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  11. Chuck D flips 'Otis'

    in Caught in the Middle

    Posted · Edited by Turntable

    Oh yeah Kanye said some stupid ish, but he is no way near Griff. Now I know PE eventualy kicked Griff out - but only when it stardet to hurt business. Before his comments (this one and other ones) went national, Chuck D gave intervieuws devending Griff and saying that the Group is behind everything Griff says. Now as soon as the news went national, they had a problem - the biggest one was the fact that a multimillion dollar record deal was about to fall through because of the controversy. That is when Chuck, under pressure by Bill Stephney and Hank Shocklee, decided to kick Griff out. Now, by the standarts of Hip Hop everyhwere - I believe we call that selling out. Meanwhile, they still kept it tight with Farrakhan, who was busy promoting and dispersing Henry Fords "The International Jew" - a ****ed upped book from which Griff got most of his Bull****. Talk about swag. If you dont believe me, read up on it. It's all true. I can recomend Jeff Changs "A History of the Hip Hop Generation" - he also wrote a lot about Public Enemy in that book (incl. bibliography, foot notes and interviews with Chuck, Bill Stephney and Hank and many others that had to do with this - just in case there is any doubt to what he writes).

    About Jay-Z: I agree with the fact that he hasn't been a big game changer like PE or Rakim and so on. But not every legend has to be. On the other hand, he did influence a lot of rappers that came out after him, so he did have a influence somehow. The list is endless realy. You can ask most of your favorite rappers and chances are Jay-Z is in their top 10. Next to that, during his career he always pushed new talent - and not only the ones who commercial appeal. I mean he is the one that signs and pushes J. Cole, a dude with a real flow and soul-sample beats, even though we are in a ringtone age (same goes for Kanye back in the day btw), he signed The Roots and Nas to Def Jam and so on. He has been in the game for a long time now and he managed to stay relevant and succesfull. He always managed to change his style and sound. And last, but not least, he made at least two, arguably three albums that are widely regarded as classics. I beleive that is enough. Oh and dude can spit.

  13. Chuck D flips 'Otis'

    in Caught in the Middle

    Posted · Edited by Turntable

    I just wanna bring something to your attention again:

    "If the Palestinians took up arms, went into Israel and killed all the Jews, it'd be alright" .-Professor Griff (Founding member of Public Enemy) in Melody Maker (May 28, 1988 Issue)

    This is one of the clearly insane things members of Public Enemy have said over the years.

    Now if you excuse me, I'll go back to listening Otis. Don't believe the Hype.

    P.S. Just in case ya'll wanna start something about me being disrespectfull: I've heard every PE album more than one time. I know they are Legends. But so is Hove.

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