Da Brakes Posted June 27, 2004 Report Share Posted June 27, 2004 [quote=bigted,Jun 27 2004, 12:49 PM]That was classic!![/quote] Canibus ripped LL? Where's Canibus now then if he did rip LL? I don't hear anyone say Canibus is a legend, they still say LL is a legend. If Canibus ripped LL so bad he would be getting more cred than what he has and he doesn't know how to make rap music 'cause what hot album did Canibus make? LL didn't have anything to prove to Canibus just like we say Will Smith doesn't have anything to prove to Eminem 'cause when you're a new rapper you can't just overtake a veteran that has been in the game for 15 years. That'd be like sayin' that Lebron James would beat Michael Jordan in one-on-one, it ain't happenin'. [/quote] Canibus is still around making records andripping up the mic wherever he goes. Just recently he was at 'The Jump Off' MC battle competition here in London. Plenty of people [b]are[/b] saying Canibus is a legend, and he is. How many people do you think can put words, smilies and metaphors together like he can? And just because Canibus beat LL in a battle doesn't mean he automatically becomes a bigger star than him and starts being successful, it doesn't work like that. The one advantage LL has over Canibus is that he knows how to make songs which the record buying public will accept and buy in their numbers. This is something that Canibus has always lacked. But saying this Canibus [b]DOES[/b] make hot music. Which albums have you listened to of his?? Anybody who's listened to any of his albums (barring C-True Hollywood Stories) would not say that Canibus does not make hot music. But the fact of the matter is that Canibus is and always will remain an underground MC, which is why his records don't sell in the millions. If u check out his forum, you'll see the enormous fan base in which he has. And for someone who doesn't have anything to prove, why did LL start the whole battle between them? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bigted Posted June 28, 2004 Report Share Posted June 28, 2004 Sorry that I'm not a big Canibus fan but it doesn't matter how many records you sell to be considered a legend. KRS-ONE and Rakim are always brought up as much if not more than LL Cool J and Will Smith are when it comes to the greatest M.C. of all time even though KRS-ONE and Rakim aren't Grammy award winners like LL Cool J and Will Smith. My point is Canibus ain't in the category and it has nothing to do with record sales! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JumpinJack AJ Posted June 29, 2004 Report Share Posted June 29, 2004 I don't think Canibus won...cuz i never heard a reply from him after "The Ripper Strikes Back." I'm sure he said stuff...but it waz never heard except by the 7 people who have gone out and supported his more recent stuff. I think L.L.'s answers 2 Canibus were hilarious...beyond trash talking...L.L. waz having fun with it rather than taking it real serious. I heard alot of Canibus' early stuff and i just don't like it. The production waz weak, his voice annoyed me, i didn't like his flow...and while he did have some clever lyrics, i think he waz overrated at the time cuz they really didn't stand out 2 me. I'm not calling him Ludacris or anything but he just never impressed me. L.L. still went after him on G.O.A.T. also. I think that kinda finished it all off. I just think he's a whiney lil' punk cuz after his 1st album flopped commercially, he attacked Wyclef. Wyclef had his back, got him recognized, helped him get most of his fanbase, put his album 2gether...DID EVERYTHING 4 HIM...then he dissed him. I look at it this way, Wyclef is a big hit maker...look at his solo career, not 2 mention giving Pras his only big hit and making hits for John Forte and City High. If Wyclef can make hits with all these people who were new artists at the time, why couldn't Canibus make a hit when he already had a buzz about him. That just tells me he can't deliver what people really wanna hear. I also don't think L.L. had 2 respond 2 him...but when he took Canibus' verse on "4,3,2,1" as diss on song 4 his own album, it gave him a good reason 2 take a shot at him. Then, after making a stupid move as a new jack rapper taking on a vet...L.L. just laffed since he didn't have anything at steak and tore him apart cuz he waz hungry 2. Did Canibus ever answer "The Ripper Strikes Back" cuz i'd love 2 hear it. I heard Wyclef's answer 2 "Rasta Impasta" on his freestyle on one of Tony Touch's mistapes and it waz pretty wack. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Da Brakes Posted June 29, 2004 Report Share Posted June 29, 2004 (edited) LL was out of order to Canibus over that whole verse thing. I've heard the actual phone call between LL and Canibus talking about that verse and he made out like they were gonna resolve it but then stabbed canibus in the back. If u would have heard it and seen wat had gone on then u'd understand how. And canibus did reply to Ripper Strikes Back with a diss track called 'Rip The Jacker' (which i'm sure has been heard by more than 7 people) That really was the end of it. LL was beat. I dont understand tho how peeps think LL beat Canibus with 'Ripper strikes back'!! He came up wid nothing new in that track and in my opinion was weak compared to 'Second Round Knockout'. On each of Canibus' album to date therehave been numerous digs towards many artists!! The most being LL. Others include Eminem, Beinie Siegal and other Roc-A-Fella label mates!! If u listen to Canibus' first album den you'll find out why he dissed Wyclef!! Come on now.....how can ANYBODY have a hit with the beats Wyclef made for that album!! They were DISGRACEFUL!! And he calls himself a producer???? Something was goin on there!! Edited June 29, 2004 by Da Brakes Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bigted Posted June 29, 2004 Report Share Posted June 29, 2004 Another battle that we have forgot to mention is KRS-ONE vs. Nelly. All real hip-hop fans know that KRS-ONE destroyed Nelly wit the song "Ova Here", while pop fans continued to ignore that and bought Nelly's garbage album that summer, which sold more than Born To Reign. :cussing: Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Admin Hero1 Posted June 30, 2004 Admin Report Share Posted June 30, 2004 fresh prince was in this classic battle with this other rapper from philly on lady b's radio show..of course fresh prince ripped him... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bigted Posted August 5, 2004 Report Share Posted August 5, 2004 [quote=bigted,Jun 29 2004, 08:23 AM]Another battle that we have forgot to mention is KRS-ONE vs. Nelly. All real hip-hop fans know that KRS-ONE destroyed Nelly wit the song "Ova Here", while pop fans continued to ignore that and bought Nelly's garbage album that summer, which sold more than Born To Reign. :cussing:[/quote] Oh yeah I wanted to show y'all the lyrics to that song "OVA HERE", check it out: [url="http://www.ohhla.com/anonymous/krs_one/mix_tape/ova_here.krs.txt"]OVA HERE Lyrics[/url] Artist: KRS-One Album: The Mix Tape Song: Ova Here Typed by: Gemini_2050@Hotmail.com [Intro] The real hip hop is ova (Here!!!!) The real hip hop is ova (Here!!!!) The real hip hop is ova (Here!!!!) The real hip hop is ova (Here!!!!) [Interlude] Blaow Blaow!!! Blaow Blaow!!! Clear em out clear 'em out!!! Word! [Verse 1] Yo Nelly! You ain't Fo'Reel and you ain't Universal Your whole style sounds like a N'Sync commercial Ignoramus, I'm the baddest with the mic apparatus Challengin the God of rap is madness, I'll snatch your status With this ugly lookin billboard you could stop them But I got enough albums to make my own top ten You limited, like the spread of traffic You bite my style off the radio so when you speak you bet I hear the static You better Chillout like Chuck, I kick like three Norrises One of my sixteen bar rhymes is eight of your choruses Of course it is ridiculous Watch out, I begin to curve indispicuous Gotcha! On your, hands and knees Ain't it about time for some real emcees? [Chorus] The real hip hop is ova (Here!!!!) The real hip hop is ova (Here!!!!) The real hip hop is ova (Here!!!!) The real hip hop is ova (Here!!!!) [Verse 2] (Uh!) Uh! We on the hunt tonight When you see me comin, I don't front I fight People say I'm contradictin, cause I'm all about peace To say the least with a violent history It ain't no mystery these rappers wanna get with me My people don't see that all they hear is stop hittin me, huh Stop beatin me Chris, you want to help my career Nelly? Well you can help if you don't exist, huh I think it's 'bout time we stop these pop rappers **** these pop rappers, hip hop does matter to me Does it matter to you? My crew If it does, you know what the hell to do Throw your guns in the air, pump it like yeah Let these bitch ass rappers know we in here Go to the shows huh, boo 'em off stage Tell 'em KRS told you they at the end of they days Let me tell you let's give hip hop a lift And don't buy Nelly's album on June twenty fifth That'll send a message to all them sellouts House nigga rapper, your bottom done fell out You don't even know how I told you I wasn't talkin about you then, but I'm talkin about you now! Blaow! one to the kness, blaow one goes right through Even St. Louis don't like you!!!! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JumpinJack AJ Posted August 6, 2004 Report Share Posted August 6, 2004 :roll: Thanx 4 posting that. What in Nelly's mind allows him 2 think he talk mess about anybody in the game, much less someone like KRS-One. He's gotta be one of the dumbest people with a label deal. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DefCEM Posted August 8, 2004 Report Share Posted August 8, 2004 [quote=Hero1,Jun 29 2004, 06:44 PM]fresh prince was in this classic battle with this other rapper from philly on lady b's radio show..of course fresh prince ripped him...[/quote] You mean Steady B right? I know that Will had a battle against Steady B back in 1988. And Fresh Prince ripped him of course. Are there any other battles from Will? :dunno: :poke: Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest lambertj3 Posted August 8, 2004 Report Share Posted August 8, 2004 the only problem with that was no radio airplay for that song and over 8 million people bout that album when it came out Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members Daedalus Mortality Posted August 8, 2004 Members Report Share Posted August 8, 2004 (edited) Word @ [i]Da brakes[/i] on almost everything he said about [i]Canibus and LL. LL[/i] did only have that one good line, but it really was great and still cracks me up today. And how can you say [i]Canibus[/i] isn't a legend? Lyricly alot of people know he is one of the greatest, yes he doesn't make hits! But isn't it you who allways complains about pop rappers and such? its apperent sales don't mean talent. I really don't know any MC thats a better lyricist then [i]Cani[/i]. BUT about [i]Clef[/i] yes alot of beats on the album [i]Can-I-bus[/i] were bad, but it also had some nice ones like: how we roll, whats going on, how come?, and n*gganometry, and I do think [i]Canibus[/i] should have just told clef he wanted other beats. (atleats on that album he din't just brag and boast but had some subjects. And even tough Eminem made an entire record to dis him, [i]Can-I-Bitch[/i], In [i]curricilum 101[/i] Bus drops a few lines i find doper then Slim's entire record [i]"Whats the Mathers whit you?, I beat you black and blue, better yet I put a tatoo of me on you, plus a 10' by 10' " C" logo in neon blue" [/i] Edited August 8, 2004 by Daedalus Mortality Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JumpinJack AJ Posted August 9, 2004 Report Share Posted August 9, 2004 Canibus' lyrics never really stuck me or my friends. In 1997/1998, we heard some of his stuff and it waz average 2 boring 4 us including "Second Round K.O." When we heard "The Ripper Stikes Back" nearly every other line left us laughing or reacting. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members Daedalus Mortality Posted August 9, 2004 Members Report Share Posted August 9, 2004 (edited) Ok AJ, I just dont believe that you tought it was that good, really im sorry: By the middle of March when the pregnancy starts In your ladies' placenta that means L just entered Duck taped your little bitch ass for frontin You poor little crackhead ass ain't hurtin nuttin Nigga you want the fame, now you're famous overnight Famous for getting ****ed by a stick of dynamite You're weak nigga, you bout to die up in your sleep The overlord of rap will never meet defeat Pain and agony, I don't touch them zones ****ing everlasting lyrical methods is my throne Blast ya fifty pound ass and make you float You read it shook nigga, I wrote the book, nigga Held down my crown for a decade and a half Now I'm bout to give your grimy ass a blood bath Talk about bein broke, nigga I'm rich Cause I learned, to seperated the money from the bitch Don't hate me cause I'm paid, hate me because I'm everything you want to be : handsome, young, plus legendary Talk about Farrakhan, nigga you got to call Jesse Jackson For some Affirmative Action Chorus: repeat 4X Can-I-Bus ! Yes you can! Don't ever open your mouth and mention my seeds Talk about my book you bought to read You know you watch the sitcom nigga so stop that Mad rapper, but now you turned mad actor Forty-nine pounds and tryin to be a monster Run around town with the Bob Marley imposters Ask Canibus, he ain't understandin this [b]Cause ninety-nine percent of his fans, don't exist[/b] I'm goin underground and blowin your rep down Next time, save that **** for the Lyricist's Lounge Or a House Party, where you can battle some clown On top of all that, I beat your homeless ass down Heard that convicted rapist on the record too Fresh out of jail, ass cheeks still black and blue Tell me bout the things ear biter taught you How to bust a nut or two? (Yeah that's butta boo) You be decomposin, but you frozen because my title's stolen Steady rollin in a world that I'm controllin Vanguard awards are for Kings who get OFF! Clock platinum mountains, the praise of the Lord Talkin bout my first and second and third born Now I got a fourth, Canibus, but he cut off From the riches of my empire, I'm like a pimp Who thought he had to retire but found a new Canibus to hire You're hardcore, innocence like Heather Hunter But definitely not with the lyrics that drop thunder Found you in a trash can, hat black, cause you scared to bust Nigga in Todd we trust Chorus Now break it down for me ! See I, eat, eat, eat, eat, eat, eat, eat, amateur, M,C's in hip-hop, word up, no bull**** Oh I ain't done yet You soft as a newborn baby takin a nap Make my dick hard with that bitch ass track Where you at? Smokin in some one room flat Suckin on Clef's dick hopin to come back Never that, nigga my size is unlimited Yours is prohibited, of course that's contributed To not knowin ya limits and who you need to test When you step into the house of the Lord and get blessed Get on your knees, bow down to my degrees Young slacker, save that demo for Jack the Rapper You gargoyle, slash olive oil, pussycat I wrapped up in aluminum foil, ready to boil I'ma tear the skin off ya ass with ten knuckles Rhymes was weak, they made me chuckle like a name buckle You call em lyrics, nigga you need to stop You goin out --- ahh **** it, you goin pop I feed you a poisonous verse so don't try it No more rhymin, you on a lyric fast diet Call the paramedic and tell them that he pathetic His lyrics ain't energetic you're sweet as a diabetic Career be over next year, yeah I said it Look over your shoulder nigga, where you headed MUTHA****A, where's a rhyme when you need it? First rule of lyrical war, never repeat it You said that same bull**** at House of Blues Lit the pipe, dropped the match, and sparked the wrong fuse That's you, yeah nigga I'm goin at you Stop basin', and you can be a role model too Diss my moms, who's the real Rap Don ? Who ruled for fifteen years and drops bombs ? Who's got solid gold Grammy's that say Todd ? LL, when you drop verses the nigga's wrong Faggot, you better battle number two Cause number one, got his title locked down son The King of all rappers that ever graced the stage or the mic, best that ever did it I'm wicked Write a verse and flip it, melt it down to liquid And drown shorty, fill his lungs until I rip it Chest busts open, heart bursts and smokin YOU SEE THAT NIGGA SON? (Damn L, we was only jokin) Maneuver manipulate brainwaves transform your thought process, when my pen gets erect Warning, all MC's better retreat Look at corny-bus, he can't walk down his own street Better run and get the Fugees Cause I EAT, EAT, EAT, MC's Devour they titles, cause I'm an idol slash icon And tell Wyclef, don't even turn his ****in mic on Sold ya nigga, thought I told ya nigga Crossover, slam dunk, game over nigga (one more time son) Sold ya nigga, thought I told ya nigga Crossover, slam dunk, game over nigga Chorus Ok, now you sellect all the lines you tought were funny (I allready slected the one I tought was dope) Plus, the song doesnt even flow right, it sounds like a flow from a mid 80s song in a late 90's song. Edited August 9, 2004 by Daedalus Mortality Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Da Brakes Posted August 9, 2004 Report Share Posted August 9, 2004 I agree! That was a HOT song! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members Daedalus Mortality Posted August 9, 2004 Members Report Share Posted August 9, 2004 (edited) Huh? wich was? [url="http://www.freewebs.com/adralassi/no%20artist%20-%20AudioTrack%2002.mp3"].[/url] Edited August 9, 2004 by Daedalus Mortality Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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