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  1. what's funny is every analyst keeps saying that if the Eagles didn't screw themselves, they'd be the pick in the NFC cause they are hot right now and on all cylinders....and they point to a Super 5 who's healthy and throwing well...who would QB a team that with a backup almost beat the Pats...oh well, next year we won't shoot ourselves in the foot.

    By the way, the Giants should not at all play their starters. Their coach has a job to prep his team to win meaningful games. This game means absolutely nothing to the Giants and could only hurt them. And I'm saying this as someone who loathes the Giants.

    Uh, and Colts or Jags will say goodbye to the Pats Super Bowl trip. And the conversation will ensue as to the reality the Pats wore themselves out.

  2. Geez, Bob, this reply took too long. How can you expect anyone to know what things like F&L mean? That was forever ago. I'm not going to do another point-by-point argument because a lot of what you're saying is just you're opinion and an endless argument is just exhausting. I just wanna say: I don't find the production sounds the same at all. I never said Talib runs out of breath. I will say that I don't believe Lupe does either. I think his flow is on point. Lupe isn't making a million political songs so I don't know what you're talking about. And I'm too indifferent to the poetry intro to argue for it one way or the other.

    God Blessa!

    F&L---food and liquor? would make sense considering we are talking about the artist who has an album of that name.

    His whole album is the definition of talking about all the worlds problems...top to bottom with only a few songs not addressing a topic politically motivated.

    and yes, it took too long cause I didn't touch the boards until today. Mainly because I saw the AOL thing about Will and Hitler. I was enjoying my Christmas!!! and everything leading up to it. I hope everyone else was too.

  3. Q-Tip asked him to do it.

    I thought I'd start with this one....Q-Tip denied this, as he said it was VH1 who set up ALL the performers. So VH1 asked him, Q-Tip wasn't the one making the decisions.

    I read your reply this morning but I had to get going so now is my first chance to reply. I've had the time to think about what you said while listening to the CD in my car. Me being the music master that I am have come up with my 6 counter-points to prove why you are wrong and I, the Great Chris, am right:

    1. Flow: Completely disagree with you.

    2. I'll give you this, Food & Liquor's production was very organic. Everything fit together really well. The Cool has great production on though as well and I think it doesn't make much sense hating on it. Go Go Gadget Flow sounds nothing like Paris, Tokyo. Hip-Hop Saved My Life sound nothing like Go Baby. Hi-Definition sounds nothing like Hello/Goodbye.

    3. You're making an odd point. An odd point that I again disagree with. I'm listening to him right now and if the guy didn't pause when he does then he'd run out breath and out of words.

    4. Introduction. So do you hate all Slam Poetry then?

    5. I don't think Lupe is trying to be a political emcee. Why is it unacceptable talking about many different big topics? I've had my fill of bad rappers talking about the same stupid topic ALL the time. How many different topics does Will Smith tackle in Tell Me Why?

    6. Fame. "FACT IS" you're really just saying that's his goal. Fact is you don't know his master plan. His first album wasn't called "Get Rich or Die Trying", it was called "Food & Liquor".

    I don't think he's nearly as complicated as you're making him out to be.

    God Blessa!

    (I shortened alot of it to not make people scroll, but I read the whole thing)

    1. Sometimes he could be replaced with T.I...other times, q-tip, other times Kweli, common, Mos, Method Man. It's just not unique. I'm not going to say Kanye cause I think he takes more off of Lupe than Lupe off of him, but I still think Lupe hasn't created his own, individual style.

    2. The production uses the same, limited arrangement of instruments. Sure, the tempo, rhythm, melodies are different, but it's the same 5 instruments. That gets repetitive if it isn't organic. Organic music to me can be done with limited instruments and if untouched and raw, can be fine. It's when you use audio engineering and butcher the initial sound and create something new, and use that same setup the whole album through. Regarding F&L, it felt enough of a different arrangement of instruments to make F&L worth a listen.

    3. Talib NEVER sounds out of breathe on it. He flows that way. It works for him. Lupe rushes to the end of the breakpoints and then holds; it's extremely forced, maybe not on F&L as much, but definitely on this latest album.

    4. Poetry on an album should be that of the artist. It's not his words and they seem to reach to be prophetic. And they aren't; they are forgettable.

    5. Will did that with one song and did it well. Individual songs of Lupe's may be tolerable for it, but when you make of litany of what's wrong with the world today for an album, you are just doing that, striving, in a forced way, to make yourself standout as this uber-political emcee.

    6. I respect those who, regardless of profession, do it out of the sheer 1.) enjoyment AND 2.) competitive urge to be the best. Lupe either 1.) is completely complacent and not "in it to win it" OR 2.) Convinced he's acheived the status of one of the best, and that is extremely premature, and immature.

    Either one gets no respect from me, regardless of his work so far. It's the manner in which you approach your work.

    Now I saw the one comment about Styles P being more enjoyable. I enjoy that album yes, but it doesn't really hit me as something special. Lupe's feels too forced and too broad.

  4. Your ears are broken.

    God Blessa!

    Well, considering my taste in music is second to none :stickpoke: , I'll try to explain myself:

    1.) His flow does not stand out. I mean, every rapper has something distinct in his flow. You hear a KRS track, you know it's a KRS track and if anyone else bit it, you'd know just because of the swagger/flow in the way the rhymes are written. And that's with ANY rapper, regardless of quality: you know who wrote it by the way the material flows. Lupe's rhymes, while extremely clever, feel like any number of rappers could speak it and you wouldn't know the difference. He doesn't stand out from the pack in his flow. Instead it feels like he follows the curve with a little bit of everyone in his rhymes.

    2.) Production is repetitive. The first album was notable in the diversity of production, while this album feels like Linkin Park was behind every song. Very inorganic music with too much of that signature altered drum and that signature altered snare and the signature altered clap...it's all signature in the sense so many synth bands overuse it, and now Lupe jumps into that mix.

    3.) His breathe points in the music feel forced. This is a minor problem, but Kanye too has the same problem. It feels like a physical barrier they have in the way they rap that is very noticable. They break abnormally at correct intervals. It's as if they want to rhyme into the middle of a verse and take a breathe, yet they don't because they know the correct intervals, so they end up taking forced breathes early.

    4.) The introduction. It really feels like Lupe gets too high and mighty with these poems. I don't like them and it really just makes me not interested.

    5.) He attacks too many themes at once. Guns in the hands of children? Good conversation topic. Oh, now obesity in America? Where's the transition? Why the forced run around the world of topics. It feels like his effort is spread thin by trying to be this uber-conscious rapper, when he could specialize on a few topics and be hailed as an awesome political MC.

    6.) This is an offshoot of #5 but I feel, especially with him saying he will retire after the third album, that he's trying to attain a lofty status and in doing so squeezing in so many different themes into one album to build his catalog. The fact is, you don't become legendary that way. You become notable in the time period you performed, but it's how you consistently create that causes people to categorize you in the higher ranks of whatever genre or niche you're going for.

    I just think he tries to do too much in too little and ends up turning me, the listener, away.

    Maybe I'm the only one, and if so, that's fine.

  5. I don't like the practices of Scientology that interfere with other religions. I don't like the bully approach to their public perception. But they are still allow to believe what they want to believe.

    I hope Will doesn't leave Christianity. I just think it's very hypocritical for me or anyone to blast one set of beliefs when mine are illogical too (when it comes to scientific basis).

  6. Ok, I know a 10 just makes me look like a stan....but hear me out, half of this is due to the circumstances around this movie:

    Penn State's downtown theater ISN'T CARRYING the movie. SO I had to go (with some friends of mine) and take a bus out to the movie theater out some ways. We decided to a 4:30pm showing because of our dances we all have to go to (end of year formalities) and THE THEATER IS PACKED. AT 4:30, COMPLETELY OUT OF THE WAY, AWAY FROM the University!!!

    And it's been 1 hour and 30 minutes and my heart is still in my throat. I hate horror/suspense, but this movie just messed with me soo much. I've always wondered what isolation would be like, considering my grandpa detailed to me some of the tactics he was put under when a Prisoner of War in Germany in WW2...I always wanted to see how easy I am to break...

    anyway, the movie should have a warning that anyone with pre-existing heart conditions should not see it, because it was a roller coaster! The casualties along the way made this movie not a "Will Smith" movie, but a serious attempt at cinematic horror/suspense.

    The desperation his character experiences and displays just hits your deepest emotions and really gets you to believe you are him, trapped, isolated. His mental breakdown is perfectly done, more believable than even Tom Hanks in Cast Away...I would have cracked soo much earlier than Tom did in that movie and it almost felt like he was disassociated with the average person. Will Smith, on the other hand, really relates to an average dude who is really unable to handle an unbelievable, insurmountable task. His character just rips at your security and exposes you to this completely vulnerable state.

    I am still calming down from the movie.

  7. I think Mayweather just outclassed Hatton...he was tactical and was just waiting for his opportunity..Hatton had heart but just not enough to see him through!! That knockout was sweet tho!! First the left hook from Mayweather then the corner post!!! :lol:

    the thing is, it seems like he had no confidence to do that in may against de la hoya. he was coasting until this match. i really do think Hatton bending over in disrespect lit a fire in floyd

  8. And you haven't met rabid sports fans until you've met a die-hard, long-suffering Cubs fan.

    Well I meet the most rabid and hands-down passionate fans every week back in philly...

    you actually have ownership that cares, that's why our pain is unimaginable.

    85 for the bears is alot better than never for the eagles....i mean we have THE DRAUGHT since 80 nothing...at ....all. nothing in baseball, basketball, football, hockey....except the minor league hockey team. yay.

    Oh man, Ja rule and Ashanti. wow. hahahhaha.

  9. Oh and Bob, I think sports fans in Chicago are just as passionate as you Philly fans. I have great respect for Philly and all their teams.

    I mean, you're up there, but the heartache we've felt and the loyalty still takes us above the rest. you've enjoyed your bulls and hawks from time to time..and we've never really gotten anything since the 70's. cubs do have a similarity to the phils though, we have mutual pain.

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