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  1. Jazzy Julie

    Will Smith

    That reminds me. I need to make an account with the lil Wayne forum to tell them all his music sucks.
    4 points
  2. I took a minute to process the incident and the night in general before posting on here, it hit home for personal reasons, that I’ll explain, and it also took me a while to try and understand what developed and why. After deliberation, obviously violence is never the answer. It’s inexcusable, but, it’s also understandable based on what has been revealed to us in recent months and years. I saw a broken man, at his breaking point, that’s lived pretty much flawlessly over nearly four decades in the public eye. After reading WILL, it opened my eyes to that lack of acceptance Will has always had, and his strive to ‘put right’ what he got wrong as a kid. Namely, his inaction when his father would abuse his mother, both physically and mentally. I believe this played a part in the spur of the moment decision to act when he felt his wife was attacked. Another thing that came to mind is his obsession to not fail, think back to when Sheree divorced Will, and he refused because ‘I don’t get divorced’. He was willing to stay in a marriage he wasn’t happy in because of his commitment to the decision he made. Fast forward to the ‘Entanglement’ and we have a carbon copy of the fight to save his marriage, that got turned into memes and internet trends, namely of Will crying when emotional speaking of his wife’s affair with someone he’d brought into his home to help. I also believe Will becomes so engrossed in roles that he wants to embody what Richard Williams stands for in terms of defence towards his wife and children, and with them all being women, it’s overlapped into Wills personal life. Not just with Jada and his kids, but with the cast and crew of the movie, also. Now, you’re Will Smith, you’ve made the decision to stand by your wife and forgive her sleeping with another man, almost having the acceptance because she was facing her own demons. I do have my opinion on Jada and what damage she may be causing to Will, but in this instance, you have to take it at face value that he chose to forgive and move on, so we should to. You get to a point when Jada opens up about her autoimmune disease that results in Alopecia, and in her darkest moments dealing with her hair loss, she had suicidal thoughts and intentions, but managed to pluck up the courage to eventually embrace the situation and use it as fuel to encourage other sufferers of the disease. It’s important to remember that it goes much further than just simple vanity. As a husband myself, and being married to a woman that suffers with mental health, namely Agoraphobia, I’ve witnessed the lows that nobody else sees, I’ve witnessed the brave face that everybody else thinks is natural, and I’ve also seen the small innocuous comments, that the majority would brush off, bring her entire world crashing down faster than what seems imaginable. But it happens. Now, put yourself in the shoes of Will, sweeping the awards season, a favourite to achieve his first Oscar, an award he’s been openly chasing for two decades since his first nomination. You’re on top of the world, embracing the moment. This is the best your career could ever be, the pinnacle. Someone then makes a joke in poor taste, about the women you love, on what’s supposed to be the biggest night of your career, and you glance over to your wife and she isn’t impressed. I believe Will unlocked some inner demons he’d buried writing WILL, I believe he’s reeling from being humiliated about the ‘Entanglement’, I believe he’s bitten his tongue on many occasion when the names of his wife and children got dragged through the dirt in front of millions. In that moment, I believe Will thought, it doesn’t matter what I do in my career, I’ll always be that scared little boy that didn’t stop his Mother from getting beat. And he said, no more. As a side note, it’s important to understand what triggers are when it comes to mental health, and what you’re husband may know will be damaging to you, even though it seemed an innocent off the cuff comment. I’m sure Chris Rock was unaware, and Will could have handled in a more calm and well matured manner than resorting to violence, especially as it’s completely overshadowed what was a richly deserved and overdue Oscar victory for what was a phenomenal performance. I congratulate Will on his Oscar win, and I really hope if he is struggling with his life and is overwhelmed by what’s being asked of him, or what he feels is being asked of him, that he seeks the help to recover and get back to being himself. It was difficult to watch someone I’ve admired for so long hit rock bottom on the same night he reached his highest point, but it was also a stark reminder that we expect superhuman actions out of people who are just as human as the people they entertain. Sorry it dragged on LOL
    4 points
  3. Honestly, as much as i hate the situation, the memes are pretty funny. But yeah, the media need to take it easy now, they are interviewing every celebrity about it to try and get another headline. I'm disappointed in some celebrity takes on it. Amy schumer said it was really upsetting to see Will slap Chris Rock, then ive seen another story saying one of her jokes about the Alec Baldwin shooting accident wasn't allowed. Why does she think a joke about someone getting killed can be ok? Anyway, people in glass houses shouldn't throw stones. Will made a mistake, we all make mistakes, let it go.
    3 points
  4. I agree with a lot of opinions here. I don't think Will is doing good mentally. It was like a bi-polar moment for him. He's seen laughing at the joke to then slapping Chris and shouting at him. Next he gets the win and then cries and says something that he's a "vessel of love" and "love makes you do crazy things". Dude - you just slapped the host of the show because Jada wasn't having it. Listen, I get defending your wife but that was such an instant response to Jada. It was uncalled for. The joke wasn't even that bad. It's comedy. So now if we go to comedy shows and don't like a joke we can slap the comedian? It's bizarre. I get that it's an isolated incident but I think it was trigger by some deep wounds and toxicity in his life. He needs some help and healing. I haven't read the book but it seems like their are some deep rooted issues. We're obviously all people on the outside watching but part of me thinks their marriage has run it's course. He was humiliated on the RTT with Jada where she justified her actions in front of the world to make a private matter turn into public display of marriage therapy in which she profited off of it. She had an affair with their son's friend. That's crazy. So because the traditional definition of marriage doesn't apply to their "open marriage" makes what she did okay? And now they're going to have another episode that they're going to profit from from all the views. I could do without the pomp and circumstance. Honestly, I'm just turned off by Will and have been for a few years now. Maybe at his core he's still the guy we all grew up loving from JJFP, FPOBA to the early 2000s but he doesn't have the same appeal to me. He's a business and a brand and the one thing I want from him - he doesn't sell anymore - which is music. I'm not into Will Smith the character, the box office star and hollywood elite. He's just not relatable. I feel the same way about Dwayne "The Rock" Johnson too. I dont care and never cared about: his movies his marriage and how open it is his kids his snapchat his instagram his book (well maybe some parts of it) bel-air reboot hollywood life his politics his youtube channel his motivation advice his workout routine selling me products (bel-air merch, JUST water...etc) ...etc Anything with music - count me in.
    3 points
  5. JumpinJack AJ

    New Music

    Yeah, I want new music to be a tightly contained project. I'm not saying his family isn't musically talented. Obviously they are, but I have no desire to hear them on a new album.
    2 points
  6. Remix I made when I was back in High School. Sampled James Brown
    2 points
  7. Lerkot

    New Music

    Indeed he should make some new music but I prefer if he leaves his weird family out of it and go play with Jeff instead.
    2 points
  8. I think the reason for this is that Will's actions are directly related to the Oscars. They want to save face. The dealings of those other people, while vile and long term, aren't directly related to the Oscars. No one is associating their behavior with the Oscars like they are Will's. That's just my guess at reasoning.
    2 points
  9. He's definitely got some great content, it would also be a great way for him to vent. Everyone is talking about him right now (MIB was playing in my local supermarket) so i think people would be more interested in what he has to say right now. Its the whole, no publicity is bad publicity thing. It would be great for him to spend time with Jeff, JL and Charlie etc. From the book, those guys seem to of always been such a positive impact on his life. He was like his old self when he did that zoom thing with them in lockdown.
    2 points
  10. Jim, I get everything you are saying and I think a lot of people feel the same way. I think it is worth getting the audiobook of Will though - the first 10 chapters are all about the formation and success of JJFP and a lot of stuff we never knew about - I think as a music fan you would really enjoy that section of the book at least. Behind the scenes of summertime - the making of And in this corner etc, the return with Men In Black.
    2 points
  11. maybe jjfp should make a song called "mr. nice guy 2022" and have jada sing the hook haha
    2 points
  12. Dave Nicoll

    Will's Book

    Heading to London soon to make sure we get there in plenty of time for the show. Will is already in London and Jeff has confirmed he is on his way. Should be a great show! I'll get some pictures and upload them on here :-)
    2 points
  13. Rest in Peace to Super Producer/Composer Carl "Chucky"Thompson, I used to play keys when I was in middle school and I think that it was his keys and lush arrangements that set him apart from the rest of "The Hitmen" on the scene in the late 90s. It was not only lush, it was live instrumentation, intricate background vocals, and literally this man helped to create "MY LIFE" (Mary J. Blige), timeless hits for The Notorious B.I.G. , introduced amazing new artists like: NONCHALANT, FRANKIE, EMILY KING and others. His music moved me then, and made me wanna take songwriting seriously. I'll miss this brother and praying peace for his remaining family.
    2 points
  14. Will spotted in India https://www.filmibeat.com/hollywood/news/2022/will-smith-spotted-at-mumbai-airport-makes-his-first-public-appearance-since-oscars-2022-incident-333494.html
    1 point
  15. Dj Jazzy Jeff defends his friend Will Smith https://www.blackenterprise.com/dj-jazzy-jeff-defends-his-friend-will-smith-it-was-a-lapse-of-judgement/?fbclid=IwAR3Gc06ewW8TbXb1wD6efit2Y6MTPCg99ZQHW7lzzYGre-ovwQI6StOaZSg
    1 point
  16. Although I think 10 years is such a long time, I feel a bit relieved by this news. I really didn’t want Will to lose his Oscar. Imagine how devastating that would be to lose an award you worked your whole life to get for a moment of madness. The Oscar’s had to punish him some way to show that they think violence is wrong, so Will had something coming to him just so the academy can look good. Now that’s done it can become yesterdays news, Will can focus on himself and hopefully build his career back.
    1 point
  17. It's unlikely they'll take the Oscar away. Whoopi Goldberg is on the board, and within a couple days of the incident, she said they weren't going to.
    1 point
  18. I just read an article saying he has been admitted to a rehab center due to the stress of the whole situation. https://www.marca.com/en/lifestyle/celebrities/2022/04/06/624db4dbe2704e5ea68b458d.html
    1 point
  19. As crazy as Loretta was, in light of everything recently, Will would've been better off with her instead of Jada.
    1 point
  20. The event has been covered so much at this point that I think a lot of people are getting sick of it. I think the media will start to slowly let go until the Red Table Talk or some other related event involving Will or Chris occurs. If you scour YouTube, you'll find much more diverse opinions that place blame here and there. Jada is taking heat in a lot of it. That memes are still coming. Occasionally I feel guilty for finding some of them kind of funny. I was randomly looking at items on ebay and there's quite a few shirts with memes and pictures of the slap on it. I think that once we REALLY hear from Will and Chris, it will truly start to taper off with a sense of closure.
    1 point
  21. I hope Will understands that we're concerned
    1 point
  22. Netflix Backs Away From 'Fast & Loose' https://www.hollywoodreporter.com/movies/movie-news/will-smith-netflix-movie-1235123901-1235123901/
    1 point
  23. I think him resigning from the Academy is the right thing to do. It doesn’t really mean much to be part of it. It’s not that important to his career. I don’t think his career is over. It will take some time for people to forget about this. The video and the incident will probably keep popping up for the rest of his career. The only way for this entire issue to be over is to have a conversation with Chris Rock. It doesn’t have to be in front of cameras. Just talk privately and clear the air.
    1 point
  24. I'm still trying to process this whole thing. If a week ago someone would of said this has happened, i wouldn't believe it. I think my main concern is Wills mental health. He's a celebrity so none of us here truly know him. But most of us here have followed him for 20+ years, we've listened to his music which is his soul and read his book which he spoke so much truth. I feel like i know him well enough to know this isn't him. This is Kanye West type ****. Its especially not him to do this on the most public stage in the world. I want to know what lead him to react like that, is there something we don't know. I'm not saying theres any conspiracy here, it just has to be more than defending his wife from a joke. I didn't really know what it meant to be a part of the academy. Turns out its like Visqo said, he just can't vote etc. He can still technically win oscars, however i don't think he will win anymore (he may even have his current one removed). I don't think this is career ending, but i think its career damaging. The other guys that got removed from the academy where sex offenders, Will slapped someone. Theres a big difference there! Theres people on social media that are very loud to criticise but most people i know in real life love Will. I think the fact that hes so well loved and that this is his first major mistake in his 30 year career means he can recover from this. I'm sure its gonna take time. Most peoples take on this is to get a funny meme or a tiktok out of it. I don't think many people are truly offended by what he did, just shocked as its out of character. I don't want him to do the red table talk, that show has damaged his reputation already. He needs to stay quiet a bit, reflect on why he did this and slowly build his career back.
    1 point
  25. This was definitely the right thing to do. Being a part of the Academy doesn't mean much. One of my acquaintances is a member of the equivalent for the Grammy's. He's says it's good to be a part of it if you're in the industry, but overall it's not that important. This is the one thing Will could do in his power to show that he knows the wrong that he did. His words are perfect. He's found his center again, at least to a certain degree. I'm proud of him for the steps he's taking.
    1 point
  26. I dunno. With the way things have been I'm scared Will is gonna come out with a gangster rap album
    1 point
  27. I saw the news that the Academy wasn't honest about asking him to leave, or giving him mixed messages. I think it's important to get that straight. Let will pay the consequences for what he did. Not what he didn't do. The whole situation is bizarre, so I don't really blame anyone bystanders for how they handled it.
    1 point
  28. I think opinion is divided because people can't believe that Will Smith could do something like this. For decades he's been knowing as the fun, nice guy who's friendly with everyone. So I think that's the reason why people are trying to justify (Not that what was done can be justified) why Will did what he did.
    1 point
  29. Yeah, people have done far worse than this and still gone on to have successful careers. It’s a very divided opinion wise on the situation as it is.
    1 point
  30. Maybe I’m naive, but that looks to me like Jada didn’t think it was serious at first either.
    1 point
  31. Will smith - Yall know. That intro is still my hype track
    1 point
  32. it's a true tragedy that today marks the 35th anniversary of jjfp's rock the house and everyone is talking about the oscar fiasco
    1 point
  33. Neither as Mr. Nice Guy ''But aah, Calm down Wille You don't wanna drop the bomb now Wille Keep a nice flow for your mom down in Philly On the news you go if you blow and act silly''
    1 point
  34. I'd love him to return to music, but I think he needs to work on his mental health first.
    1 point
  35. Might be coming a longer video on the topic. We're accustomed to everything happening within five minutes these days... for no good reason. If it is like Puff Daddy or Piff Diddy - or whatever his name is - says, that they made up, then the vultures (us and the media) should just go take a chill pill because Will and Chris really dont owe us anything... Will/Jada were hurt by words, Chris by a slap, for us it was harmless.
    1 point
  36. "bob" here (haven't gone by that in a long, long time) - couldn't figure out my password from when I joined as a 17/18 year old, now as a 34 married father of one (with another on the way).... I will say I'm heartened by the statements above - I think anyone wouldn't be surprised if a fan forum found a way to justify Will's actions, but I see a lot of wisdom in Hero1 and AJ's comments. (What else would I expect!) I was just gutted by Will's actions. If he really wanted to make an impression on the right note, for the right reason, he would have left after that joke. It's easy for me to say "Oh, just let it go, and move on." His absence for an acceptance speech would have spoke louder than any sound of a smack or yelling obscenities from the crowd afterwards. He should have learned from his younger self when he didn't do the grammy's and won the first ever rap grammy. Violence, demonstrations of might, belief you can take things into your own hands - all are hallmarks of lesser men, not representations of true honor.
    1 point
  37. I I'm more with Def Cem on this. I will always be a JJFP fan but I really don't like justifying violence with love or protection. It just wasn't acceptable. I thought Chris Rock handled himself pretty unbelievably after the incident. You can hear my full thoughts on why I thought it happened on the podcast here:
    1 point
  38. I haven’t been online here in ages and just had to come and share my feelings. I am really shocked and disappointed of his behavior and think that this is unacceptable. He didn’t even apologize to Chris at his speech. As a long time JJFP fan I must say, that the Fresh Prince I used to like and watch and listen to is no more. Will totally lost his sense of responsibility as an artist.. what it means to be a role model. He shouldn’t have made his private life so public in the first place. All that red table talk and stuff totally screwed him up. The showbiz is not the place to elaborate and therapy your life. my respect for him is on a low point and honestly he is more and more becoming an example on how NOT to do things in life. What a shame. I won’t support him anymore and will stick with his old stuff. But nonetheless I hope he’ll get out of this mess…
    1 point
  39. Bit out of balance? Obviously. But having thought about this... if my (highly hypothetical..) wife has a medical condition she is sensitive about and some clown makes a joke about it in front of millions of people, it is sort of your duty as the husband to go slap that worn out comedian in the face. Was it clever? Not particularly... but entirely understandable. This slap was a better decision than his last dozen movies or so.
    1 point
  40. I'm down. Crazy busy right now so I hope I can find the time, but I'd love to talk about it.
    1 point
  41. Hey man - great to hear from you! I think the "Will" book is phenomenal - I wish more people came back to the forum because there is so much in the book to discuss. He really goes in deep on becoming a battle rapper and the making of the Jazzy Jeff & Fresh Prince albums. You probably misses some music he dropped on his Instagram & YouTube. Will from Home was on Snapchat - there is an interview with Jeff on that after he almost died from Covid. There's still heaps of things going on - just less people on here to talk about it unfortunately. Hopefully the book brings some people back!
    1 point
  42. Hero1

    Will's Book

    Awesome Dave! London is sold out! I'm currently watching the live stream in Philly!
    1 point
  43. YEP YEP REAL HIP HOP IS BACK
    1 point
  44. Telluride Awards Analysis: ‘King Richard’ Catapults Will Smith to Front of Best Actor Race, with Across-the-Board Recognition Possible Will Smith just stole the Telluride Film Festival. And he could bring Beyoncé to the Oscars ‘King Richard’ Review: Will Smith and Aunjanue Ellis Inspire as Venus and Serena Williams’ Eye-on-the-Prize Parents Telluride Review: Will Smith In ‘King Richard’
    1 point
  45. I'm going to try and do a new one with @JumpinJack AJ !!
    1 point
  46. Netflix Acquires ‘Fast & Loose’ https://deadline.com/2021/07/netflix-fast-loose-stxfilms-will-smith-david-leitch-1234800911/
    1 point
  47. JumpinJack AJ

    Will's Book

    Unless you're referring to something I'm not recalling, I don't really fault him for not putting his business out in the street. Some of the personal stuff that came out later wasn't really the public's business. I wouldn't consider him keeping some things private lying. I'm also hoping he focuses a lot on the early days and music, but I'm prepared for this to be aimed at the mainstream audience.
    1 point
  48. As an optimist, I always thought he was going to pull out of his health issues. In recent years, Biz has lived about an hour from me and frequently DJ's at a venue I like, but I never made it out on the nights he was spinning. I'm really regretting that. I did see him spin at the Will Smith & Friends event years ago. I also saw him at the recording for MTV's Back In Black, Men In Black special. The last time I saw him was when I saw TLC in 2015, in which New Kids On The Block brought him out in the middle of their set to perform. Biz Markie is one of a kind. He is Hip-Hop's class clown. Few emcees are as fun-loving as him. I think because he can be so silly, we don't recognize him for the song writer that he is, the producer he is, and how much music knowledge he has. There have been some great tributes over the last couple days and they shed more light on that side of him. There's a reason he was tight with JJ+FP. We lost a legend. It's a shame that it took this loss for him to get some light shed on his music, but let's hope it's recognized the way it deserves to be.
    1 point
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