Posts posted by Lerkot
19 hours ago, fan 4ever said:
On 4/9/2022 at 2:17 PM, TWright said:
Mr. Smith. You should consider some new music take the kids with you they very talented. So is your wife and don't forget to legally step on the Oscars while doing so.
Indeed he should make some new music but I prefer if he leaves his weird family out of it and go play with Jeff instead.
Meanwhile Chris Rock will be back next year with a very funny monologue about Bruce Willis...
17 hours ago, Michelle said:
Nobody touches my Rock.
This is obviously factually wrong...
As for his movies and shows no one else seems to be watching them either so welcome to the club.
29 minutes ago, JumpinJack AJ said:
The event has been covered so much at this point that I think a lot of people are getting sick of it. I think the media will start to slowly let go until the Red Table Talk or some other related event involving Will or Chris occurs. If you scour YouTube, you'll find much more diverse opinions that place blame here and there. Jada is taking heat in a lot of it. That memes are still coming. Occasionally I feel guilty for finding some of them kind of funny. I was randomly looking at items on ebay and there's quite a few shirts with memes and pictures of the slap on it. I think that once we REALLY hear from Will and Chris, it will truly start to taper off with a sense of closure.
Yup media etc milking this story more than Switch was milked back in 2005...
2 hours ago, gosia said:
This is getting intresting https://www.tmz.com/2022/03/31/academy-lied-asking-will-smith-to-leave-oscars-slap-chris-rock/
The line between the golden triangle of Interesting, Weird and Completely Effing Dumb is a fine one...
9 hours ago, Hero1 said:
The Academy just released a statement:
The fact that Will was asked to leave and refused is very bad. I have a feeling he is going to be expelled from the Academy and this could signal the end of Will's movie career. How many people in Hollywood would want to work with him now?
I wonder at what point they asked him to leave, immediatly or after the whole thing but before the party? I mean if they really wanted to throw him out its not like they couldnt have done it, they probably have quite a few armed guards and ****.
Anyway, I seriously doubt he'll be expelled from Hollywood (maybe from future Academy Awards howeveer) and quite a few actors has shown support for him... but expelled from Hollywood, I think you are quite off target if you think morale reasons would stand above possibly earning a couple of hundred million dollars from his movies, its not like Hollywood has excellent track record when it comes to this... wifebeaters, paedos, murderers and whatnot in every corner of the film industry... Mel Gibson bashing jews for years but as soon as he wants to do Lethal Weapon 5 and make a few hundred million bucks for Warner Bros: "welcome back!"
19 hours ago, Hero1 said:
Jada using Will's mental breakdown for some views on her red table talk I find extremely unsavoury. Wasn't the entanglement episode of that enough humiliation for Will? And now she is going to do it again with more of her psycho-babble? Not happy about this at all. Will get away from that toxicity and get back to being yourself.
"Using Will's mental breakdown"? She was the one who got mocked in front of millions of people! Out of the three involved, she - if anyone - has all the right to say whatever she wants through whatever meda she wants to tell it, because she was the victim in this case.
4 hours ago, Hero1 said:
I think I kind of agree with both @DefCEM and @JumpinJack AJ on this. One, I think it could be some excellent therapy for Will to go into the studio and get his thoughts out. I do also agree, and maybe you haven't been following it closely enough but this isn't an isolated incident from Will - he's lost his discipline - have a look at Will's fitness TV show where he basically quit, read the last couple of chapters of Will's book, I definitely think he is on some kind of spiral and that is what ended in the slap. So @Lerkot
as an isolated incident maybe it isn't a big deal but if you step back and look at the big picture Will has gone from an extremely disciplined person to someone who looks like he is crying out for help and confused.
Is the truth that simple though?
I bet that he, like everyone, has always had his demons and struggles, we really just never got to see it.
To me he behaves like pretty much any 50+ bloke who came late to the Internet/social media party: oversharing, publicly expressing things that soon were percieved as weird... I remember the first years after 2008 when Facebook really became popular: people talking openly about their love issues, people posting all kinds of ugly pictures from parties and whatnot, but after a year or two or three the vast majority of us learned - as a society and as individuals - the cost of this openness. I think Will missed out on that whole thing and is now learning it the painful way... along with obscene numbers of other late-to-the-party oldies who are posting all kinds of embarrasing **** everywhere.
1 hour ago, DefCEM said:
Agreed. This incident has probably damaged his reputation permanently. I don’t think he‘ll be respected as an artist as he used to be.
Stripping away the Oscar and never invite him again would be the only logical consequence in my opinion. He disgraced and disrespected the whole legacy of that show.
I’d be OK if he released a new oldskool kinda track here and there for nostalgic reasons, but I can’t really get into „Will Smith“ as that person became somebody I don’t like anymore.
Disgraced and disrespected... I mean the Academy Award people are obviously furious with him in public but in reality they love it. No one watches the Academy Awards these days, main reason being that it is dull as dishwater. There's nothing to disrespect really... and it will all be forgotten in a year or two. People are making a meal out of this minute of fury; I'm fairly sure Chris and Will shook hands and moved on not long after the show. The whole thing is shrug worthy really. Was a heated moment, bit of a dumb slap, no one got injured, life goes on.
As for reputation... do you think a bad reputation or bad behaviour stops any artist from being popular? That has never been the case. What on earth indicates that doing dumb stuff would make you any less respected as an artist? The Travis Scott bloke watched his fans died, shrugged and... what happened? Probably sold more of his ****e music than ever before. And dont get me started on that Kanye bloke.
I also find the whole "no he shouldnt be doing music, he should be taking care of his mental health". Why are those opposites if he loves music? What is he going to do in order to feel better - stare into a wall? Not sure it is particularly efficient. He should do what he loves, whatever that is.
2 hours ago, fan 4ever said:
I totally agree. He has been posting these inspirational videos for years but when it comes to apologizing for one of the biggest media storms in years he just puts up some text? Not enough if you ask me.
Might be coming a longer video on the topic.
We're accustomed to everything happening within five minutes these days... for no good reason. If it is like Puff Daddy or Piff Diddy - or whatever his name is - says, that they made up, then the vultures (us and the media) should just go take a chill pill because Will and Chris really dont owe us anything... Will/Jada were hurt by words, Chris by a slap, for us it was harmless.
2 hours ago, Hero1 said:
Will has finally achieved his Oscar which he strived to get for 25 years. He's achieved all he wanted in movies. Is now the time for him to return to rap and put out another album? He would have a lot of things to say I'm sure.
I dunno, maybe he should go into something slightly calmer... Watercolor painting maybe?
28 minutes ago, DefCEM said:
I haven’t been online here in ages and just had to come and share my feelings.
I am really shocked and disappointed of his behavior and think that this is unacceptable. He didn’t even apologize to Chris at his speech.
As a long time JJFP fan I must say, that the Fresh Prince I used to like and watch and listen to is no more. Will totally lost his sense of responsibility as an artist.. what it means to be a role model. He shouldn’t have made his private life so public in the first place. All that red table talk and stuff totally screwed him up. The showbiz is not the place to elaborate and therapy your life.
my respect for him is on a low point and honestly he is more and more becoming an example on how NOT to do things in life.
What a shame. I won’t support him anymore and will stick with his old stuff. But nonetheless I hope he’ll get out of this mess…
I disagree. Chris Rock made a joke about a medical decision that Jada might be sensitive about and Will showed empathy.
Chris Rock deserved to be slapped. If anything, this made me regain some respect for him. As long as I dont have to watch any of his movies, I wish him the best.
Bit out of balance? Obviously.
But having thought about this... if my (highly hypothetical..) wife has a medical condition she is sensitive about and some clown makes a joke about it in front of millions of people, it is sort of your duty as the husband to go slap that worn out comedian in the face. Was it clever? Not particularly... but entirely understandable. This slap was a better decision than his last dozen movies or so.
First good track in 15 years, really like it. Hope he keeps it up!
10 hours ago, fan 4ever said:
Bad Boys 4 Script Draft Is Currently Being Worked On
At some point enough is enough.
On 9/19/2004 at 8:09 PM, KevTastic said:
You'll get it sooner or later mate, keep looking and checking ebay if you wanna buy offline
Ok ye I found it now
Its probably going to remain pretty dead... most boards are (except the ones about sport). But if Will were to announce a new album I could easily see how there would be massive activity for a few months.
That would be fun, despite Will's releases the last two years have been pretty... ****.
I doubt there will be any more full length albums but I do hope we get at least a bit more in the 2020s.
Also, some of these tracks, like Get Lit (truly awful) are facepalm levels of bad while the latino ****, personally, dont really do it for me. I'd swap all the music the last ten years for one good, Jeff-produced FP track.
Yes. There is a list. Google it.
And no, no JJFP, but LL Cool J on third place though.
Cant take anyone who lists The Sugarhill Gang seriously though.
Random stuff! I hope we get a really clear and nice video from it. Guessing it will be a lot of the "super hits" since its abroad but cant really complain about anything at this point.
Its just not gonna happen. Might get a song or verse or show here and there, but Will Smith/JJFP is never going to release another album.
I have a bad feeling they are going to take this excellent concept/idea and destrpy it by letting the second half of it becoming some Michael Bay action fiesta. I've seen it so many times in Hollywood. I hope not though as it look interesting.
7 hours ago, analogue said:
I wish they'd do a concert where they don't play any of the Will Smith solo stuff and only play JJFP songs. Nothing against the WS tracks, I love them, but it would be refreshing to here something that isn't MIB, Jiggy, Switch and Miami for a change
I think he worries about alienating the crowd he performs in front of. Most of the times Will or JJFP play live nowadays, they do it in front of people who came to see multiple acts or dont really have a deep connection to hiphop or JJFP. They want the "Gettin Jiggy Wit It" **** and Will probably feels it would be weird to leave those famous songs out. I do agree though. Will's time as a super-super-celeb is behind him, he has nothing to prove, and he should focus more on what he likes rather than what people wants.
the website is back... and updated
in Caught in the Middle
Time to merge all the subforums (or just reduce it to two, JJFP and Off-topic) now Tim... Instead of five or six inactive subforums I think it could result in one slightly active forum.