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let people listen to what they want and listen to what you want, I'm done with this thread, peace
This is exactly what I have been saying the last few.. well actualy forever.
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good cause I didn't vote
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Something is going on in Hip Hop, it has been going on for a while now. A lot of new MC's are coming up through the Intertnet, a lot of them are very talented and they are very good in combining classic Hip Hop qualities with a certain pop appeal. They talk about things todays youth around the world can relate too. They are pretty much the first realy globalized Rappers. Right now Cole has proven to be the leader of this New School. He might not the the one that has the most skillz (I'd say Kendrick Lamar is), but he is still very talented and with this Album and the way it has been selling he has proven to be the one that is one step infront of the rest. Cole World is a very, very good Album and probably the best Album I heard this year. Cole is a great producer, he can easily switch flows and he has is very versatile in his subjects. This Album is dope. These guys are the truth. Period.
Listen to this song, very powerull stuff:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-HBP0O7QMr8
And for the charts, he can just as well make a Pop Song without releasing Ringtone Rap (Like A Star is a free Track btw, he finsihed it too late for the album):
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so we voting for ourselfes?
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While I somehow agree with what you ar saying, I find it still hard for me as a white person to to judge the black community for using a certain word. It's not realy my problem anyway. If you dont like certain words, dont use them. If you dont like people with a certain state of mind, dont hang out with them. Thats the only thing one can do. I do think it sucks if white people use it, especaly they use it as a replacement for something like "dude". I dont know about Latinos and Hipanics though - overe here they dont use the word, but I was told it is normal for them to use it in the US. Now I also think that while a lot of "uneducated" people use it, there are also quite a few smart, very educated people who use the word and other "bad words" for that matter. I also would like a more conscious world, but I am not seing it happen anytime soon. Next too that, I think we alle have diffrent opinions on how exactly that world would look like. Censoring is bad, especaly based on religious believes that some people (or most people) might not share. I do believe that the freedom of speech does not mean the freedom to talk ****, but I'd rather have people talking **** than people censoring other people.
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You are a Big L Fan arent you.. Now I love LODPAD, but not often did I hear so many crimes being commited on one record. You are also a Tupac Fan, who may not have "praised" Cocaine, but who did went to jail for Sexual Abuse. Now I'd rather have my kids hang out with somebody who talks about Coacaine instead of somebody who abuses women. I'd also rather listen to somebody who talks about Crack than to somebody who get's arrested every five minutes for doing violent ish while under influence of crack (like DMX), no matter how much he talks about God on his records. I understand your opinion, but I dont agree. Lupe says a lot of weird **** in his raps and recently in Talk Shows, which ist just as stupid as "prasing" cocaine. Just because something sounds smart, it doesn't mean it is. When Joe is saying thank God for that white he isn't talking about the drug itself in a prasing way, he is talking about the fact that it helped him make money. He got out of that ish and stardet rapping, but he raps about what he knew growing up. Nothing wrong with that. The Clipse raps about what they saw growing up, maybe not what they did, but what they saw people they were close too doing. Ghetto CNN realy. Most rappers do just that, because most of them since they were 16 years old haven't done ish but rapping about what they are seeing anway.
By the way, crack didn't always drive people into poverty, a lof of them were driven into crack by poverty. They ended up in this extreme poverty partly because the Republicans decided to kill off the welfare state. I dont think you would be complaining if Joe would write tracks saying Thank God For Reaganomics instead of Thank God For That White, which might just be the same thing (not for everyone, but for a quite a few) growing up in the Bronx. I am saying selling crack is good or saying poverty is an excuse for using and selling it instead of trying to make something out your life. But things are the way they are and lyrics like that, no matter by who, are often a refelction of that.
Just look at these (self refelcting) lyrics coming from THE SAME Album as That White:
[Fat Joe]
Uh! I don't give a ****, no! I don't give a ****, no!
Sex, money, murder, we call this the hit 'em up flow
Barely fifteen, copped my first triple bean
Tryna get wit Fat Cat
and Pappy to do my thing
I'm just a kid, with envisions
and visions of gettin C.R.E.A.M.
Ronald Reagan told me
"Yo, Joey just do ya thing"
Now I'm lookin back, man
I ain't have no conscience
Slappin niggaz silly
till them niggaz fell unconscious
Speakin of my conscience
Now it be ****in with me
So-called activist
try to dis me publicly
And they don't even know where my heart at, heart at
And I don't even know where to start at, start at
[KRS-One]
But this your conscience speakin
No time for cryin and weepin
You tryin to climb, you reachin
up to ya prime, you eatin'
You ripped a rhyme last weekend
You cleared a mill, no cheatin'
Who give some **** what they speakin'?
Just keep movin, leadin!
You from the place of them heathens
Cop needs to see them
for no reason,
Young hustlers in the street bleedin
Moms grievin
Joe, you came up from all that
**** that, you taught us how to survive, CRACK! -
In the spirit of the hour, I'm listening to Fat Joe - Thank God For That White
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Well.. it's a song dude.. Joe tells storys.. And he used to be a dealer. This is a old dicussion realy and I am too tired for this. If the raps are good and the beat is good - I'm fine with it. Lupe is rapping about conspiracys all the time, also a big problem in the hip hop community, cause it keeps people from finding a place in the real world instead of hiding behind lies. I take it your not keen of the clipse, huh?
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Actualy Tupac was a pretty messed up dude. I noticed how people on this board say they want consitancy from a rapper, yet they are Fans of Rappers like Tupac and DMX. I'm pretty sure 50 knows how to behave himself better than a lot of other guys do.
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now lets vote
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http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7qAmmFfkyP4
you can talk slick all the way down to the welfare
ask the IRS bitch I’m paying for your healthcare
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cBNM8AQm2PY
man I love this album -
I‘m reppin‘ real Hip Hop, but you dont understand
Cause Hip Hop‘s a team sport and you aint got friends
Now Homie I know your mind is in the right place
I know that, I‘m just not so sure about your face
I see dark clouds in your future, I‘m like a weather man
Your vocabulary is as bad as, like, whatever man
I take your girl shopping in a West Berlin Mall
You wear your moma‘s clothes - one size fits all
Young, fly and handsome, good things in front of me
You got stuck in stagnation like the US Economy
Your disstracks a retarded and your punchlines disabled
I write punchlines in my sleep so my diss-is-fatal
Your verses are wack boy, I‘m laughing while typing
Next time you gotta battle, better outsource your writing
Cause I go crazy on you, I go ape**** on you
Dress you up, fix your hair, make a lady of you
Then sit back and relax while you fix me a sandwich
R.I.P. Dawg, you‘ve just been killed in your own language
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So.. who wants to die next?
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haha yeah that is dope man, sway - that's epic
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You'r doing a good job, I dont like the beat tho
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It's been twelve years since the 90's, put your pagers away
No, leave your Hammer pants on, you'll scare the ladys away
Homes, your a joke with two legs - runnin gag
I‘m stunning Mofo and your just stunningly wack
I keep breaking limits, they call me spacebound
You remain behind schedule - Greyhound
Name drop all you want, man you can‘t impress me
While you sang Culture Club, I was bumping Mobb Deep
I spit Chanel Nr. 5, your rhymes just smell rotten
I‘m a Legend in the makin‘, you‘r a tale long forgotten
I‘m earth, wind & fire, just soo daamn funky
You‘r the end of the road - personal bankruptcy
My rhymes cut your skin like the knive of a psycho
I‘m the GE of Hip Hop and you‘r just Raps Tyco
Now take Will‘s advice and take time to chill
Cause I‘m like a chronic disease - eternally ill
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So how are we gonna do this? We gonna go a second round? Should I front this time or do you wanna go first again? -
Haha that is so D-List, I wonder if she met Kathy Griffin
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Yeah Jazz Radio Stations are pretty much the only music radio stations I still listen too
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yeah and she fine too.... haha
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thats right, 16 bars battle :D you can go first, lets make a thread en everything like in the old days haha
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how about you and me have a text battle? :D
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Yeah but that is the problem.. People wont recognise it, and he wont have Buzz if he doesn't dramaticly increase his output. It is not 92 anymore where you can make a Demo and ish.. If you want to shyne you are gonna have to make your very own buzz
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I think she improved her singing once again, I however do not like the sound of the song.
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Rappers on the radio? There are still Rappers on the radio? The last Rap Song I heard on the Radio was a song by Eminem I think. On the other hand, I pretty much only listen to News/Business Radio Stations.. The less music the better.. God most pop music and indie rock sucks hard
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That is his problem.. He does not have enough output, not even close.. Even tho he has been around for a while, he is in direct competition to people like Skyzoo and Reks and even newer guys like J. Cole. But they put out a lot of stuff, they are always somewhere on Producer Albums, they tour clubs and skateparks around the world and everything.. He will never stand out this way, I think he missed his chance
J. Cole - Cole World: The Sideline Story...
in Caught in the Middle
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Listen to the verses on this song and you'll see just what a great songwriter this dude is.