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All the wackest s*** right now are the ones that're sellin', the best single in hip-hop this year has been Nas' "Just A Moment" but it didn't even hit the top 40, Will ain't gonna sell 5 million unless he has a video with rims, girls in thongs, champange bottles, and throwback jerseys, all these chart rappers are lost, f the charts, this album's doing very well if u ask me, Will's gettin' a lot of props for it, would you rather have him put out some corny s*** that sells 10 million and have every hip-hop head diss him or do you want him to put out music that matters that doesn't sell much? The album is far from a failure if u ask me, even if it falls off the charts now. :poke:
You sir, seriously need a clue. You're downgrading the audience, because not every video out has throwback jerseys, champagne, etc. A Good video is a good video, period - stop tryin to be a hip hop purist, and enjoy music no matter who puts it out.
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I had this same discussion with Hero, for those of you that think Switch is doing well, wake up. Switch is the weakest track on the album, and is not being well accepted by the general buying audiences - if any of you knew the music industry as well as I do, then you'd know that the album is in a decline because of the lack of a better single out. If "Tell Me Why" or "Party Starter"(Which is circiling like 4 mixtapes right now), was released, then we'd back on track - As important as international sales are, Will's selling audience is stationed in the US, and here in the US? Switch has run its course, and if a new single is not dropped soon - be it the Switch (Remix) with ELephant Man, Party Starter or Tell Me Why, and I mean soon, not June, because by that time, the album will be forgotten and sales will decline like nothin.
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i'd love rakim on a remix to l&f but on one condition: the remix be produced by a reputable dj, premier maybe or jeff. i'm not feeling the beat for l&f.
i think the concept and message of the song would have been great with a good hip hop beat with a dj. and is it me or are the beats in this album very weak? great message and lyricism unlike will's previous albums, but very half baked beats. will don't need to go for the commercial producers around but they are very good hip hop producers around like salaam remi, l.e.s, premier etc. if jeff did the whoe album, it would have been great! will's wealthy enough to command great beats.
for me 4 songs stand out in good beats:
- switch and the remix
- tell me why
- could u luv me
I actually agree with you on this, I think it's because Born To Reign spoiled me when it came to the beats on Will's albums. That album was possibly his best album musically.
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Probably not biting, just paying homage! Can you honestly see will stealing lyrics! He doesn't need to!
Well biting is big word...but he's using some lyrics and the same idea!
He's not biting, he's paying respects to the line - it's done all the time, and normally it's with well known lines by other artists, because they know that fans are goin to point it out.
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I think LL Cool J is classic in every way. His sound, his style, his lyrics, his personality, his growth. I wouldn't say he can end anybody's career...but lets be real. None of the artists that went at him with lyrics are on his level at this point. And i like most of the artists he feuded with on the mic. MC Hammer, Ice-T, Kool Moe Dee, Canibus. I like ALL of them (except for Canibus) and none of their careers are doing much compared 2 LL's. I can't put my fingure on what he's got...but look at the facts. He's highly respected, he's 11 albums deep, he's been around for 20 years, he's got the music awards, the movies, the clothingline, etc.
U don't gotta love LL, but none of his success would be possible without the skillz that back them all up.
See, this is what I like to see - when cats lay down their point with statements to back it up rather than "So and so is a legend, that's why he can do such and such". That's like givin them immunity because they've been here so long. I have the level of respect I need to have for anyone of the old school, but it's not goin to take away what I've gotten from the new school either - because when it comes to music, everyone gets a chance to be listened to.
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We all know that Twista is the fastest rapper. But I honestly feel Will can match Twista's speed of rapping because in certain segments of the songs like "Somethin Like Dis" and "Scream", Will just rips it like mad crazy. He raps so fast that it makes me wonder if he could probably be one of the fastest rappers in the world. :werd:
Anyways, Will should bring out more tracks where he raps superfast like back then.
Simple question, No. There is NO rapper in mainstream right now that can match Twista's speed, I mean, c'mon be real, the dude was in Guiness for GOd's sake.
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I break it down like this, Willenium and Born to Reign are my favorites, Willenium for its lyrics, but Born to Reign for its production. The production on Born to Reign is untouchable
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And I'm sorry to anyone that said Jay can't be compared to LL, LL had his time, that time has passed. LL's last two albums, are PRIME EXAMPLE of someone doing WHAT sells blatantly. The album before that, G.O.A.T also shows that LL is reaching hard as hell to prove that he still has his 'street cred', even though its hard to even take him serious with it.
LL is at peace with himself now, he don't have to battle other rappers now if he don't want to, but if anyone comes after him, he could still end their careers. Did you actually listen to his last 2 albums? Even his worst albums "14 Shots To The Dome" and "10" are above average, he never came out with a garbage album. He still has a lot of skill left, "Feel The Beat" has more punchlines than Jay-Z' whole catalog in my opinion and how the hell could Jay-Z beat LL when he can't even beat Nas? :
Uh yes yes y'all feel the beat y'all
Freak freak y'all
You don't stop
Uh yes yes y'all feel the beat y'all
Freak freak y'all
You don't stop
[VERSE 1]
When Def Jam signed me
They hit the lottery
It wasn't free but don't call it a robbery
They underestimated me quite possibly
It's like that when you a godfather B
I'm the greatest of all time
You heard that before
But now when I say it
It means so much more
Cause It's so true
No hype man, No crew
No reason for ghost writers
Every year I get tighter
Mothers and daughters agree I'm on fire
Check ya T-Mobile it's all over the wire
Cross ya legs baby hide ya desire
You think I'm hot
You preaching to the choir
Smiling and giggling
Thirsting like Gilligan
More flavor than cinnamon
They rush with adrenaline
I make 'em nervous
I do it on purpose
I come back hotter
Every time I resurface
Drop to ya knees baby
Praise the king
Now ask Russell Simmons
Who built the west wing
I ain't gotta be cocky
I do the damn thing
Paint ya girl with strawberry frosting
Internationally known and respected
You talk slick I'm too large to be affected
You crank call my cells disconnected
You keep slipping but my games perfected
[HOOK]
Uh yes yes y'all feel the beat y'all
Freak freak y'all
You don't stop
Uh yes yes y'all feel the beat y'all
Freak freak y'all
You don't stop
Uh yes yes y'all feel the beat y'all
Freak freak y'all
You don't stop
Uh yes yes y'all feel the beat y'all
Freak freak y'all
You don't stop
[VERSE 2]
I'm a star for real my aura is crazy
Hollywood love me in the streets I'm gravy
Born with a gift to inspire the hood
You wanna out do me and I wish you would
I'm the master separate from all these cats
I'm laughin in '86 I balled like that
Honey catching feeling from sittin in Maybachs
Cause her project hall is smelling like Ajax
That's understandable but everybody relax
Hate when folk get money and don't know how to act
I'm a multi millionaire homey that's a fact
But it's not the ice that makes ya wife react
Been had an entourage and platinum cards
Been getting swedish massage in Boca Raton
What you think all them years I ain't pop no Don
Spend a night in Trump Towers with a blue eyed blonde
I been did it all my Benzes was kitted
When you talk like a baller you tickle me with it
But yeah there's money out there come on lets get it
But I'm a get it in such a way you never forget it
Let's go twenty platinum albums in a row
Sixty thousand fans a three hour show
I could care less who drop and blow
My name is LL baby that's beyond the flow
[HOOK]
Uh yes yes y'all feel the beat y'all
Freak freak y'all
You don't stop
Uh yes yes y'all feel the beat y'all
Freak freak y'all
You don't stop
Uh yes yes y'all feel the beat y'all
Freak freak y'all
You don't stop
Uh yes yes y'all feel the beat y'all
Freak freak y'all
You don't stop
[VERSE 3]
These rap cats get upset with me
When security clear out the V.I.P
If honey wanna lounge we gone see ID
Ain't no negotiating you gone pay my fee
I'm the boss I call the shots to keep it hot
I don't have competition I'm bigger than the slot
While you waste advances on grey market rocks
I cop municipal bonds and Wal Mart stocks
A family man but hard as a rock
And I die for my kids so stay off my block
They might be impressed with you but I'm not
After all these years I still walk with a bop
Still keep the ink hot
Still scheme like a fox
Still ready to battle
You don't want your career stopped
Industry shocked cause I mapped out a plot
And ran around humble with my joint on cock
[HOOK]
Uh yes yes y'all feel the beat y'all
Freak freak y'all
You don't stop
Uh yes yes y'all feel the beat y'all
Freak freak y'all
You don't stop
Uh yes yes y'all feel the beat y'all
Freak freak y'all
You don't stop
Uh yes yes y'all feel the beat y'all
Freak freak y'all
You don't stop
After hearing all the crap on the radio, how could honestly say LL's washed up? :hilarious: I wasn't gonna say anymore, but you gotta respect LL for what's he's done, it's not like Jay-Z' gonna still put out a great album 10 years from now, LL probably still will be putting out more great albums as long as he's still living, stop hating on the legends.
I'm not gon discredit your opinion, but homie, if you seriously think that LL Cool J of all people can END ANYONE'S CAREER at this point in time, you are SADLY Mistaken, and blinded. Secondly, it's funny how cats continue to say that Nas beat Jay-Z, with his "Yo Mamma Joke" Ether, when Jay-Z spoke nothing on all three tracks he had directed to Nas, 'Takeover' and 'Blueprint 2' he talks about Nas trying to be commercial like him, he talks about Nas going from Black Girl Lost to Oochie Wally, he talks about using Nas's voice for a track and Nas not making a DIME off of it because of his jacked up publishing. Listen to the tracks, and you'll see there's nothing but truth, where as the best Nas could come up with is "I Rock hoes, ya'll rock fellas". Are you serious? And if you want to get into those type of disses, then go listen to "Super Ugly".
You can try to discredit Jay all you want, talking about punchlines - Jay was never a punchline rapper, though he can spit them with the best of em, but its not his style. So LL having more punchlines is pretty much irrelevant at this point. All I'm sayin is, if you're going to attack Jay for doin rap to sell, then look at LL for the SAME exact reasons with the last 3 albums he put out, that featured 3/4s Timbaland production, 3/4s Neptune Production or even 3/4s Trackmaster production - all 3 with little to no substance like his previous work.
Plus, as much as you may not want to believe it, evem with a hit single like "Head Sprung" off his recent album, or even 'Hush', LL's popularity is still not where he once was.
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had to go with Could U Love Me..track is way too much of a played out topic for me - i always skip it everytime i listen to the album
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And I'm sorry to anyone that said Jay can't be compared to LL, LL had his time, that time has passed. LL's last two albums, are PRIME EXAMPLE of someone doing WHAT sells blatantly. The album before that, G.O.A.T also shows that LL is reaching hard as hell to prove that he still has his 'street cred', even though its hard to even take him serious with it.
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Basically every album Rakim has dropped is a classic, "Reasonable Doubt" is Jay-Z only legitamate classic, Will needs to work with legends like himself not inconsistant mcs 'cause he's a legend and Jay-Z ain't on their level, even though he doesn't suck as bad as most rappers now, he's retrired now anyway. Mos Def only released 2 albums in 6 years. even though they're both hot, he has to put more work in. I wouldn't mind if Jay-Z or Mos Def did a song with Will but I'm anticipating a collabo with LL and Rakim more than those 2.
btw, these lines could be used to diss Jay-Z:
"Truck with rims, check
Champange Bottles, check
Throwback jerseys, check
Lots of models, damn that's the list for 90% of your videos and songs
Am I wrong?"
That's actually online towards what Nas said in "Ether"
"Y'all deal with emotions like bitches
What's sad is I love you 'cause you're my brother
You traded your soul for riches"
Um...1, Jay is never seen with a truck with rims in his video, Jay doesn't wear throwbacks, hasn't worn a Throwback since Blueprint, if you seen a Jay video, he barely has women in it, unless it caters to the song (Dirt Off My Shoulder, and Excuse Me Miss, etc.)
Like I said, too many hate on Jay for no reason whatsoever, and as far as the classic comment? Wrong again, Jay has Reasonable Doubt, Blueprint and Black Album, his albums (outside of The Dynasty) have all been above average.
Like I said, the blatant hate for Jay, especially when, like I said before, especially when he's been true to himself as an emcee, and has not changed since the day his first album dropped (Except for his subject matter, but you cant speak on the same thing forever, you change, you grow up)
Ya'll seriously need to stop being such hip hop purist, and like an artist for what they give you, ESPECIALLY if that artist is being himself and not just doing what sells.
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how can u people say Jay-Z? he's part of what's wrong with the game right now, altho nothing compared 2 other people out there
How is Jay-Z part of what's wrong with the game right now? Jay has done but stayed true to who he is, and how he came up. He has one of the best flows in the game right now, hell, his lyrics are up to par - Jay has never disrespected Hip Hop in no form or fashion, and is now President of Def Jam. It's either blatant hate or just a blindless to what you listen to.
In the words of Jay himself, "Do you listen to music, or do you just skim through it"
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I didn't say Will did a mistake but I hate Elephant Man! And the others u've mentioned are pretty ok! For example Snoop - he is very cool, I mean ok, normally he makes gangsta rap but he himself is very cool, his character and all is well and now, the music he makes right now at the moment is way betta than his gangsta music! U know, right now he makes R&B style, he raps for sure but he also does something like singing and the beats are just very smooth and slow, just like R&B u know? I mean he should always do that, what he does right now is the best style he has but how I said even if he didn't make it like now, if he did or continue doing gangsta rap again, I still would like him, I wouldn't say I hate him now or so... Know I'm sayin'? Hope y'all understand... :sonny:
You hate Ele', fine - but to go on to say you like Snoop and his character (A man who's done gangsta rap his whole life, even over those rnb styled beats that you like so much - just more weaker than before), but you know nothing of Ele's character. Alot of dancehall/reggae artist don't like gays because they feel it's sinful and wrong (Although, that doesnt justify the blatant hate). The way the express their displeasure is through music, does that mean they walk around everyday and shout "I hate gays"? Nope. Trust me, I've met Ele, they don't.
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i can hardly understand a word he says..
That's the thing. I think a lot of the sinister undertones in dancehall music fly over most peoples heads outside Jamaica cause it's so hard to understand! :sad6:
Or maybe it was made for Jamaicans, and those of the Caribbean...and never really was expected to become that huge in America and other places that dont understand it?
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I think that it is a little odd, but I really don't know if will even did the track with elephant man because there are no extra lyrics on the album, like on the RnB remix. probally the producer put it on without will's knowledge or something
without will's knowledge...you aren't that gullible are you?
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Considering the positive message Will brings, I'm surprised he worked with this guy who advocates the murdering of gay people in his music. Here are some of his charming lyrics:
Elephant Man - A Nuh Fi Wi FaultBattyman fi dead!
Please mark we word
Gimme tha tec-nine
Shoot dem like bird
Shoot them [queers] like birds
Queers must be killed!
Please mark my words
Give me the Tec-9 (semi-automatic assault pistol)
Shoot them like birds
Elephant Man - We Nuh Like Gay
Battyman fi dead! Tek dem by surprise
Get a shot inna yu head, inna mi big gun collide.
Gimme me Tec-9 General B, wid de chrome wah a shine
Shot out ah bugger-man
Queers must be killed! Take them by surprise
I am going to shoot you in the head, you are going to meet up with my big gun
Give me the Tec-9 General B, the one with the chrome that shines
shoot all queer men
Elephant Man - Log On
(Log on is a type of dance using the right foot in a stepping motion as if to squash a cockroach - the lyrics boast about stamping on gay men and setting them on fire)
Log on and step pon chi chi man
Dance wi a dance and a bun out a freaky man.
Step pon him like a old cloth
A dance wi a dance and a crush out a bingi man
Do di walk, mek mi see the light and di torch dem fast
Log on and step on a queer man
Join our dance and let’s burn out the queer man
Step on him like an old cloth
Join our dance and let’s crush queer men
Do the walk, quickly let me see the lighter and torch (makeshift aerosol flame thrower weapon)
I like to think Will didn't know about some of his content. I don't know his personal views on gay people, but I'm sure he'd find these lyrics kind of disgusting.
What do you think? Please don't take this as an attack on Will. I was just surprised he worked with him, but like I said, he may not know much about him and his record label could've just linked him up with him cause he's considered 'cool' in some circles.
The issue is well known here in the UK after he had his MOBO nomination removed for this reason.
Considering Will has worked with Cam'Ron, Lil Kim, Eve, Big Pun, Petey Pablo, Ludacris, do you really think it matters he worked with Ele? This is the music business, you can't fault a man's views on he feels, no matter how wrong it was, but that shouldnt stop you from working with an artist. It's not like you're becoming the best of friends, just getting together to make great music.
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produced by the freshmen?
Will's production team from Overbrook if I'm correct.
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All the more reason why Party Starter needs to drop NOW.
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1. Clinton Sparks & DJ S1 – Legends Intro
2. Ghostwridah – Freestyle
3. Will Smith - Party Starter (prod. by The Freshmen)
4. Fat Joe – Party Arty
5. Epik ft. Game – Get On Down
6. Jae Hood – Freestyle
7. Clipse – Where You Been (prod. by Clinton Sparks)
8. Beanie Segil – One Shot Deal (prod. by Just Blaze)
9. Freeway of the ROC speaks…
10. Freeway ft. Mully Man – Buck 'Em (prod. by Clinton Sparks)
11. 112 – My Mistakes (prod. by Trackboyz)
12. Jae Millz – Who (prod. by Swizz Beatz)
13. Fat Joe ft. Nelly – Get It Poppin' (prod. by Scott Storch)
14. Clinton Sparks speaks…
15. Black Rob ft. P. Diddy – Knock 'Em Out (prod. by Clinton Sparks)
16. Benzino – Her
17. Beanie Segil ft. Snoop Dogg & Dr. Dre – Don't Stop (S1 Remix)
18. Ghostwridah – So Hood
19. Kanye West – Improvise
20. Fat Joe ft. Mashonda – Listen Baby (prod. by Swizz Beatz)
21. Clinton Sparks interlude…
22. Morgan Smith speaks…
23. Morgan Smith – Blow Your Whistle
24. Capone of CNN speaks…
25. CNN – Stand Da F*ck Up (prod. by Clinton Sparks)
26. Busta Rhymes ft. Flipmode Squad – Get Down (prod. by Clinton Sparks)
27. Dramills – Freestyle
28. Lil John speaks…
29. Vice Raw ft. Angelous – NC to NYC
30. DJ EFN Letting You Know…
31. Ghostwridah – I'm Focused
32. Clinton Sparks – Outro
33. DJ S1 – 88.1 fm Public Service Announcement
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You want to be FP. No no no you say you just want to be "yourself" and stuff like that, but hey, admit; you do want to be like JJ and FP. Well I was thinking about it and... f you want to change then change. I was thinking of that we could start some kind of JJFP religion/lifestyle based on what JJFP has said in song texts, interviews and comebine it with the physical stuff we've seen in especially FPoBA, like "walking like FP".
I was thinking that I could come up with subjects from A to Z (or "ö" if you live in Sweden :P) and then we fill it out with information we know its true. Before I start with subject number one, what do you think of this idea? :)
I know this cat ain't say start a religion of sorts based on JJFP...see, that's just taking fanatic too a wholllllllllle new level
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Alright let me start by saying as you all know (Im in the the minority here) that Born To Reign is my fav Will solo album. I just got L&F yesterday and I've been listening to it a lot. I like it quite a lot and yeah he is definitly spittin' some sh*t on the new album. Here is my only problem with it, I'm a huge fan of sharp crisp snare drums and there is very little sharp snares on the new album. Besides that small thing I think the album is great, not his best, but great. Light years better than BWS but not quite as good as Willennium or B2R but it is some of the best rap work I've heard in years. I've been talking to a lot of people lately who are big rap fans and they think Will is great. Maybe not as good as, for example, Ice Cube's early sh*t as far as roughness but think that Will is a great rapper and is not to be denied his place in rap history. L&F will find an audience and if it doesn't then we can all rest assured that we listen to some of the best music in the world. It makes me f*cking sick to hear some of the crap that people consider 'great' music. This is hands down the hungriest Will has been in years as far as rap is concerned and it really shows that getting ignored pisses him off a lot. Is this album a classic? Will it go down in history? Probably not. But it does prove a point, and that point is that Will has been doing this for years and it's about time that people listen to what he has to say, they don't have to like it but they better listen because he is making a statement. That statement is: I've been doing this rap sh*t for years and until you have done it as long as me you aint't got sh*t to say, until then take a step back and reevaluate the rap game because it is slippin!"
I actually agree with you on this, I felt musically Born to Reign was the best, the production that album was very nice - where as the production on Lost & Found sounded too much alike in terms of the drums that were used.
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yeah and on other songs like "I Wish I made That" and "Lost & Found"...i dont mind it because he's stressing his point.
*shakes head* Look, if he curses, he curses, don't defend it by saying he's stressing the point, ESPECIALLY on those two tracks - on tell Me Why, fine, but those two are just casual. Just accept the fact that he actually cursed, and didnt really have a reason to.
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The Freshmen = Omar and his crew?
edit: hmm maybe not
I must say im kind of unhappy letting some nonames produce almost the whole album. Okay if Jeff produces almost a whole album, but otherwise they should spread it out a little...
What difference does it make who produces the album as long as its hot?
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Well maybe it doesn't fit 'cause it's the only JJFP track on the album, maybe FP should just leave Jazzy Jeff off the album right? :eek4:
Just because it's the only JJFP (Which has yet to be concluded, considering none of you have the actual CD), doesn't mean that it's not weak. I love the lyrics, especially when they were done over "How We Do", the Spiderman theme is a turn off.
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in Jazzy Jeff & Fresh Prince
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Exactly.