the most. "I approve of what the president is doing, but it's a mixed decision," said Richard Saulinski, a Republican from Orland Park, Ill. "We should get out of Iraq. It seems like there's no light at the end of the tunnel. I just think we're dealing with a culture we don't really understand." The poll of 1,000 adults was conducted by Ipsos, an international polling company, from Monday to Wednesday and has a margin of sampling error of plus or minus 3 percentage points. ___ AP manager of news surveys Trevor Tompson contributed to this story.

Maybe it's something bigger than just promoting "Lost and Found" if they announce it! :1-say-yes:

Did LL say Canibus' name in the verse? When any rapper makes a battle verse you don't know if they're specifically talkin' about a rapper particular sometimes when they don't name anybody. You wouldn't know if Canibus didn't release "2nd Round Knockout" and called LL out that LL was dissin' him in the song and talked all that crap about the conversations in the interviews, LL wasn't talkin' about it, he was out promoting his album and workin' on a movie, he wasn't stressin' on Canibus then, he thought that the beef was over, he moved on from that, Canibus was the immature one that stressed on it. We all know now as a fact that LL did diss him but you wouldn't know if Canibus never released "2nd Round Knockout", he used LL's name just so he could get fame since people didn't know of him yet but LL had the last laugh 'cause LL's still famous now! :stickpoke: When LL battled Kool Moe Dee, MC Hammer, and Ice-T they were all known mcs already so they had the right to diss LL if they wanted and it'd be more competitive since they were on the same level then too, this wasn't an amateur mc battle that he was in this is the top mc of the hip-hop industry that he was facing; the guy who brought hip-hop from underground to the mainstream, and Canibus was an unknown up-and-coming mc so he should've tried establishing himself 1st before dissin' LL, wouldn't you say that I'm just trying to get fame if I dissed LL on my 1st single coming out if I just got signed? I honestly wouldn't let that phase me since LL's the greatest, I would just work on my album and that's it as long as he didn't personally say, "I'm challengin' amateur mcs like Big Ted", then I'd retailiate. It's below the belt just like when 50 Cent disses everybody more famous than him, that's below the belt to do that. If you assumed back then that LL dissed Canibus in that song you could also assume that FP dissed Eminem in "Freakin' It" by sayin' "Mr. Clean but the fact remains/ I got girls that don't speak english screamin' my name/ For all y'all rappers that talk about who you're gonna put in a Hearse/do me a favor write one verse without a curse" plus what he said on the MTV awards and maybe that actually lead for Eminem sayin' "Will Smith says he don't have to curse to sell records/well I do so f*** him and f*** you too", right? I thought that was below the belt too, Will didn't specifically say Eminem's name in the song or when he was talking at the MTV awards so Em should've said, "Some rappers say they don't have to curse to sell records/well I do so f*** them and f*** you too", that way it'd show Em dissin' a whole group of rappers and not just Will. EDIT: AJ if you got that "Rasta Imposter" track you could send it to Tim and he could play it on the JJFP radio, I'm broke right now but when I get money up I'm gonna pm you to send that track to me if that's aight with you homie, I need to get a copy of "Ripper Strikes Back" too since I didn't buy DMX's 1st album right away, lol, I was only able to download it, I actually taped it from the radio when it came out but I misplaced the tape, lol. I just found an article where Canibus says that Em ghostwrote battle rhymes for LL when they were battlin', that's the most rediculous thing I've ever heard, Canibus is way out of line, "No reason for ghostwriters/Every year I get tighter": http://md74850.tripod.com/hiphop/id1.html

Da Brakes, LL didn't have to change his verse since Canibus changed his, he didn't specifically callin' out Canibus in the song when he said "Tearin' every mc in the game/to play yourself out of position and mention my name", maybe Canibus thought LL was referring to him since he is a battle rapper so I guess it was to be expected that he'd answer back I could see your point but nobody knew that LL was referring to Canibus until "2nd Round KO" came out and Canibus brought it to light, Canibus started the battle.

That's a funny coincidence I was listening to "Willenium" yesterday too, lol, such a classic! :1-say-yes:

Great news, I hope he drops some new freestyles! :rockon:

Looks dope, can't wait to check it out! :yeah: