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I know as sad as that might sound for you to hear Nelly and KRS do a track together I think it'd be something that'd get the current rap fans to pay attention to the message that beef ain't serious 'cause all the kids who listen to Nelly'd pay attention to it, that'd be a way for KRS to draw in a younger audience too more than it'd be with Marley Marl and KRS doing this collab album that only the older fans on the most part are gonna check for, not many younger fans even know who they are in the first place so how is that message gonna get to the youth? Think about it man, it'd be a great thing for hip-hop, it'll bridge the gap between ol' school and new school hip-hop fans who always seem to be on the opposite side of the fence, but then again people only seem to pay attention when rappers beef so that might not work either, lol, the main thing is that as long as KRS and Nelly don't diss each other anymore it's all good 'cause we don't need generations to be beefing with each other... The funny thing about KRS is that he started his career just like a lot of these rappers do today by dissing the most popular rap artists out which is what he did when he made "South Bronx" dissing Juice Crew, basically other rappers followed along with that trend when they started their careers but I guess KRS is finally putting his ego to the side here working with Marley Marl, maybe at least some current rappers might take heed to this especially if they drop some classic material here, artists working together is the best thing for hip-hop, beef is getting tiredsome, KRS and Marley Marl should put on rappers on their album as guests that beefed with each other on there like Nas and Jay-Z, Ice-T amd LL, maybe even Will and Eminem, but I guess that'd be like hell freezing over if there was that much love in hip-hop, lol...

Hip-hop started in the late '70s not the late '90s, you can't start talkin' about the history of hip-hop by talking about Eminem, you ain't a true hip-hop fan if you don't know the history, there were 20 years of rappers who paved a path for him that deserve the recognition for what they did, we should be giving props to cats like Kurtis Blow like we give to Jackie Robinson 'cause he was a true pioneer, and you're right my theory is flawed comparing Will to Michael Jordan 'cause the music industry doesn't respect the legends of the game the way the NBA respects it's pioneers and hall of famers, it's like in the NBA the great players get positions in the front office after their career's over and their jersey's raised to the rafters but the great rappers don't get no position in the rap game after they fall from the spotlight, the label drops them and that's it, Michael Jordan didn't win MVP in his last year he played but he still got honored the game he retired, it's just like Will didn't win a Grammy on his last album but if he announced his retirement now MTV wouldn't do a tribute show for him or anything like that, the problem with the game like I said earlier is that the pioneers are not honored the way they should be, btw speaking of films what happened to Kool Moe Dee's "There's A God On The Mic" that was based on the book that he wrote? I think Will's supposed to be in that film since he's featured in the book, that needs to come out and blow up so all the pioneers could get their due, and btw 50 Cent and Eminem ain't gonna stay on top forever either, the industry'll shove them off to the side one day too, karma'll catch up to them, one day things are gonna get better, it can't get worse, and I think Will has a chance to be around for many more years to come as long as he wants to but it should be at this point just doing it for the love of the game, at this point in his career he should be able to relax and enjoy his success and have a new generation of talented rappers carry the game, he shouldn't have to have pressure to save the game since he's given so much to it already, ultimately though if there's no attention to the pioneers of hip-hop I think that it'll eventually die out like disco, hip-hop needs organization, and the problem starts at the top with the record labels, they don't sign the most lyrically gifted rappers anymore, the part of the solution would be to put give the legendary rappers who don't make albums anymore like Kurtis Blow a position at the record labels where they could get a job to help sign the best talented artists as possible like they do in the NBA when they give the great players who retired a front office or coaching job to help the new generation of players, there's probably millions of people out there with more skill to make better songs than "Laffy Taffy" but they won't get signed if they don't rap the generic thug life image, that's why Kel Spencer don't have a record deal yet while 50 Cent's selling 5 million, if they freestyle battled each other on MTV Kel would rip 50 badly and the world would see it but the industry don't want that to happen though, and getting back to the basketball anology that'd be like if the teams didn't sign the best players and just took scrubs off the street and put them in the games, but that's the way the music industry is now, they just look for the next 2Pac and Biggie clone even if they don't have 1/10 of the talent they had but it's all about image and fashion rather than skill so they'll give that person a record deal while the cat who could freestyle for days can't get signed 'cause he don't rap about guns or hoes in any of his rhymes, I bet if I made a demo tape rapping about peace and another demo tape about how much guns I had and sent it to a record company I bet you that if the record label called me back they'd say they were more impressed with the demo that I rapped about guns on The way hip-hop is promoted now you hear more about who's dissing who, who got shot, or who got the most money or girls rather than who got the most skills on the mic, hip-hop is like hip-pop now, 50 Cent is like Britney Spears, they make the headlines but there's many artists better than them, the way I see it going 50 Cent'll be remembered for the death of hip-hop if s*** doesn't get together soon enough, the record labels are exploiting and destroying the image of hip-hop and I think that people will get tired of it sooner or later if they don't put more energy into promoting the creative artists, Will could put Common, Nas, and Kel Spencer all on his compilation album but if Interscope don't promote it as much as 50 Cent then it won't make much of an impact, what I mean by that is that the radio and video stations can't resist playing it and we need more than one single to be released in 9 months Interscope, it seems that the record labels and viacom have the ball on their court controlling who's on top more than the artists do, they ban certain artists from getting airplay 'cause they ain't thug enough while years ago it was the opposite where gangsta rap didn't get played when they were concerned about image but since gangsta rap starting making more money they decided to profit off of it and forgot about image

Didn't Bow Wow recently release a roller skating movie?

I think both albums are dope but "New Whirl Odor" is better to me...

It sounds like a great idea but I'm afraid it might be 10-15 years too late 'cause they ain't that popular anymore and most kids don't even know who they are sadly so it'll be hard for this album to make an impact like they want it too, btw if Jay-Z really wants to save hip-hop he should sign them to Def Jam and they could release the album there and their message will be heard by more peeps than being on Koch but ultimately though most contemporary fans still won't be able to relate to hip-hop beef not being serious unless KRS squashes his beef with Nelly and they do something together

One-Time Rivals Marley Marl And KRS-One Record Album By Houston Williams Date: 3/30/2006 5:45 pm KRS-One and DJ Marley Marl will sonically end one of the most infamous and revered beefs in Hip-Hop history. The pair intends to drop a new album on Koch Records. Both were involved in a long-running dispute after Marley Marl and MC Shan recorded the seminal 1985 record, "The Bridge," an ode to Queensbridge, New York. South Bronx MC KRS-One, backed by Boogie Down Productions, took offense to the song, which some say implies that Hip-Hop started in Queens. KRS-One shot back with "South Bronx," claiming the South Bronx as the true birthplace of Hip-Hop. Several other dis records were released at the height of the battle, including MC Shan's "Kill That Noise" and KRS One's "The Bridge Is Over." With the saturation of beef in the Hip-Hop market, Marley said that he wanted to make a definitive statement to the youth. Marley stated that the process of recording this album with KRS-One started simply. "It all happened with one phone call," Marley Marl told AllHipHop.com. "They called me and he jumped on the phone and told me it would be spectacular for Hip-Hop." As a producer, Marley Marl has helped launch the careers of Hip-Hop talents like the Juice Crew's Big Daddy Kane, Kool G Rap, Master Ace, Craig G, Roxanne Shante and MC Shan, among others. Additionally, Marley resuscitated LL Cool J's career when he produced "Mama Said Knock You Out" and hit it big producing early hits for R&B group TLC. "My reason for doing this is to show these kids that [Hip-Hop beefs] are not that serious," he concluded. The Queensbridge legend further stated that KRS-One was still laying vocals, but he was extremely excited to be working with his one-time rival. "He's finishing up his portion. It's gonna be crazy," Marley stated. "We got sick beats." The untitled album is slated to hit stores this summer.

Thats the point though, students become doctors for the money or because they are passionate about saving people. Rappers/Singers get into the industry to either spread their message and/or to make lots of money. I think many of you have forgotton what music is all about. It's about having a good time and listening to things that sound good. I'm not dissing Wills Music, cause his stuff isnt promoted a lot. However, you can't diss whack rappers who've sold out, because they've come from the streets with no money, and once they have a taste of it, who cares if your rapping is watered down to cater to the masses. Music is about having fun and if all a song has is Boom Bump Boom (Base Effects)... Then so be it. All I want is for Will Smith to be recognized as an Actor and a Rapper in the history books. And unless Will Smith Does something monumental with RAP/HipHop, in a Hip Hop Generation, I don't his image of a Rapper will remain. Will Smith's reputation in hip hop like slick rick, rakim and others previously mentioned was more prevalent to the hip hop community back when Hip Hop wasn't popular. Now in a generation when every type of person is familiar with hip hop, Will Smith's rep is not as prevalent. ...2bcontinued Will don't need to do anything more groundbreakin' for hip-hop at this point, if winning the 1st ever rap grammy that helped solidify hip-hop/rap as a legit music genre, help rap artists get legit movie roles, and selling 30 million albums in 20 years ain't groundbreaking then I guess Michael Jordan needs to make a comeback to the NBA since winning 6 championships and MVPs ain't groundbreakin' enough, lol, do your research youngeon and you'll see that Will's done many GROUNDBREAKIN' things for hip-hop that none of these rappers today will ever accomplish, Will's legacy is set and he's respected by anyone who respects the history of hip-hop, the problem with hip-hop is that a lot of the young peeps don't respect the history and think that hip-hop is only about pimpin' and hot beats and they don't respect the artists who make music with substance, especially the ones who opened doors so all these cats could eat now, but that's ok though Will don't need to change who he is just to please them 'cause he got enough people out there that respect him for the artist and person he is, it's a marthon, not a sprint, those who choose to change who they are just to sell more albums now won't be around to sell anything many years from now while Will's gonna continually have a loyal fanbase as long as he's living and continues to entertain us and btw he proves that you could still have heart and make millions at the same time since he's one of the richest men in the world, making much more than those rappers that change their image, like DMC said about him: "Nice guys like him could finish first", I look at Will as an inspiration

Big Boi's supposed to be in it too so it might not be so bad but I'm still not gonna see it right away unless I hear that it's good, then again since Will's involved with producing I wouldn't expect the movie to be wack

I'm sure if Dave Chapelle called Will and asked him to perform for the movie then he would and btw I gotta agree with AJ, basically Dr. Dre is just riding the commercial bandwagon, he don't care about making music from the heart anymore, he's just in it for the $$$$, basically most of the fans he has left now don't know nothing about when he was at the peak of his music career, he just lives off the G Unit teenyboppers, hopefully when they fall off soons he actually comes to his senses or just give it up, that's the one thing that people respect about Will 'cause he don't "follow everybody when it's time to rap" just to get a hit and "when every rapper's done tellin' you to jump he gives you what you really want"

Well I saw that tour schedule on the publicenemy.com homepage, I think they did a few shows in Europe last November, I remember seeing something back then saying that they did some shows there, yeah I think some of the beats were a bit more laid back than your typical PE sound but they're dope though, Paris is definately one of the most underrated producers

:word: btw, there's gonna be some Public Enemy shows in Australia next month, just in case Tim or if anyone else on the board is from there and're interested: Public Enemy Returns To OZ Tour 55 April 7 St James Theatre/Auckland April 8 West Coast Blues & Roots/Perth April 9 Metro/Perth April 10 off April 11 Adelaide Thebarton Theatre/Adelaide April 12 Enmore Theatre/Sydney April 13 The Palace Nightclub/Melbourne April 14 East Coast Blues & Roots/Byron Bay April 15 The Arena/Brisbane April 16 East Cost Blues & Roots/Byron Bay

Snoop Dogg Concert Cancelled After Pressure From Nevada Authorities By Chris Richburg Date: 3/30/2006 8:00 am A previously scheduled concert in Las Vegas, Nevada featuring rapper Snoop Dogg has been cancelled. The Wall Street Journal reported that Snoop was scheduled to headline a recent private party held by Molson Coors Brewing at the Rio Hotel in Las Vegas. However, the rapper's performance was stopped after Harrah's Entertainment, the hotel's parent company, asked Coors to cancel the show in light of pressure from local law-enforcement authorities and Nevada's Gaming Control Board, according to several people close to the situation. Sheriff Bill Young of the Las Vegas Metropolitan Police Department recently sent a letter to state gambling regulators urging them to discourage casinos from booking rappers. That was followed by a letter from Nevada's State Gaming Control Board which expressed particular concern about "gangster rap." The letters came after the deaths of four local rappers last June and the recent death of a police officer who was murdered by an aspiring Las Vegas rapper. Less than two weeks after Harrah's received the letter, the company asked Coors executives to remove Snoop from the show. People involved told The Wall Street Journal that Snoop would have been paid about $150,000 for the performance. The rapper declined to comment

Well then the same could be said about Beastie Boys too, they basically drop albums every 6 years or so just like Dre and Ice Cube have lately, anyway the point is not many have been in the game as long or have the popularity that Will has had in his career

Well the Beastie Boys make it Platinum everytime.. But I dont know, they are just a diffrent story. I agree on tha rest you said too. Ice Cube too, he'll probably go platinum again, he's getting a lot of hype for his new album already and he hasn't dropped one in 6 years

Yeah this does seem more like a Paris feat. Public Enemy album rather than the other way around, Chuck D said in an interview that he was too busy to have time to be able to write this album so he asked Paris to write lyrics for this album, it was supposed to be an experiment album that he wanted to do with Paris 'cause he has a lot of respect for him and he said he'd do the project with nobody else 'cause he's probably his closest friend in the industry, I think it was done to help Paris get some shine since he's been slept on for years, Chuck was trying to help him out here, btw I'm sure you wouldn't mind if Kel Spencer wrote all of one of Will's albums if he dropped albums every six months, cut Chuck D some slack man, he's one of the hardest working cats in the rap game constantly touring and doing lectures and radio shows... I agree that "New Whirl Odor" is much better and I'm hoping that the next album "How You Sell Your Souls To Souless People" is gonna be better than "Rebirth Of A Nation", Chuck D said that it's gonna be a regular PE album and he'll write all the lyrics for it so it should be better

Yeah I don't see what all this TI hype is about, he's an average rapper at best, I don't understand why Will'd try to hype up his career by producing a movie for him that comes out the same week as his album, hearing Will producing a movie for TI is just as puzzling as hearing is gonna Michael Jackson collab with 50 Cent, I just don't get how legends could waste their time working with artists that're way below their levels like this, I don't care for seeing his film or his album this week, Will's the real "King" of the mic and big screen, btw I ain't really that big of a Ghostface/Wu-Tang fan but if it's a dope album I might eventually check for it 'cause Wu-Tang got more credability than most of these wack rappers out now

:word: This thread is pointless, there was other great hip-hop artists that weren't on that soundtrack/film either but that don't take away from them, everybody does different things to shine, I mean how many of them performed at Live 8? And most importantly how many rappers released at least 9 albums in their careers? Rapping is definately a top priority for Will, I mean how many rappers his age are still making albums every 3 years at the most? Will doesn't need to be like a new artist and overexpose himself by doing a million performances or guest appearances to get shine, he could announce that he's going perform somewhere tomorrow and it'd sell out, the way you're talking you're sounding ignorant like "Lost and Found" was his only album he made, he's not a new artist, he's been in the game for 2 decades now, he could drop an album whenever the **** he wants to and it'll go at least gold, who else could you say that about? Besides LL Cool J, nobody else comes to mind and he wasn't in the film either so that takes away his credability too?, lol, stop being so negative and look at the brighter side, he's done so many things that other rappers could only dream of acclompishing...

Celebrities Support T.I.'s 'ATL' ; T.I., Director Chris Robinson Speak By Dawn Danz Date: 3/28/2006 5:45 pm Last night (March 27), a number of tastemakers, artists and label executives gathered at The Bombay Sapphire Lounge at Tribeca Cinemas in New York City for the red carpet premiere of T.I.'s debut film ATL. The Chris Robinson-directed film tells the story of four teenage friends growing up on Atlanta's south side while going through various trials and tribulations. "To me the film is about dreams and that anything is possible," Chris Robinson told AllHipHop.com. "You can stray from your path or you can not want to know what you gonna do but as long as you stay focused anything is possible." "It was a great script. The script came to me--- it had a lot of heart and soul in it," Robinson continued. "It just crushed me in that way where I felt like I went through this experience and I wanted to make people feel something. I wanted to tell a story and create characters that really touched people." The film also shows the versatility and growth that the self-proclaimed King of the South has experienced. Warner Music Group president, Kevin Liles told AllHipHop.com, "The movie did a good job of representing the T.I. brand and Grand Hustle brand. Chris Robinson is one of the greatest directors out there and I wish him the best of luck." Queen Latifah, Usher, Will Smith, Jada Pinkett Smith, DJ Drama, T.I.'s group the P$C, Avery Storm, Tisha Campbell and Duane Martin were among the attendees at the premiere. "I appreciate all of the love and support; I appreciate the warm welcome into the film industry. I appreciate the opportunity to be involved with such a film of this magnitude," T.I. told AllHipHop.com. "This really helps my movement and if anybody follows my career they know how important it is for me to lead than to follow. Warner Bros., Chris Robinson and the cast made this possible for me and I really appreciate it. I done did everything, now I just got to sit back and let it go." ATL hits theaters nationwide on Friday (March 31). In related news, T.I. released his fourth solo effort, King, today. The album features cameos by Young Jeezy, Jamie Foxx, UGK, BG, Young Dro and more, as well as production from Just Blaze, DJ Toomp, Neptunes and others.

Rev. Run Talks 'Words of Wisdom,' New Projects By Chris Richburg Date: 3/28/2006 1:09 pm Rev. Run's new book Rev. Run's Words of Wisdom has arrived in stores. Published by Harpers Collins, the book was inspired by the motivational message the Run-DMC member offers friends and viewers of his hit MTV show Run's House. The first 5,000 people to purchase the book will be added to Rev. Run's personal e-mail list. "More people wanted the words of wisdom because of the television show. So I said 'I can't reach everyone,' so I put out a book," the minister/rapper said. "Harper Collins wanted to do a book on Rev. Run's words of wisdom, so here we are." Rev. Run first entered the literary world with It's Like That: A Spiritual Memoir. He hopes readers will gather "hope, strength, courage and a deeper prayer life" from reading the new book. Run also revealed that Words of Wisdom is an extension of his ministry, stating, "It's really what I use. What I'm doing when I'm writing these words of wisdom, is you guys are hearing me think out loud. So whatever I'm going through, that night, that morning, all around those moments and however I get though it, again, I just give it out. So yes, it's my ministry. It's me preaching to you. And you get a word. For some people this is the only church they'll ever get." In addition to promoting his new book, Rev. Run is currently filming the second season of Run's House. "The new season will be similar to last season," said Rev. Run, who added the show will feature "situations going on in my home, with a point" as well as showing him as a father, rapper and priest. "I think the show is sort of a self-help show. Like you buy self-help books, this is a self-help show," he said. "It shows a man raising his family. I mean, it's funny. It's going to be funny of course but Run-DMC always snuck a message to you. There was always a message, but you still get the street feeling. That's my job, to get you a message but then at the same time, not throw a sermon down your throat." Rev. Run also recently hooked up with Jeanne Ashe, wife of the late Arthur Ashe for a new Arthur Ashe sneaker. The shoe, which was created by Run Athletics, is currently in stores along with the new Legacy sneaker. On a musical note, the remix for Run's current single "I Used to Think I was Run" will hit airwaves in the coming weeks. The Jermaine Dupri-produced track features Dupri and Da Brat. Rev. Run's Words of Wisdom is in stores now. The second season of Run's House premieres in June on MTV.

Hell has officially frozen over if this happens :shakehead:

*-playoff spot 1* Maize 125-63-1 .664 2* VipaGTS 116-71-2 .619 3* MaxFly 112-72-5 .606 4* Big Ted 05-06 104-85-0 .550 21.5 5* Powers Domination 92-96-1 .489 3 6* Jonas's champs 86-98-5 .468 7 James 76ers 84-100-5 .458 8 And1 82-103-4 .444 9 Top Dawg's House 74-112-3 .399 10 Hierollas 55-130-4 .302 Well the way this reads the matchups are: MaxFly vs. Jona's Champs Big Ted vs. Powers Domination Bye: VipaGTS, Maize Eliminated from playoffs: James 76ers, And1, Top Dawg's House, Hierollas

I think a Big Will and Uncle L album with production by Jazzy Jeff and Marley Marl would be the best collab album ever

Are you sure? I think you transposed a 0 in there or something. And as far as Will's "bad" stuff, I'd like to hear just how bad it really is. I remember seeing Ne-Yo on 106 & Park and saying that, I think he might've been exaggerating though just to hype himself up, since he writes for a lot of singers maybe a lot of those songs will be going to other singers

Honestly I don't mind if he does collab with Dipset, maybe he'll get younger fans if he does that, hopefully his older fans won't say he's selling out for doing that but honestly I don't see it as a bad thing as long as he drops some dope rhymes, yeah Will definately got a lot of love for Rakim and I think that if Will collabed with Rakim that'd also surprise a lot of people, a lot of wack mcs will be dropping their mics

i doubt that will'd do something like that, although i wouldn't mind if he did say that to terrance either, btw i heard that terrance howard criticised three six mafia's performance but wasn't he the one who performed the song in the movie? he waits until his check comes in to complain :kekeke: