Bob Posted July 8, 2008 Report Share Posted July 8, 2008 http://www.mtv.com/news/articles/1590443/2...3/50_cent.jhtml Yeah, people are still talking about the Ice-T vs. Soulja Boy Tell'em flap. The issue is much larger than the two artists; it's about the generation gap. What does the man the MTV News Hip-Hop Brain Trust voted the Greatest MC of All Time have to say? Jay-Z noted that it's essential to have the ying and the yang. "Well, I think there's a balance, right?" Jay said while he was in the U.K. to headline the Glastonbury music fest. "I think the newer guys have got to respect the foundation and what's been laid down for them. The older guys have got to respect what's coming up next. So, I know that sounds like a non-answer but that's just the truth. In hip-hop, it's all about balance. You've always had [Jazzy Jeff] and Fresh Prince when you had Rakim. There's always been a balance in hip-hop, and I think it's always needed. So, as long as we respect each other, 'Old school, new school, no school rules.' Doug E. Fresh, I guess." ^Really? I mean, ya FP at that point was doing light stuff, but he was consistent with material, and right from the get go was lyrically in-tune. "Wat me crank dat soulja boy and now wat me yoou" doesn't equate to Brand New Funk, etc. :thumbdown: Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
3cookies Posted July 8, 2008 Report Share Posted July 8, 2008 (edited) thx lil bro for the link. but i dont even wanna rad it, becaus Jay_z, in light of all his success is a $%^*%# idiot for even making that dam comparison. He must be smoking Beyonce's 2 week old weave.. lol. because that statement is str8t up. random... ok that was not nice but the weave.. but im just sayiN... idiot. xo, cookie Edited July 8, 2008 by 3cookies No reason for edit. Just wanted to come back & b*t@# slap Jay talkin smak bout Will. LOL Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Vipa Posted July 8, 2008 Report Share Posted July 8, 2008 (edited) He didn't compare them talent wise....He didn't say Soulja Boy is on the same level. He's basically saying that Hip Hop has always had different things, and variety. It never said JJFP wasn't good, just that they are different from Rakim, and both existed at and around the same time. At least that's how I interpreted it. I don't see this as anything to get upset over. Edited July 8, 2008 by Vipa Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
3cookies Posted July 8, 2008 Report Share Posted July 8, 2008 ok Vipa.. thx 4 clearing that up, becus eI thought it was a 'parallel' like the heading says... and didnt even read it, cuz i didnt want to waste my time reading that nonsense .. now im cool. but, Why did he have to mention Will of all people,... when he's trying to make a note or reference to a variety ? why not just compare Soulja Boii to himself if thas the case.. but thanx 4 clearing that up for me .. xo, cookie Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JumpinJack AJ Posted July 8, 2008 Report Share Posted July 8, 2008 I can't say i understand what Jay-Z is saying here. Is just just saying that Eric B. + Rakim were on a different tip from JJ+FP or was he saying Eric B. + Rakim were intellegent, well respected true Hip-Hop and that JJ+FP was fluffy, pointless, pop garbage? I've never had a huge amount for Jay-Z so i could care less, but i think he needs 2 think b4 he speaks, becuz reguardless of what his point is, it's not clear. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
E - Style-Greesy - E Posted July 8, 2008 Report Share Posted July 8, 2008 He didn't compare them talent wise....He didn't say Soulja Boy is on the same level. He's basically saying that Hip Hop has always had different things, and variety. It never said JJFP wasn't good, just that they are different from Rakim, and both existed at and around the same time. At least that's how I interpreted it. I don't see this as anything to get upset over. I agree here! I don't think Jay meant it in a bad way... :thumbsup: Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
KevTastic Posted July 8, 2008 Report Share Posted July 8, 2008 Yeh he isn't being offensive to JJFP at all here. If anything he mentioned JJFP as to the kings of their craft as was Rakim to his. Definatley not a diss in here at all. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fresh_from_sofia Posted July 8, 2008 Report Share Posted July 8, 2008 yeah i dont think Jay-Z can be that dumb to say JJFP level equalls to s.b. phah just is fun or something like that ...... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
VIsqo Posted July 8, 2008 Report Share Posted July 8, 2008 He didnt say it in a bad way Bob. No wonder u still an Eagles fan.. (taking every oportunity to bring that up. lol) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Luigie Posted July 8, 2008 Report Share Posted July 8, 2008 I dont care what Jay thinks :P Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bob Posted July 8, 2008 Author Report Share Posted July 8, 2008 People, if you are to allow this analogy to hold, you allow soulja boy to sit in the same 'space' in 2008 that FP held in the early 90's. I don't like the analogy...especially with "Superman that ho" and the very incoherent lyrics from Soulja Boy. When did FP go that route...or even close? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Luigie Posted July 8, 2008 Report Share Posted July 8, 2008 People, if you are to allow this analogy to hold, you allow soulja boy to sit in the same 'space' in 2008 that FP held in the early 90's. I don't like the analogy...especially with "Superman that ho" and the very incoherent lyrics from Soulja Boy. When did FP go that route...or even close? I think he means that JJFP where more for kids like Soulja is right now..i hope he meant that...if not..then f*ck Jay :) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
E - Style-Greesy - E Posted July 8, 2008 Report Share Posted July 8, 2008 (edited) People, if you are to allow this analogy to hold, you allow soulja boy to sit in the same 'space' in 2008 that FP held in the early 90's. I don't like the analogy...especially with "Superman that ho" and the very incoherent lyrics from Soulja Boy. When did FP go that route...or even close? I think he means that JJFP where more for kids like Soulja is right now..i hope he meant that...if not..then f*ck Jay :) Yeah, I think he meant something like that! Maybe he just meant the type - the funny beats and stuff. But JJFP were never that bad and strange with the lyrics like SouljaBoy. SouljaBoy is only sayin' the same thing over and over again like "superman, superman hooooo, souljaboy yeeaahhhh" and whatever he says... JJFP have some nice lyrics where they're talkin' about the truth only in a lil' funny way for everybody to listen - also kids! :thumbsup: Edited July 8, 2008 by E - Style-Greesy - E Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Vipa Posted July 8, 2008 Report Share Posted July 8, 2008 (edited) He's not saying Soulja Boy is Fresh Prince 2008. Just that JJFP and Rakim have different sounds. He said nothing about good or bad. He didn't rank anybody... JJFP sounded one way, Rakim sounded another. They both were releasing music at the same time...But Both were still respected. Today, Soulja Boy sounds different from Jay Z. That variety still exists. Different sounds are still alive in Hip Hop. There is this, and then there is that. I don't agree with the part that you HAVE to respect or like Soulja Boy's music, but I get his point. He should have made it clearer, though. Edited July 8, 2008 by Vipa Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
E - Style-Greesy - E Posted July 8, 2008 Report Share Posted July 8, 2008 He's not saying Soulja Boy is Fresh Prince 2008. Just that JJFP and Rakim have different sounds. He said nothing about good or bad. He didn't rank anybody... JJFP sounded one way, Rakim sounded another. They both were releasing music at the same time...But Both were still respected. Today, Soulja Boy sounds different from Jay Z. That variety still exists. Different sounds are still alive in Hip Hop. There is this, and then there is that. I don't agree with the part that you HAVE to respect or like Soulja Boy's music, but I get his point. He should have made it clearer, though. Yes, somethin' like that. I think that's what Jay wanted to say or what he actually meant. Nice explanation! :thumbsup: Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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