Big Willie

What you're not understanding is, no-one is denying Hitler as a bad/evil man. We all agree with your points and facts about him, you don't need to keep dropping different scenarios, because we agree he was evil. It's simply being said that he himself, didn't see his actions as wrong. All these scenarios are pointless because they don't solve the problem in this discussion, the problem is, whatever Hitler may have done, sick as it was, and yes we agree it was sick, Hitler thought he was doing good. It would be exactly the same, again, no-one is saying Hitler was a good man, we're just saying in his mind, he thought his actions we're justified. I'm getting bored of saying that :lol:

1, I can write what I want. 2, no it wouldn't make you a good person. But if you saw nothing wrong with you're actions you'd think you we're doing good. You are seriously completely missing the point. No-one is saying what Hitler did was good, all that's being said is Hitler thought it was good. I like you and most other people, am disgusted by what Hitler did, but he didn't see a problem with his actions.

No, it doesn't make you a good person to everyone else, but if you believed it was right. Then you'd perceive yourself as good. That's the whole point.

Again, no-one is denying the severity of his evil, no-one is saying it was for good, no-one is saying we should forgive and forget and no-one is saying his actions we're justified. We all agree his actions we're bad, and he was a bad man. But the key to this article and this many repetitive posts is, Hitler thought what he was doing was good, whether it was or not, he though his actiosn we're justified. You can bring out as many facts as you want regarding how evil he was, you can keep saying as much as you want how bad his actions we're, we all know that, but the point of this and the reasoning behind Will's comment is that Hitler himself, thought his actions we're justified.

Yeah, he wanted to do what we perceive as bad, to him, it wasn't bad, it was good!

No-one is doubting how evil he was, just stating that, by the article, all that's being said is Hitler thought it was good.

I agree it was good for no-one, but that doesn't stop Hitler thinking it was good. Some people are ****ed up, and their mentality tells them twisted things are right/good. It's the way some people are. I'll say it again; It's not forgivable, it's not justifiable, it's not right, it is sick and twisted. But Hitler didn't see it that way.

I get the feeling I'll reach 1,000 posts on this conversation I don't think we need to forgive him, his actions we're unforgivable, you and I know that, but Hitler thought what he was doing was right. Obviously it wasn't, but as you described, he was probably mentally ill, so he believed he was doing good. It's not forgivable, it's not justifiable, it's not right, and it's sick and twisted. But Hitler didn't see it that way.

You really need to read what people write. Has anyone said that? Has anyone said his actions we're forgivable or justified? All that's been said is that, sick and twisted as it may be, Hitler thought (key word) he was doing good by the atrocities he brought upon people and the world.

I don't see what there is to get irate about. In my opinion yes, Hitler was bad, in the majority of peoples opinions, yes Hitler was bad. But in Hitlers twisted mind, he saw no wrong in what he was doing. It in no way justifies his actions, but he sincerely didn't see a problem with what he was doing.

I didn't say it was good, neither did Will. Hitler thought he was doing good.

He probably did plan the evil things he did, but in his mind, they were good.

That's what makes WS's comment true. In Hitlers twisted mind, he thought what he was doing was good, that's all Will was saying. If this article is even true.

He's right... It's the same with people today. People who do moronic things, in our opinions, feel they are perfectly justified actions in their own mind. To someone like me or you or Will, the things Hitler did we're devastating and disgusting, but to Hitler, it was normality. I don't believe this article is real though.

Just uploaded this to YouTube as well. I can put up a download if anyone wants it :thumbsup:

Will on Jonathan Ross tonight. Expect a video on YouTube tomorrow :thumbsup:

Julies verse was more consistent, my vote goes to her!

Sick final punchline... Brakes took this for me!

Will is on Jonathan Ross December 14th in the UK. BBC1 10:35pm. I'll be recording it and uploading to YouTube :thumbsup:

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No denying Manning's ability, he is incredible. Romo is playing well too, and Favre is rolling back the years and has made the Packers a serious contender. But Brady, IMO, is lights out. Big props to Derek Anderson as well, he's having a hell of a season.

Umm... no. That would be Peyton Manning, of course. Not in my opinion.

For a second there I thought this was about the Hatton - Mayweather fight... something important :lolsign: For the record... Brady is the best QB in the league, Moss is probably the best WR in the league, although when you have Brady it's hard not to rack up yards and TD's, Pat's will go undefeated and a Superbowl victory will probably follow. Just my opinion! P.S: Minnesota are gonna be big in the future, near future. Peterson has been a revelation, shame about his injury!

I don't see how it would matter either way, if he converted or not. It's his choice at the end of the day. WS.com has a thread about Scientology and Will. Makes me glad I'm not religious. http://willsmith.com/message/thread.cfm?me...1967&page=1

It's for the new website I'm working on, I've deleted my old account.