DJ Jazzy Jeff Interview
DJ Jazzy Jeff - "Soulchild For
Life"
Words By: Marlon Regis
HHS: It was inevitable that sooner or later,
your "behind-the-scenes" role and usual position
would become more recognized with time - especially seeing
how much you're doing. Is it just that DJ personality which
makes you more comfortable just laying low?
JJ: "Ahmm…well, yeah, yeah..I…actually
it is, but that is really encompassing of my personality in
general. I love music. Even through all of the stuff that
I've done, I've never lost the fact that I love music - it's
music first. And the bad thing is especially nowadays, everything
kinda gets so caught up, that it's not about music. It's about
how much money can I make, how much points I'm ah gonna get,
what's my advance? I sit back and I look and I'm like, damn!
All of the cats that I talk to in the music industry, we don't
ever talk about the music! But at the end of the day, I'm
still back where it all started - we did parties and got $15
and went straight to McDonald's and ate, your money was gone,
but we did it because we loved it. That's where I am at the
end of the day…"
HHS: Right now, Philly has never been better
as far as the urban music scene is concerned. You and your
Touch of Jazz production team are in the thick of it, as J-Live
says, 'break it down' for us not hip to what has made and
makes Philly tick with all this culture.
JJ: "Not taking anything away from Philadelphia,
but I believe the talent pool in just that kind of situation
is in every major urban city in the world. I'm not just gonna
say it's in Philadelphia only, it's in Oakland, California,
it's just that spotlight isn't on Oakland right now. It seems
like when the spotlight started to shine on Philly, then all
it's gonna do is make you that much confident and make you
feel that much better about what you're doing, then you gonna
continue to do better stuff. Same thing, it was here in the
'70s, then it left and it went to Indianapolis, Atlanta, Detroit…so
it's just your time. I think what helped Philly out especially
was for the past ten years we've been having the jam sessions,
the poetry readings, the open mics, and we were doing that
for ourselves. As soon as it became on a national spotlight,
it was almost like well, wow, for ten years we've been practicing,
we kinda ready for what's going on now."
HHS: I think the average fan hears your name
and automatically thinks, Will "The Fresh Prince"
Smith and what some misguided hip-hoppers would consider 'corny'
or 'user-friendly' rap. Obviously somewhere along the line,
they got fooled. Musically, guide us to what you've always
been and continue to be about over these years.
JJ: "The beginning of Jazzy Jeff and
the Fresh Prince, it was kinda like if you turn back the clock
and listen to the first album that we made - we have "A
Touch of Jazz"? on it, which was pretty much one of the
first records to ever use Jazz samples mixed together with
Will rhyming. You have "The Magnificent Jazzy Jeff"
on it which was pretty much probably one of the very early
turntablist records. Then you have "Girls Ain't Nothin'
But Trouble" which was a huge hip hop hit, 'cause you
got Will telling the story basically to a beat. You got records
like "Jeff's Rocking" which was almost like an early
hardcore Will just spitting. Then comes the second record
(He's The DJ I'm The Rapper), which had the layout of the
same stuff. But you have "Parents Just Don't Understand."
And because "Parents Just Don't Understand" blew
up on the commercial side, you're automatically locked. People
were like, 'oh my God, you guys are from the suburbs!' For
a while you try to fight that stereotype but it got to a point.
I've always been into all types of music, Will has always
been a lyricist. You get to a point where you really can't
worry about the perceptions. A lot of stuff that I'm doing
now is really soulful, but when you sit and think about it
- the song that I did with J-Live, is kinda like a jazz record,
just like "A Touch of Jazz" was; then you got a
whole bunch of soulful stuff, but what was "Summertime"?
The whole thing about the music industry is once you do something
and you're deemed successful at doing it, they ain't trying
to have you try anything else. It stunts your growth as an
artist. That was one of the main reasons why I created A Touch
of Jazz (the production company), it was to give me that kind
of outlet. As an artist, you not gonna accept me doing soul
music? I got two areas of music - GOOD and BAD. That's it."
HHS: When you were approached to be a part
of this BEAT GENERATION series, along with the roster of beat
technicians like Pete Rock, Jay Dee, King Britt, Will.I.Am,
Marley Marl and others. How excited were you and your crew
pouring out the true sound with that sense of total freedom
from label-politics?
JJ: "Just the idea of somebody giving
you the creative freedom, and that's one of the reasons I
didn't go first or second or third in this series. When someone
gives you that kind of freedom, what da hell am I gonna do
with this kind of freedom when no one has ever given it to
me? It wasn't until Jay Dee kind of did his (Welcome 2 Detroit),
he set the tone for everybody like, 'ok I see where he's going…oh
man, he's going for some hardcore hip hop and he just goes
into this….damn!' It's not about doing a genre of music,
it's about letting you know what makes you up as a producer.
How fucked up is it that a little, tiny label out of London
gives you this type of freedom, and Sony don't? The hard thing
is, once you start doing records like that, you kind of ask
yourself how can I go back to doing anything else? As bad
as it is, we got that same creative freedom doing Jill Scott's
record, but now that Jill Scott has become successful, people
or the record company may not accept Jill saying, 'hey I wanna
do something completely different.'"
HHS: On this album, there are all different
types of vibes: mostly hip-hop, soul, a bit of house, a touch
of spoken word, etc. Is there a few cuts that stand out as
making you blush with pride when you listen back to this truly
'magnificent' album?
JJ: "Each song has such a different
story that means something to me. To have that creative freedom,
I can paint a picture of every song that we did. I did the
remake of "We live in Brooklyn" as an instrumental,
and something said you know what, I really want Jill on this,
and I don't want Jill to do the typical song, I want her to
write. I held that song 'til Jill came back from tour."
HHS: Philly, obviously holds a group of very
cutting-edge, proud hotsteppers in the music industry. With
an album like this, how is Jazzy Jeff looked upon? Are you
like a father figure amongst the artists and musicians out
there? Or, has some in Philly gotten too big to acknowledge
the ones before?
JJ: "I don't think I've ever really
stepped back and paid attention to how I'm perceived, because
I love what I do so much, I'm not trying to distance myself
from anybody. I mentor and tutor all of the guys that are
down with the Touch of Jazz, but I do that on a basis of I
may have a little bit more experience. I don't like that philosophy
of you gotta pay your dues. If I made a mistake, then let
me tell you the mistake I made, so you don't have to make
it. I don't wanna say, 'oh you gotta make the mistake in order
for you to learn.'"
HHS: So far for the year, this is one of
those albums that have a permanent place in my disc-changer.
Besides this Beat Generation release, are there any more hip-hop
projects you're working on or any new artists you plan on
launching? I'm constantly hearing about a duo from London
called Floetry?
JJ: "The Floetry album is done, it's
coming out through DreamWorks Records. Actually, they just
pushed that back 'til October. Pauly Yamz, we're finishing
up his record. I'm looking at this album (The Magnificent),
as a calling card to try to get people to do these Beat Generation-type
records. My whole thing is, I would love for all of the creative
people I know to have the ability to do a record like this.
If only you could just de-program everybody…I ain't
mad that you play Jay Z five times, my whole thing is why
don't you play Jay two times, and play J-Live two times as
well. Just give me some variety. You can't mean to tell me
that the extent of our music situation is the twenty-five
records that you play fifty times on the radio. If you play
twenty-five records and then I go in Tower Record Store, and
I see two million records there, so I'm like outta two million
only twenty-five are good??? C'mon maaaan…."
HHS: The cutting and scratching and turntable
wizardry you've done way back in the day. I see it's all here
on the album. Most might have forgotten, but way before this
new generation of turntablism, you were one of the first to
showcase this. Are you kind of over this phase in hip-hop,
or are you very much into it still, while still handling the
other production duties as well?
JJ: "I'm a DJ first and foremost. Everything
that I have in music, I owe to two turntables and a mixer,
and I'll never cast that to the side. I'm extremely active,
I do parties a hundred dates out of the year - anywhere from
South Africa to all over. I'm happy and very excited that
the whole turntablist movement is bigger than it's ever been."
HHS: You're an old school hip hop cat no
doubt, but definitely still trend-setting the shape of urban
music presently. Jeff, how has this been so possible while
many of your peers from way back have faded into nowhere?
JJ: "I think because I've never looked
at it like I got a grip on this, it's kinda like I've been
doing this professionally for nineteen years, and I'm still
learning just as much as I learned the first year. As long
as I have that attitude, a lot of young guys that I'm bringing
in that I'm teaching what to do and what not to do, I'm getting
lessons from them also. As long as I keep my brain to any
new kind of ideas, I probably could be doing this for the
rest of my life. I think if I pay too much attention to what
I've done, I'm not going to do anything new."
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