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The strike allowed for some unbelievable late night shows though.
Anyone see Colbert vs Stewart vs Conan fight last week??????? Three shows, they all appeared together fighting.
IT was awesome!
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Anonymous better be careful because DNS attacks can be punishable. Scientologists have also had some strong lawyers do their bidding recently.
An extension of Anonymous has come onto my school's campus promoting an event where they will attack Scientology in like a forum setting.
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I have a hard time believing he is talented, mainly because every song on his "We The Best" album was not produced by him.
So he didn't rap or produce HIS album.
And the whole mixtape thing still means nothing.
Kay Slay does beats. Khaled didn't.
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hilarious
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Nas, Common, or Talib were my votes for best album.
Anway, southside got some recognition!
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Happy Valentines day!
I think I'm going to rename it bachelor's day for myself.
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Oh wow, it's been a good two weeks. Anyway, we have a fundamental difference in views. It's obvious that the real political landscape involves heavy ties between the Federal reserve and the executive branch. Theoretically they shouldn't and Congress has been trying to audit the whole thing, but it never gets through. Political machines allow for much influence in the reserve's decisions. As much as I can't stand Ron Paul and everything he proposes, he has said something that anyone will agree on, from him, to me, to Jim Cramer: the reserve should be separated from the executive branch, but it isn't and something should be done. The executive branch would have been the first to do an executive order for a freeze on interest rates, or many other things that are now being proposed. Clinton didn't do it when he saw the bubble bursting. That's not saying Bush has been perfect, but Clinton has alot to do with the 99 burst. Both George Bush and Hillary Clinton are the type of characters people blame their ingrown fingernails on. It's overly done and without much premise. Sorry for being so late on the response but this discussion has pretty much run its course.
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So ok, time lag exists, I'm with ya. The time to get congress to agree to a policy. The time for the policy to affect the economy. Etc... But the time scale is 1-3 years and doesn't even fill the entire first term of a president, let alone the 12 years of Reagan/Bush 1, the 8 years of Clinton, or the now 7 years of Bush 2. By the above logic, right now we're feeling the results of the Bush administrations time and the boon in 98 was a result of the Clinton administrations time.
Props on the homework. I believe I had the 13th as well, as I sold my book after last year. The thing is, the 2001 burst was a direct effect of the Clinton implementation of policy. Bush then gave Greenspan the go ahead to do emergency moves. Greenspan put the housing net in place, and it failed. I already mentioned that. So yes, as I mentioned, Clinton was responsible for what hit our market so hard in 2001. He did hurt the economy because the economic boon was on false pretenses. Values of stocks weren't right and the era of good feelings, in economic sense, buffered this idea of good produces good. Clinton's moves when the stocks started to roll back, were also hurting, as he only tried to put a bandage on a gaping wound.
My initial point was Clinton harmed our economy severely. And he did. The success of the early 1990's came from the Reagan/Bush administrative policies. Then, Clinton's administration fostered more and more faith in the IT sector without hesitation. This created a false sense of prosperity that eventually toppled over, within the jurisdiction, and time action lag parameters that Clinton controlled.
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I don't really see how this is special and/or good.. sounds like just another 08/15 jay-z song.. I'm sorry :sinking:
Jay's flow is on point but the beat makes this track mediocre at best. If this is a Timbaland beat then Tim needs to go back to the drawing board. He's come up with way better beats then this. Jay, just a word of advice - GET KANYE TO DO YOUR BEATS.
This is the only type of beat Jay would let Timbo do. Jay kept off of Timbo tracks since timberland went wacko and repetitive. Timbo's best was before 2004. And if anything, it's promising to hear Timbo go back to the drawing board.
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Could you provide a reference for it?
Miller, Roger LeRoy. Economics Today. 14. New York City: Addision Wesley, 2007.
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but how much responsibility goes to the government and how much to the market.. I dont think it was clintons fault people invested in all these dot com businesses which were shaky at best in the late 90s..
Clinton embraced the dot-com bubble by allowing the fed rates to be high even when the burst was becoming obvious. Basically he let the well dry before anyone did anything. Instead of trying to cut rates initially, they sat back, as they felt it was too good to fall apart. No one did their homework on the economy in that administration.
Again, I don't mean to sound like I know all, because I certainly don't, but I haven't heard one thing otherwise from economists that points to a current economy being in any way an immediate reflection of the actions taken.
And unemployment went down I believe to new lows even during this subprime fiasco for quite some time. Obviously now things are drying up all over but I just like to look at the numbers and not just go off of people who are naturally inclined politically to believe a certain thought. I'm not saying Bush is the best president, because he's certainly not, but he isn't the devil and people naturally accept him as the goat regardless of the facts behind it.
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I don't think you can really credit or blame Clinton for the dot com bubble. It seems as though several times in the US's history, new technologies have emerged that created a nearly identical expansion and collapse. For example, the railroad expansions and industrial revolution in the 1800's and then mass production and the automobile expansion of the early 1900's. You see a pattern where a technology is introduce that can "change everything". You see an initial boost to production, efficiencies, etc... based on the new technology. People see this boost and want to cash in on it, wildly investing and trying create new uses for the technology. Since it's new, people don't know what is a good idea and what's not, so a lot of these end up failing. Enough fail, you get a tipping point, and people run like mad from the new technology. And finally, based on earlier success and failures, people figure out how to properly use the new technology, what it's limits are, etc, and it correctly gets incorporated into the economy.
The last recession in 2001, wasn't declared until mid-2003. You could probably look it up on an economist wiki page or something, it's a common fact that there is a big gap between implemented national policy and it's effects. Time action lag is a legitimate economic concept taught at the basic macro levels.
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This idea that clinton killed the US economy is ludicrous
Schnazz absolutely nailed it right on the head. It's an agreed consensus by economists that it takes many years from inputting the policy to seeing results in the economy. Clinton led an era of good-feelings/rub-under-the-carpet write-ups and really set the stage for a recession.
Clinton did kill the economy. He really set us up for a topple-over effect. The market corrected itself when the re-valuing of companies not based on physical materials (i.e.-dot-com) showed a real lack in the true monetary possiblities of these companies. More specifically, a breakdown in their Information Systems units that took payment and translated them into the service the site offered. From that point, Greenspan had to do emergency action which was creating a housing-net to catch all the people screwed out of their money for investing in such dumps. That plan looked nice on paper but banks took the opportunity to use this lazy-loan policy to eventually lead us to this subprime problem that has been hitting the Dow like crazy.
Anyway, here's Schnazz's on-point perfect description again:
I've heard a lot of people claim the theory that the economy is delayed from the president. So Reagan/Bush's policies created Clinton's economy. Clinton's policies created W's economy, etc... A while back I looked at unemployment (and another factor, I forget which though) in relation to who was president, it was surprising in it's clarity. I think it went back to 60's or 70's, I'm not sure, but there was a very obvious trend. Unemployment showed stead massive growth when Reagan came in and was an upward trend through his presidency and Bush Sr's. Clinton's showed steady decrease through his entire term. Then with W's presidency it started growing again. A pretty simple relationship, but interesting none the less.Again, Clinton did kill the economy.
For example, it takes 2 years after a recession for it to be officially DECLARED as one by economists. It's called time-action lag and is a real effect that comes from the bureaucracy associated with implementing national policy. Now I don't claim to be a master of economics but I've studied it hard and every professor Ive had for Micro, Macro, Economic Geography, and International Econ have all alluded to this "theory" as more of a principle on which to base most understandings of Macro involvement at the Federal level.
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oh fun, i love this. clinton kills the economy, bush brings us to war. clinton supports killing innocent life, bush fights wars he doesn't have to.
let's not make this a political forum...
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I thought this thread was about the GOAT.
Sorry, Wilt the Stilt's number was 13!
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if it was any team other than the midgets (or for that matter, the cowgirls), I'd be gun-ho for an upset. But I can deal with a perfect cheater as the Super Bowl winner than the midgets bragging about upsetting the Pats.
Or they could just blow-up the Super Bowl this year.
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my vote for the playstation is for the wonderful ps2 and original playstation. if ps3 was reasonable, and i had an hdtv to spare, and they had good games, maybe i'd go next generation. until then, nope
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Wasn't Born to Reign a concept album? I think the term "Concept album" is getting popular now because Jay-Z used to describe his new "American Gangster" album.
I had never heard that B2R was that. And it didn't really follow a line of thought, it went everywhere. Concept albums are huge with indy/punk/rock bands and have been for some time. Coheed and Cambria are a favorite of my friends, and they have made 4 studio albums with a storyline of a civil war in space.
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WHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHATTTTTTT
I had no clue either. wow, how many other video gems does will have of which I was unware???????
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ha, my opinions are known on cage so i'm not upset on that one
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hey you guys!!check this out.
Will may be in the running for Steven Spielberg's next movie: The Trial of the Chicago 7
While of course nothing is Confirmed this would be a great movie. and honestly could be a much better choice than "Seven Pounds"
here take a look: http://www.comingsoon.net/news/movienews.php?id=40624
I know its is DEFINITELY NOT CONFIRMED, but it could be a really good story. :sipread:
I'm against Will in this movie. It's going to be a loaded cast and Will makes gems with a few co-stars holding their weight and not hogging the light. The actors who are big in these major collaboration movies (that is, every big actor is cast and the producers go over their heads in the budget for cast) get lost between each other, and play politic games to get a bigger spotlight.
I say he stays with the formula of finding an independent movie type and bringing it to blockbuster heights.
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I saw this one yesterday and think it's absolutely hilarious he curses every other word in the same sentences as becoming a minister and talking about his gospel album. it's absolutely not genuine if he goes and talks about killing on one cd and then is talking about turning the other cheek. i'm not impressed.
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if will goes on record from "no more music" to "a tour of classic stuff" to "a single"...he's setting us up for a return. i think at least once he gets in the studio, he's gonna wanna do more.
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The time travel idea is close to what I would see....a "kid" maturing to a man...not neccessarily to a superstar movie actor...but like a kid from west philly mad at his parents when they take him to the gallery and buy him wack stuff to the father who makes his kids have a curfew. i think it would be his style to do it, and within in it, different interludes...first with trey and his dad backtalking each other, then jaden making fun of his dad, and then willow singing a final song on the outro.
The UNDEFEATED!
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I just felt like letting this topic show up again under most recent posts.
It feels good to see it now. All football season it stung.
But hey, let's just have this topic refresh itself every few weeks.
To be as obnoxious as it was back when it was painful for all the non-pat's fans. :-)