Members Philaflava Posted August 19, 2009 Members Report Share Posted August 19, 2009 I never ever heard that rumor..lol Could have to do with you being young and a foreigner. I don't know. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Turntable Posted August 21, 2009 Report Share Posted August 21, 2009 (edited) I heard a lot of Ghostwriting rumors, but I never heard of this one. And if it is true that I never heard it because I am to young, it is even more irrelevant caus nobody gives a crap about a old rumor lol Edited August 21, 2009 by Turntable Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bigted Posted August 22, 2009 Report Share Posted August 22, 2009 I think that this rumor was brought up here in the JJFP forum a couple years ago, people always trying to discredit Will's talent as an mc Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JumpinJack AJ Posted August 23, 2009 Report Share Posted August 23, 2009 Yeah, i don't wanna claim to be a know-it-all or anything but "Summertime" is straight Fresh Prince. His lyrics, style, and writing parttern of each era are so strong that u can tell when it's all him...and Homebase is all him. I was listening 2 it on the way home from work 2day and just being sucked back in 1991. Classic FP. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jin Posted August 23, 2009 Report Share Posted August 23, 2009 Yeah, i don't wanna claim to be a know-it-all or anything but "Summertime" is straight Fresh Prince. His lyrics, style, and writing parttern of each era are so strong that u can tell when it's all him...and Homebase is all him. I was listening 2 it on the way home from work 2day and just being sucked back in 1991. Classic FP. As I posted before Rakim himself denies that he wrote Summertime! The whole gost-writing crap started with Big Willie Style, when Will had his breakthrough. In an old interview Nas said he was just helping out with the hook, he didn't write the whole album or song. And if really someone did ghostwrite that its been kinda late, cause its a classic since almost 20 years and rumors would have popped earlier! Interview with Rakim and Flavor Flav Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members Philaflava Posted August 23, 2009 Members Report Share Posted August 23, 2009 You guys are super defensive about this. I realize this is a Will Smith fan site and it would make sense you guys defend him. I'm by no means saying the rumor is true but I'm not talking about Rakim writing Summertime. I I'm talking about a legendary battle rapper who has gone on record in saying he helped write the track. Rakim never went on record anywhere. This I'm talking about is a claim that was actually made. BallerStatus.com: Have you done ghost-writing for any artists? Juice: When I first moved back to Chicago from L.A., I began working with Clubhouse Entertainment. I was part of a writing team that produced "Summertime" by Will Smith, "The Kissing Game" by High Five, "Pass the Toilet Paper" by OutHere Brothers. I would freestyle in the booth and if there were any hot lines to be used, they would use 'em. I didn't really understand publishing at the time and didn't really care because those cats kind of took me in. We got sued by Kool and the Gang for the sample and nobody made money. It let me know that I had what it took to be a writer though. I am still working with the producer of "Summertime" (K Fingers aka AZZA). Everyone in Chicago knows he's still my guy. We just wrote and produced an album for a new artist, and I'm re-writing "Summertime" for him (He's a shorty, so we think it could work again). We'll see. KifyBoryaxoxy 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jin Posted August 23, 2009 Report Share Posted August 23, 2009 You guys are super defensive about this. I realize this is a Will Smith fan site and it would make sense you guys defend him. I'm by no means saying the rumor is true but I'm not talking about Rakim writing Summertime. I I'm talking about a legendary battle rapper who has gone on record in saying he helped write the track. Rakim never went on record anywhere. This I'm talking about is a claim that was actually made. BallerStatus.com: Have you done ghost-writing for any artists? Juice: When I first moved back to Chicago from L.A., I began working with Clubhouse Entertainment. I was part of a writing team that produced "Summertime" by Will Smith, "The Kissing Game" by High Five, "Pass the Toilet Paper" by OutHere Brothers. I would freestyle in the booth and if there were any hot lines to be used, they would use 'em. I didn't really understand publishing at the time and didn't really care because those cats kind of took me in. We got sued by Kool and the Gang for the sample and nobody made money. It let me know that I had what it took to be a writer though. I am still working with the producer of "Summertime" (K Fingers aka AZZA). Everyone in Chicago knows he's still my guy. We just wrote and produced an album for a new artist, and I'm re-writing "Summertime" for him (He's a shorty, so we think it could work again). We'll see. Yeah, but if there was really some truth behind it, don't you think the rumor would have come out earlier and not nearly 20 years later. I mean Summertime is hip hop's official summer anthem and classic! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members Philaflava Posted August 23, 2009 Members Report Share Posted August 23, 2009 You guys are super defensive about this. I realize this is a Will Smith fan site and it would make sense you guys defend him. I'm by no means saying the rumor is true but I'm not talking about Rakim writing Summertime. I I'm talking about a legendary battle rapper who has gone on record in saying he helped write the track. Rakim never went on record anywhere. This I'm talking about is a claim that was actually made. BallerStatus.com: Have you done ghost-writing for any artists? Juice: When I first moved back to Chicago from L.A., I began working with Clubhouse Entertainment. I was part of a writing team that produced "Summertime" by Will Smith, "The Kissing Game" by High Five, "Pass the Toilet Paper" by OutHere Brothers. I would freestyle in the booth and if there were any hot lines to be used, they would use 'em. I didn't really understand publishing at the time and didn't really care because those cats kind of took me in. We got sued by Kool and the Gang for the sample and nobody made money. It let me know that I had what it took to be a writer though. I am still working with the producer of "Summertime" (K Fingers aka AZZA). Everyone in Chicago knows he's still my guy. We just wrote and produced an album for a new artist, and I'm re-writing "Summertime" for him (He's a shorty, so we think it could work again). We'll see. Yeah, but if there was really some truth behind it, don't you think the rumor would have come out earlier and not nearly 20 years later. I mean Summertime is hip hop's official summer anthem and classic! True but we're talking about a relativity unknown rapper from Chicago. Juice was semi-known on the internet in the early 00's due to his Wake Up Show battles but it's not like Nelly went ahead and made these claims. He didn't say he wrote the song he said he freestyled in the studio and some of the lines were used. I do NOT believe it; however I wish somebody credible and honest would confirm. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest hero-guest Posted August 23, 2009 Report Share Posted August 23, 2009 I believe what Juice was saying.. Hula & K.Fingers did a great job producing JJFP tracks like summertime and they don't get enough credit.. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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