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That song's really deep, that really sounds similar to "Afro Angel"! Thanks! :rock:

Enough props to both Jazzy Julie and Hero1 who posted great freestyles in a tight battle!

[quote=Hero1,May 23 2004, 05:03 PM]they said wills career was dead after and in this corner..they said wills career was dead after code red.. you are saying his career is dead after born to reign..discount will at your own peril :eek4: [/quote] Look at how many comebacks Jordan made in the NBA(he won 3 rings after he retired in nine-trey and was still one of the best before he finally retired last year for the last time, we think) and how many times LL Cool J revitalized his rap career after sub-par albums(his career's the closest mirror image to FP), so "don't call it a comeback" Big Will's also been here for years! :rock:

I like listening to a lot of JJFP but I could say that as I've gotten older, my favorites have changed. Back in '97(when I was 12), when I bought Big Willie Style on cassette(I bought it on CD last year when the volume on my cassette was getting low) I was in love wit "Gettin' Jiggy Wit It","Miami", and "Yes, Yes, Y'all", but when it was '99 I got "JJFP Greatest Hits" I loved "Boom Shake The Room" and in 2000 when I heard Willenium I loved listening to "Will 2K", but now I think that song's one of the weakest on Willenium and I like listening to "The Rain" and "Potnas" the most on there. I got "Code Red" last year and I love listening to "Can't Wait To Be With You" and "There's No Place Like Home", but my all-time favorite JJFP song since I turned 15 has been "I'm Lookin' For The One"(To Be Wit Me) wit Teddy Riley on the hook(a legendary producer and r&b performer). When I bought "Born To Reign" in 2002 when it came out, I loved "Block Party"(it brings back great memories of that summer) and I related to that song "Give Me Tonite" when I was trying to get with girls my senior year that already had boyfriends.(I also related "Let's Get busy, Baby" to that as well). I also bought Homebase and He's The DJ,I'm The Rapper last year and I enjoy a lotof that ****. Now that I turned 19 a few months ago I find myself listening to "Just The Two Of Us" and "Chasin' Forever" and I see that I'm more serious than I've ever been(maybe 'cause I'm not a kid anymore), but it's cool though how music could affect your life! :rock:

[quote=Daedalus Mortality,May 23 2004, 05:49 AM]Wills career is dead now actually..[/quote] His career is not dead, In 1997 Will released his best selling album after mediocre sales from "Code Red" so that is a foolish statement to make! You'll be right though if this album coming out does poorly from a sales standpoint but I couldn't see that happen 'cause he has too big of a fanbase(but a majority of them will probably download it like they did on "Born To Reign"). Wait and see though, after Will releases this album and goes multiplatinum, you'll look like a big dumbass, why you gotta be so negative? :cussing:

I remember this punk from my high school who claimed to know everythin' about hip-hop but when I mentioned in my freestyle to him"I'm gonna be a legend like Russel Simmons", he didn't know who he was, some people are just dumb and they just are too scared to admit it, I couldn't believe that though!

KRS-ONE's more of a street rapper but the one thing that they have in common is that they have longevity in the music game regardless of sales or not. I like them both 'cause they both have different styles than each other and I'm not dissin' KRS-ONE 'cause he's great too and so is LL(they're alsomy favorite rappers), but I'm just sayin' that Will's record sales have been more consistant over the time span the 3 have been in the game and that Will should get props for that like LL and KRS-ONE get for street credability in their longevity. And another point, I doubt that anyone will listen to Eminem in 2020(he won't even go gold), so he won't ever get to Will's level! You sound like a Will Smith hater to me :cussing: !

Those would have all been dope singles(except "Da Butta") to show that Will's more of a lyricist than people perceive him to be. He could have also released "Born To Reign" as well if it was longer than one verse 'cause that song had a lot of deep lyricism in that one verse(he could have added KRS-ONE or Chuck D to the song, but Columbia wouldn' allow that though). It all comes down to creative freedom with Will having to everything the way Columbia Records and a new label will be able to help get Will's credability back(as long as it's not a strictly pop label like Columbia, there's nothing wrong with Will going to a label like Def Jam or J Records to get that).

I think that Eminem sold more than Jay-Z did and he's probably closer to JJFP in record sales than Jay-Z is but that's not the point. His best album "Big Willie Style" sold more albums than most artists careers(I think even LL only sold 11 million copies in his 19 year career and KRS-ONE only sold 5 million in his 17 year career). Will Smith has something that a lot of rappers don't have which is longevity. As poorly as "Born To Reign" was KRS-ONE's last 3 albums combined probably didn't sell as much as "Born To Reign" so we have to put things in perspective here! More people in hip-hop gotta give Big Will the credit he deserves.

For some rappers beef could help boast your career: 50 Cent dissed Ja Rule and sold 8 million albums, Nas dissed Jay-Z and Stillmatic and God's Son both went multiplatinum when Nas struggled to go platinum since It Was Written came out. But for LL Cool J dissin' Cannibus, his sales went down(probably 'cause a lot of people never heard of Cannibus), since he tried changing his image from being an ol' school clean rapper like Will is and making "The G.O.A.T"( which would've been a better album if it had less cameos and cursing in it, you could tell that LL was not himself on that album). If Will Smith and Eminem had beef Will would be changing his style too much as I come to think about it and that would be wack!

[quote=Prince,May 22 2004, 09:15 AM]I don't think releasing it first on the internet would be a good idea... People would buy it yes, but more people would download it. By the time albums hit shelves, the majority of people would have downloaded the tracks they want anyway so the likelihood is they won't then go on to buy the album.[/quote] I think that happened when Born To Reign came out wit people downloading his music. I think he broke a record for most people downloading a song when "Black Suits Comin'" came out but the album "Born To Reign" sold even less records than Norega's album:"God's Favorite" when they were released at the same time, I don't think Norega ever went platinum in his career, so that wasn't a good look for Will Smith who probably sold more records than any rapper alive(only 2Pac sold more I think)! Majority of fans ain't loyal anyway so that's a good point that you made Prince, but I don't see why he shouldn't drop it on the internet and see what happens. It's almost summertime and I want somethin' that I could bump in my ride! :dancingcool: I wanna get that along with the new KRS-ONE and Nas that are droppin' in July 'cause they're 3 of my favorite rappers!

A lot of m.c's right now are too afraid to come up with somethin' different and just want to immitate what everyone else is doing just to go platinum but that's not the way I approach it! I appreciate the props that y'all are giving me, thanks! :peace:

That's a great idea! The true fans will get access to it before anyone else and there will probably be bonus material on it, it would be great if Will releases it on the summer on the Internet while he's finalizing his decison on a record label, when it'll probably hit the shelves around the Christmas holiday.

Slick Rick dissed Doug E. Fresh?!! :dunno:

Well they also dropped Mariah Carey who sold over 100 million records if I'm not mistaken and they also screwed Michael Jackson up as well, this label is trash!

[quote=TheFre$hPrince,May 20 2004, 07:53 AM]I don´t care if stuff is explicit or not, I just love music.[/quote] I just wanna hear hot music as well, it doesn't matter if you curse or not, if you got skills you got skills, I don't like how people think Will's soft just 'cause he doesn't curse on record! He's hip-hop just like 2Pac and Biggie are and I would have to have heard a song with the 3 of them if 2Pac and Biggie were alive 'cause their individual personalities would have made one creative song! Peace! :peace:

[quote=Hero1,May 20 2004, 07:21 AM]if they actually did do a fresh prince of bel air dvd what should be on it? heres my list: - every jazzy jeff & fresh prince music video - 100th episode special hosted by jazz - outtakes/bloopers - cast commentary for a few of the best episodes a season - original promos for the show - able to access the complete fresh prince of bel air theme - interview with quincy jones about the show - sum easter eggs..like the carlton dance - commentary by the writers - feature on the clothes/fashion of fpoba - interviews with the cast about the development of their characters[/quote] You pretty much summed it up! It would make me more hyped to buy it no matter how much the price is if it had all of that!

What's up y'all, check out a piece of a song that I recently wrote: "Uh,Uh,hip-hop lost its head Too much pop **** That's what we gotta stop again Few wanna stop it Many performers are knocked with the gimmick Taken over from them industry heads Who just wanna bust elementary lyrics With more imagery pics Taken the place along wit filthy graphics What kind of great generation are we livin' in? When controversy outsells talent Y'all check the Billboards And where is the ill tour That happened before m.c.'s decided to kill more On record, no one's clever New generation of hip-hop is one dead blur And it's for sure That it's on the pop scene But it's not the dream The pioneers like Scott La Roc, Eaz-e, 2Pac, and Biggie would have like to see If they were still breathin' There are no ill LP's Five mics are all killed or deceased Not like when Jeff and Will were on the scene Now they're a bunch of lies fill C.D's That real cats won't buy Until you go to the camera guy With ya ass showin' for one million C.d's people'll buy Just to look at the picture on the cover But when they pop the disc In their stereos they'll wonder Was payin' this money worth it But they say hey that tight butt seems to be worth it Music is just hideously worthless Where is the reality of the sense"

:rock: That was dope! How are you releasing your mix CD, do you have a record deal or a website for us to check you out? Holla!

Dope article! Jazzy Jeff is probably the smartest DJ of all time 'cause he always has a lot of deep things to say! If Will ever decided to run for president Jeff should be his running mate! :rock:

It's dope that it mentioned him hanging out wit Shaq! :rock: The article was John Blaze!

That's funny how that worked out 'cause Columbia dropped Wyclef last year too!! That label shows no respect to those legends! :cussing:

Get your keyboard checked, it could be broken, so you might have to get a new one, if you're having a problem typing then that means it's your keyboard.

I saw that show on Friday too and I was quite disappointed too that the guy didn't know Jazzy Jeff's real name, which is Jeff Townes, but at the same time I realise that a lot of the fans that are in the audience have been sucked in to only mainstream hip-hop that's out now! Even a lot of the freestyle battles on that show could get kind of weak sometimes 'cause all the winner has to do is shout out Free, AJ, and DJ Enuff during the freestyle to get the win and that's wack! :cussing: I don't watch 106&Park that much as I used to and I don't watch Direct Effect on MTV 'cause it becomes rather repetitive and uninteresting to watch 'cause most of my fav. videos/artists don't get airplay. 106&Park showed Erick Sermon's new video one time and nobody ever voted for it to get on the countdown! Hip-hop fans are too ignorant these days!

[quote=Daedalus Mortality,May 17 2004, 11:16 AM]Only males of the Negro race can rap. They seem to be born whit a natural talent to create sentancs that rhyme, and besides that the abbility to recite them rhytmicly to a beat. Tough Scientists can not explain why only Poor negro males can rap, wich seems to be the case. For some reason these talents only get unlocked when the individual has been exposed to alot of poverty and crime in the earlier stages of life, thus keeping it real. Youre Kind regards, Daedalus Mortality[/quote] Hey man, what rock are living under? Yeah, I'm black but that doesn't mean I'm more angry than anybody else is and all people of all races go through problems, we're trying to bridge the gap between racism and not create more, that's what makes hip-hop so special! It's able to bring people together and everyone is an individualist so that's an ignorant comment! I've been rapppin' for more than 4 years now and I learned that it's better to express my emotions in the songs I write and when I freestyle towards the things I like and dislike, but we all go through our ups and downs as humans so to just say black people go through **** is dumb!