KBlakk05

First of all, what you described is not gangsta rap, it's commercial music in it's entirety. It's also a reality - it's what they relate to since being int he position they're in. Stop making excuses for Will, why would you think that's it's just a PR attempt? Because you feel that is is? Because you don't want to believe that he feels otherwise and likes something that YOU didn't think he would? Please. Dude's a grown man, if he can go on record with Snoop Dogg or say that Dr. Dre is a producer that he'd love to work with, support a movie starring T.I., or that he listens to 5.0 Cent what makes you think that he's just saying that for good PR? If Will is as genuine as you'd love for him to be, then you need to accept the he was genuine in what he said. Plus, look at Wills videos, that checklist also applies to him as well ("Party Starter" being a perfect example), he's also rapped about those same topics himself so he's not a saint in that right at all.

Actually, I do agree that the difference between Petey's first and 2nd album is a big one. His first album (atleast to me) is a very well put together debut, and one of the better ones of that year that came out. He lost a lot of his energy I feel on his 2nd album (Along with Timbo, who half-assed his effort on the album), and that's why I only listen to the 2nd half of the album where he shows me WHY I became a fan in the first place. So far I've heard 3 songs off his new album ("Fire", "Give It Up" and "Show Me What You Got"), all produced by Lil' Jon - and not his cookie cutter beats either, and he seems to be back on the right track to a high energy album.

Hate to break it to you, but this one's actually happening. They decided on it after they dropped 'Bump This' with G-Unit.

50 is famous for name dropping many "gangsters" from Queens and the crimes they did in his early tracks, so a lot of people accuse him of being a snitch.Many people say that thats the reason he was shot in the first place. If you're going to tell a story, please tell it right. Basically, the reason behind 50's snitch theory is because of a ONE song called "Ghetto Qu'ran", which is basically a tribute song to the old heads of his neighboorhood. Basically cats that he looked up to. At one point 50 was questioned about his involvement with Supreme, and he didn't say anything but "I don't know anything, listen to my music." Long story short, they tried using that song in court as evidence against Supreme.

I aree with alot of what you said, except for the part about Petey Pablo. Stop listening to singles, and listen to his albums - Petey can get as deep as Will can, don't believe me listen to "He Spoke To Me", "I Swear", "Gonna be Country", et cetera. Not everyone can be positive image like Will, but there are still those who provide that image with their own struggle.

Yup yup, and I owe that to you man, appreciate the hook up fo'real. And I want to make sure that the project is perfect, so I got my boys pullin out stops on the beats. Also, they're gonna be sliding Kel some production for his mixtape, so hopefully he chooses em.

Talked to Kel about it, and once I get the production back from the camp, we're gonna try working on somethin together. Whoo! I'm crazy excited about this one.

Dawg, I'm hopin to GOD that you weren't serious about the crying part...either that, or I hope you're some kind of metrosexual.

http://www.myspace.com/blakkvi -- let the people say 'Its about time!'

Boom! Shake The Room!

Hate to school you a bit homie, but last time I remembered, from the start Will was like everyone else in terms of his lyrics before his Grams found his notebook and schooled him otherwise. I take it you don't live in American then...

I'm tired of the nitpicking about Born To Reign, but Hierolla knows all about that. Anyway, Tra-Knox had the potential to become a top group in this over saturated R&B Game with the right production and push, but like duke said it's now a what if than anything else.

you are way too harsh on your judgement of Born 2 Reign..I love that album, hell, the production on it, as well as a lot of the songs, are better constructed than the ones on Lost & Found, and I could break it down even more so if you want.

In DMX's new single "We In Here", he says a line in the last verse that sounds like "That potna sh!t was kinda hot [Not!], How you gon' jack Will Smith for a beat?! That's like trying to jack me from the streets, it aint happenin'! Anyone knows who he's refering to? I know about the Potnas track from Willenium [assuming thats what he said], but I dont recall anyone in recent memory using a similar beat.

Iono, I always liked I Can't Stop - although the hook has him stretching a bit, the track overall isn't bad.

Hey to break it to you folks; but Game's not talking about Will Smith, it's just a coincidence.

Blahzay is a slang term as well, meaning they just talking. "Blah, blah, blah". So when he says "So Blahzay with they lies", it means, they're just talking without actual reason for doing so.

I'm not going to make a decision, because it would be stupid to say "Hey, who made the better song to their child?". I take both songs, for what they are, and that's a message to each respective artists offspring.

Actually, not really lol, pure coincidence lmfao

Songs that I relate to by Jay-Z, that have NOTHING to do with Jewelry, on top of that, a few you may even relate to yourself. Plus, you make the comment that "he can't say all of his music everyone can relate to', you can't really the same for any artist. "Somehow, Someway" "This Can't Be Life" "Song Cry" "Blueprint (Momma Loves Me)" "Hard Knock Life" "Soon You'll Understand" "Girls, Girls, Girls" "December 4th" "Allure"

Exactly, what I'm saying - just because Jay's reality doesn't share YOUR reality, doesnt make it HIS reality. Everyone has a different reality, and jay talks about his, the street stuff that he talks about he doesn't even talk as if he's still doing it, he talks about it in past tense, it's becaus it's what he did. To discredit it because it doesn't relate to you, is retarded, because then you'd have to do the same for the current way Will is. When he mentions getting 20 Mill a movie, can you relate to that? No, when he talks about Black Radio not playing HIS music, can you relate to that? No. When he talks about the money he has, enough to 'kiss the sky', can you relate to that? No. It's the same vein.

Will Smith & Jay-Z Invest In Beauty Company Date: 5/18/2005 11:30 am Music and Hollywood elite have lined up to invest millions in the Brooklyn-based beauty products line, Carol’s Daughter according to CNN/Money. Will Smith, Jada Pinkett-Smith and Jay-Z are amongst a few of the big-named investors who have invested a total of $10 million dollars in the new business endeavor and have plans to take the company nationwide. Additional investors include record executive and organizer Steve Stout, Interscope Records chief Jimmy Lovine, Andrew Farkas and Tommy Mottola and his wife, Latin recording artist Thalia. Pinkett-Smith, wife of Will Smith, will serve as the face of the product through a nationwide advertising campaign.

Was that neccessary? :poke: i agree with u Braces. i tnink Born 2 Reign was the most creative album. sometimes taking a risk and tryin 2 be creative with different styles doesn't always work so well, but there's no denying that it was his most creative album even tho it's my least favorite solo album I'd still bump "Born To Reign" more than any Jay-Z album except "Reasonable Doubt", I could say half of "Born To Reign" album is hotter than anything I've heard from Jay-Z in recent years, btw his Volume 3 album is garbage, anything you could say that Jay-Z has done original I bet I could say another rapper's done it before, even though he's been arguably the best mc out on the commercial scene at the moment, until "Lost and Found" has dropped! :poke: Ayo, to be honest with you fam, you really urk me with your opinions sometimes, because as much as you hate Jay-Z for certain things, you give Will the right to be the same way. You're saying that nothing Jay does is original, but even on Lost & Found, there are tracks that have been done, and I love both rappers to death. the Blueprint is a way better album than Born to Reign, and you can ask Hero1 about my love for that album. Like I said, it just seems at times that you're extremely bias towards Jay, and have NO real reason to be so. Like I said, Imma keep my mouth shut and just walk away before this argument starts again.

I'm one of the bigger Will fans on here, but c'mon, you can't be serious. Y'know what though, Imma keep my mouth shut, because it always seems to get out of control in these 'Jay-Z Vs. Will Smith' threads, that really don't need to be happening, CONSIDERING they're BOTH TWO DIFFERENT ARTIST. For the record, Will is just as materialistic, with lines like "Ya'll better leave me alone, before I buy your radio station and send you home", or even "I could stand on my wallet and kiss the sky", or even "Crib sick, you can see the booth from the kitchen", every rapper does it, just because it's materialistic, doesnt make it real - if it's real to them, Which it is, then I have no beef with it, because they talking about how THEY live. So Give it a rest people.

Just because he has jewelry talk doesn't mean it's not reality - that's HIS reality.