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I spent more money buying KaySlay's album with a bunch of wack songs just for LL's "The Truth" so at least I know this time I'll like the rest on that CD even though I'm buying it just for "Ripper Strikes Back".

Game spends most of the time rhymin' about other people instead of himself! :stickpoke:

Well I wasn't dissin' Kanye, I mean he is a grown man he could do whatever he wants to on his own time but in the public eye he needs to be careful especially when he potrays himself as somebody with deep spirtual beliefs, I mean Kid Rock could say that he watches pornos 'cause he potrays himself as bad ass anyway so I don't think that'd surprise anybody since he ain't a role model, just like if Ice T said he watches porno that wouldn't surprise anybody either. btw, I didn't read into it carefully, that's actually his mother's fault for sayin' something like that to the media, you got a point there smoothb. I personally don't understand why famous people like Kanye would have to look at pornos, it's not they'd have a hard time finding a date, they could even get them models to go out with them, lol, I could understand broke people that got no game looking at it.

That's something personal though, Will might watch porno too but he don't tell the whole world about it, he got one of the hottest women in the world so he might not have to either, lol. :gettinjiggywitit: Kanye's supposed to be a role model and not be promoting that crap, leave that behind close doors.

I don't know why I didn't ask u! :damnyou: :lolsign: I think it'll be more convienient for me to get it this mixtape since it's only $7 but if I have any problems receiving it or decide not to get it I'll give u a holla, they should update "All World" to be like this!

Yeah what a role model he is! :rofl: :shakehead:

What's up y'all I found this when I browsing through looking for mixtapes : http://www.mixtapekings.com/hiphop/djs/dj_...lly_cookout.asp

Hey y'all I found this dope mixtape with LL Cool J tracks called "30 Shots To The Dome", it got that "Ripper Strikes Back" song that I was looking for so I'll be copping dis! :rockon: http://www.mixtapekings.com/hiphop/djs/tap...to_the_dome.asp

The album ain't even in the top 200 now though, it'll be a miracle if it even gets back there, that'd be the biggest miracle in music history if it happened to get back in the top 40 but then again with slow sales by everybody it could happen if it jumps from 3,000 to 30,000 a week miraculously, I'm not holding my breath for that, and it's not being negative saying that the album peaked, it's reality but if Will releases singles for another year maybe it'll be certified platinum by this time next year also if the right singles are released, his credablility in the hip-hop circle will be the highest since the JJFP days. I remember when critics were reviewing "Lost and Found", a lot of them were saying that "Tell Me Why" was another boring song about 9/11, the public probably won't like that either. But Will has to try something, the way some of y'all are talkin', y'all sound like you want him to pack it in! He should take the risk to release a song with a powerful message even if it don't sell that much, the most respected mcs are the ones that take risks, not the ones with the most hits anyway, the album sold respectable already, now it's time to just generate more respect.

You 2 should send emails to each other if y'all wanna keep on debatin' 'cause I think a lot of us lost interest on this topic.

Yeah "Lost and Found"'s out there selling only gold, Public Enemy's new album "New Whirl Odor" dropped last week too and is probably gonna do even less since it's hardly being promoting I'll be surprised if it sells 100,000 even when it hits all stores next month 'cause I doubt that BET or MTV will play their new video "Bring That Beat Back" since they don't even play "Party Starter" and they banned Lil' Brother's video too so that album's falling off the charts selling 30,000, Casual's new album pretty fresh too but it's not even impacting much independently it's probably barely selling a few thousand, I need to word that differently 'cause there is some fresh stuff out now but it's not doing the type of impact that it should be.

LL dissed MC Hammer and Ice-T on "Till Da Break Of Dawn"-"you call yourself hammer but you couldn't break a glass", MC Hammer dissed LL and Run-Dmc on "Let's Get It Started", and I don't remember what tracks Ice-T dissed LL on since I don't really listen to him that much but it was all part of the east-west coast beef in the early 90s in commercial rap, Ice Cube dissed KRS-ONE too I believe, it wasn't nothin' personal though they were all just battlin' on wax. btw, if you read what I said Da Brakes I said I know now that LL dissed Canibus on "4,3,2,1" but I didn't know that he dissed Canibus on there until Canibus released "2nd Round KO", I thought it was just a hot hip-hop verse when I heard it on the radio when it came out, would you know that LL dissed Canibus on "4,3,2,1" if Canibus didn't say anything about it? I don't know why you're stressin' on it either man, no matter what you say I'm still gonna say that I think Canibus was one that started the beef, it was over before it began, LL would've probably changed the verse if he put Canibus' name in it but he didn't have to since nobody in the public knew he dissed Canibus on there, Canibus shouldn't have started the battle in the 1st place, he can't hold a mic for LL and that's how I feel, I wouldn't be stupid enough to battle LL either now 'cause I ain't on that level. btw, I heard Wyclef made a song later on dissin' Canibus when he stopped being his manager, I never heard it though, does anyone have the audio for that?

I bet a lot of the students there probably didn't know who Chuck D was until then, if I was there I'd bring one of my Public Enemy CDs so he could sign it for me, lol, I think the dumbing down will gradually lead to disinterest after awhile, you could see record sales are going down, even 50 Cent's selling less than half of what he sold first album, going from 12 million to 5 million but he's still the most popular one which tells you that people are losing interest in commercial rap, next album he'll barely hit platinum I bet and the rest of them will struggle even worse, sooner or later people are gonna be bored with it unless something fresh comes out.

Yeah the majority of the public needs to hear this message, it just seems to be spoken by a few hip-hop heads like us and doesn't seem to get across to the commercial rap fans, I mean if you post this on the MTV board, all the G Unit fans would laugh at what LL said.

:word: My frustration of hip-hop has lead me to want this to be the next single now, everybody needs to hear this message, too bad there wasn't a way we could all email Will and tell him that we want him to do this!

I'll be in it too especially since I'm a member on yahoo already. :1-say-yes:

Hmmm... but you seem to have a problem CORRECTING YOURSELF WHEN YOU ARE WRONG! Your facts are straight huh? Most of the straight facts in this instance were the ones that YOU CHOSE TO IGNORE! Who sounds ridiculous now? Damm, what a bully! I see that I'm not the only person that you've threatened. What about all of the inaccurate information THAT YOU purported to be fact? What about all the garbage that YOU heard but didn't have any evidence of? When I called it into question you ridiculed me, even when I presented evidence AGAINST IT!!! OH MY LAWDY JEEZUS WHAT A HYPOCRITE!!!!!!!!!! So, how long are YOU going to stand by what "has been shown to be inaccurate or ambiguous"? Time to take your medicine son, Daddy ain't goin nowhere! :bufordpusser: :lolsign: The truth hurts! :stickpoke:

Will's verse was the best verse on the song, most Slick Rick's verse was from "Children's Story" and he was singing from "La Di-Da Di" which is classic too, he samples himself quite a bit too on his songs but people sample him a lot too so it ain't like he gases himself up, lol. but Will's verse was original.

:word: Biz Markie is underrated!

"Lost and Found" didn't have massive success but to say it flopped is foolish, only a handful of albums went at least gold this year and he's nominated for an AMA, it wasn't a flop!

I think there's a handful that you could say that could be the best mc ever and LL's one of them to say the least!

http://www.publicenemy.com/index.php?page=page2&item=117 That's the link to the article, they have quite a few interesting articles on that Public Enemy site, there's an article about the new Public Enemy album called "New Whirl Odor" that hit Best Buy stores last week and is gonna be on sale at other retail stores on Nov. 1st, and there's a link their new video "Bring That Beat Back" on there too, I'm gonna check for that! :rockon:

I think all the positive rappers need to come together and support each other, that'd be the best way to get hip-hop back in the right direction, btw I think LL's fans like me would say that LL's just as famous for his content as he is for his female oriented tracks and hardcore delivery, you can't do 11 albums without being known for content, he could do a song about anything, arguably the most lyrical gifted mc ever, that's just like the people who say Will only does club songs.

I still need to find one myself if somebody finds a copy of it somewhere pm me!

So what does everybody think about it? I'm surprised that Chuck D would say that Kanye West's career is in jeopordy from what he said when he's selling 1.5 million right now, I thought that what he said about Bush would've myself after he first said it but actually it appeared that his sales got higher probably since a lot of people actually agree with him since Bush's approval rating is down, too bad not too many people pay attention to what Chuck D says though.