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[rawad_m]

So who do you think made the greatest contributions to music, who took it to another level? who do you think's volume of work eclipsed all others.

Explain the reasons behind your choice

[Big Willie]

J5 and MJ without doubt for me.

MJ's catalogue of work is still inspiring artists today, regardless of the genre. He revolutionised every aspect of music; Through verse, beats, dance, performance, video... there has never been and will probably never be an equal. Which is why his music will live forever.

But for me, it goes far beyond their music. They broke down boundaries of race and made it possible for black people to dominate public interest for their talent.

Moonwalk In Peace, MJ!

[Ale]

If you ask me who made the greatest impact on me with his music, I'd say MJ without any doubt. But being objective, I'd have to choose 'The Beatles'. I think there will never be a band like them. They shaped an entire generation.

So that's my opinion. And I'm not even a big fan of them.

[bart5]

Beethoven. Mozart. Bach...greatest composers of music, ever.

Edited by bart5, 22 July 2009 - 11:47 AM.

[analogue]

Michael Jackson. His influence is still around even to this day. Most of today's popular artist will say that Michael Jackson influenced them. Whether if it's singing. dancing or song writting Michael has influenced alot of today's popular artists in one way or another. Just look at Michael Jackson's memorial it was estimated that a billion people watched it. That alone should show the massive impact that he made on the music world

Michael Jackson has

Revoluationed music videos
Broke down racial barriers
has broken a ton of world records (even in death he's still doing this)


No one can come close to Michael Jackson

It goes like this (Well for me anyway lol)

There's stars - Paris Hilton, Miley Cyrus, Jonas Brothers etc
There's Superstars - Britney Spears, Christina Aguleria, Beyonce, Justin Timblerlake, Usher etc
There's Mega Superstars - The Beatles, Elvis Presley, Stevie Wonder, Prince etc
and then there's Michael Jackson

Everyone else is not even in the same league as Michael Jackson

Edited by analogue, 22 July 2009 - 12:48 PM.

[Big Ben]

Chuck Berry.

[KevTastic]

Yeh MJ more expanded and merged other genres to an incredible standard. Its hard to say that i'd put him first in this catergory though. You need to look back to the '50s and '60s really

[fresh_from_sofia]

Big Ben, on 22 July 2009 - 12:52 PM, said:

Chuck Berry.

true ,better for me then Elvis..... but i dont know who made it , its like :
Bob Marley for reggae
The Beatles for rock
James Brown for funk
MJ for pop
Louis Armstrong for jazz
Sam Cooke or Otis for soul
johnny cash for country
+Marvin Gaye ,Ray, Bob Dylan (maybe best lyrics)Little Richard,Freddie Mercury,Aretha Franklin...

for me the final battle will be James and Sam :)

but i dont know and i dont care more than that ;)

[Big Ben]

fresh_from_sofia, on 22 July 2009 - 04:52 PM, said:

Big Ben, on 22 July 2009 - 12:52 PM, said:

Chuck Berry.

true ,better for me then Elvis..... but i dont know who made it , its like :
Bob Marley for reggae
The Beatles for rock
James Brown for funk
MJ for pop
Louis Armstrong for jazz
Sam Cooke or Otis for soul
johnny cash for country
+Marvin Gaye ,Ray, Bob Dylan (maybe best lyrics)Little Richard,Freddie Mercury,Aretha Franklin...

for me the final battle will be James and Sam :)

but i dont know and i dont care more than that ;)

If you look at all Sam Cooke did in the music industry I don't think anyone can say he didn't have a huge impact in music, defiantly in my top 5 solo artists.

[bigted]

fresh_from_sofia, on 22 July 2009 - 04:52 PM, said:

Big Ben, on 22 July 2009 - 12:52 PM, said:

Chuck Berry.

true ,better for me then Elvis..... but i dont know who made it , its like :
Bob Marley for reggae
The Beatles for rock
James Brown for funk
MJ for pop
Louis Armstrong for jazz
Sam Cooke or Otis for soul
johnny cash for country
+Marvin Gaye ,Ray, Bob Dylan (maybe best lyrics)Little Richard,Freddie Mercury,Aretha Franklin...

for me the final battle will be James and Sam :)

but i dont know and i dont care more than that ;)

You broke it down there, I'm feeling that list, and of course when it comes to hip hop Chuck D is the most powerful voice, he disses the government yet congress put some Public Enemy albums in their library, now that's what I call power

[Ale]

fresh_from_sofia, on 22 July 2009 - 04:52 PM, said:

Freddie Mercury

My favorite singer, ever. I still don't know a rock star with a better voice than Freddie's.

Edited by Ale, 23 July 2009 - 01:46 PM.

[bart5]

Chuck D is a legend and all but I'd have to say 2pac would be the main artist for hip hop...you can't deny how revolutionary his muisc was. He was able to reach and appeal to almost anyone regardless of age, race or gender. I can't name another hip hop artist that has done that.

[bigted]

That's a tough argument there 'cause Pac's one of my favorite mcs ever as well... Now I think that Quincy Jones is arguably the greatest producer of all time in music history,he's worked with the greatest artists in all music genres, he's a music genius... really the thing that could settle the argument is that he produced the greatest album in music history in "Thriller"...

[fresh_from_sofia]

bart5, on 23 July 2009 - 01:49 PM, said:

Chuck D is a legend and all but I'd have to say 2pac would be the main artist for hip hop...you can't deny how revolutionary his muisc was. He was able to reach and appeal to almost anyone regardless of age, race or gender. I can't name another hip hop artist that has done that.

nah i dont think his music it was so revolutionary ..if there was no 2pac in the game it wont be a big diff in the rap right now , but without RUN DMC PE JJFP RAKIM and LL and 2/3songs and Kool Herc now that will be a big problem, "just" 2pac make the greastest combination of all in one hip hop artist :) and about "He was able to reach and appeal to almost anyone regardless of age, race or gender" that can say and for other mcs

[VIsqo]

I think Bob marley made a greatest impact because he made reggae famous in the whole world, only by himself, meanwhile all the others are just good expression of them already famous music styles..

[bart5]

fresh_from_sofia, on 23 July 2009 - 04:16 PM, said:

bart5, on 23 July 2009 - 01:49 PM, said:

Chuck D is a legend and all but I'd have to say 2pac would be the main artist for hip hop...you can't deny how revolutionary his muisc was. He was able to reach and appeal to almost anyone regardless of age, race or gender. I can't name another hip hop artist that has done that.

nah i dont think his music it was so revolutionary ..if there was no 2pac in the game it wont be a big diff in the rap right now , but without RUN DMC PE JJFP RAKIM and LL and 2/3songs and Kool Herc now that will be a big problem, "just" 2pac make the greastest combination of all in one hip hop artist :) and about "He was able to reach and appeal to almost anyone regardless of age, race or gender" that can say and for other mcs

I disagree bro, buts its all good. I don't think everyone could relate to those artists...although they paved the way and do deserve all the respect for what they have done for hip hop. I like all of those artists. but...

Not to make this a discussion or nothin but 2pac did change a lot for hip hop, he really has influenced soooooooo many rappers with his lyrical skill. I think if he pretty much caused a hate between the two coasts than he had a lot of impact. He helped change (as well as NWA and others) the freedom of speech for music albums, being originally banned from many stores for the cursing. He spoke against that. Pac made an impact on people being able to relate to anyone from poor pregnant single women in the hood, to white suburban culture, to millionaires athletes.

Not to mention the amount of material he did in his 25 yr life, he still has albums dropping 10 years later....

Edited by bart5, 23 July 2009 - 10:47 PM.

[fresh_from_sofia]

bart5, on 23 July 2009 - 10:44 PM, said:

fresh_from_sofia, on 23 July 2009 - 04:16 PM, said:

bart5, on 23 July 2009 - 01:49 PM, said:

Chuck D is a legend and all but I'd have to say 2pac would be the main artist for hip hop...you can't deny how revolutionary his muisc was. He was able to reach and appeal to almost anyone regardless of age, race or gender. I can't name another hip hop artist that has done that.

nah i dont think his music it was so revolutionary ..if there was no 2pac in the game it wont be a big diff in the rap right now , but without RUN DMC PE JJFP RAKIM and LL and 2/3songs and Kool Herc now that will be a big problem, "just" 2pac make the greastest combination of all in one hip hop artist :) and about "He was able to reach and appeal to almost anyone regardless of age, race or gender" that can say and for other mcs

I disagree bro, buts its all good. I don't think everyone could relate to those artists...although they paved the way and do deserve all the respect for what they have done for hip hop. I like all of those artists. but...

Not to make this a discussion or nothin but 2pac did change a lot for hip hop, he really has influenced soooooooo many rappers with his lyrical skill. I think if he pretty much caused a hate between the two coasts than he had a lot of impact. He helped change (as well as NWA and others) the freedom of speech for music albums, being originally banned from many stores for the cursing. He spoke against that. Pac made an impact on people being able to relate to anyone from poor pregnant single women in the hood, to white suburban culture, to millionaires athletes.

Not to mention the amount of material he did in his 25 yr life, he still has albums dropping 10 years later....

"I don't think everyone could relate to those artists." yeah yeah i am sure a lot of white kids playin with "guns" , talking about thug life and call each other m*f*thinking they are livin in a getto haha and about " poor pregnant single women in the hood" they are sitting on the sofa watching mtv all the time ,trust me :) nice of you using some articles;)
yeah of cource a lot of ppl can ralate to him , cuz he gots 2 sides , one of the intelligence and the other full of fun and sh*ts :):):)
i am not disrespecting 2pac or something hah he is atleast one of the best , i am just sayin that i dont see "how revolutionary his muisc was" i am sayin' that all the positive stuff of the game was already out and on the table and 2pac take all the parts ...

"he still has albums dropping 10 yeats later" , maybe 2pac had a reason not to put out every single thing that he have made , but probly the ppl that are getting all of the money now know better :):)

"I disagree bro, buts its all good" phew :)

Edited by fresh_from_sofia, 24 July 2009 - 07:33 AM.

[bart5]

Guess you didn't know that the reason he got into Digital Underground was through a 12 yr old-ish rich white girl who liked his demo, so her dad set up the meeting with 2pac and Shock G...haha just saying...and the poor pregrnant women was a reference to "Brendas Got a Baby", a song about pregnant women in the hood struggling to make it by. My point was he could relate to anyone that has struggled in their life. Plus just the fact alone that he was able to create that much music in such a short period, amazes me dude weather he intended to release it or not...its cool fresh, everyones got their own opinion. Just was stating mine.

Back to the main topic!

Edited by bart5, 24 July 2009 - 08:23 AM.

[fresh_from_sofia]

bart5, on 24 July 2009 - 08:09 AM, said:

..and the poor pregrnant women was a reference to "Brendas Got a Baby", a song about pregnant women in the hood struggling to make it by.

i know

[Big Willie]

Kurtis Blow, Bambaataa etc... arguably had the largest impact on hip hop, because they brought the culture to the forefront of music. Could Kurtis run with Pac lyrically, not in a million years. I dont really think Pac touched anymore subjects than anyone else did. It just seemed more natural because you know he lived the lifestyle, or even if he didnt, it was easy to believe he could have. I think FP has touched just as many subjects over the course of his career, but the perception of him is different, most see/saw him as a rich kid making music. So I think the impact is more about how you are percieved, more than what you actually did.