Luigie Posted November 5, 2008 Report Share Posted November 5, 2008 i feel hapy about this....things will be different from now on :) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Big Ben Posted November 5, 2008 Report Share Posted November 5, 2008 (edited) I'm just wonderinh you know, how things are there. I'm sure it would not be such a big deal in some european countrys. How many european countries currently have black leaders, and how many were built and thrived on the slave trade or slavery in general? I'd probably be willing to argue that most European countries thrived on slavery. I'm excited that the first president I ever got to vote for is the one that won. Edited November 5, 2008 by Big Ben Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Luigie Posted November 5, 2008 Report Share Posted November 5, 2008 (edited) Race, skin color watever u wanna call it, was is, and will be a very complex topic Edited November 5, 2008 by Luigie Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Turntable Posted November 6, 2008 Report Share Posted November 6, 2008 I'm just wonderinh you know, how things are there. I'm sure it would not be such a big deal in some european countrys. How many european countries currently have black leaders, and how many were built and thrived on the slave trade or slavery in general? That's not really the point, if a country had one till now or not. It's just about if the country would be suprised or not, which ya'll obiviously are. I'm not trying to hate tho. I'm happy he won, I hope he keeps up to his words. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Admin Hero1 Posted November 6, 2008 Admin Report Share Posted November 6, 2008 if you lived through segregation racism not being able to vote perhaps you would understand more..the historic nature..there's never been an indigenous prime minister of Australia .. I truly believe Obama has the capability not just to unite America but unite the world .. And head for more peaceful times .. We've had enough of bush and his failed policies.. Obama is going to inspire a lot of people.. And a side note abt palin if u thought she was scary before you should see what's coming out about her now..she didn't know africa was a continent didn't know who was in nafta her lack of knowledge was astounding Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Typhoon20 Posted November 6, 2008 Report Share Posted November 6, 2008 I'm just wonderinh you know, how things are there. I'm sure it would not be such a big deal in some european countrys. How many european countries currently have black leaders, and how many were built and thrived on the slave trade or slavery in general? That's not really the point, if a country had one till now or not. It's just about if the country would be suprised or not, which ya'll obiviously are. I'm not trying to hate tho. I'm happy he won, I hope he keeps up to his words. That's exactly the point. You just missed it or can't/won't see it. I'm sure if Holland got a black leader quite some dutch people would be surprised too. Plus I don't see many in here or in general being surprised about Obama being elected.At least not the majority, that's why they voted for Obama in the first place. America spoke loud and clear. There is no surprise (in the majority) just happyness and joy and how huge it is that the worlds most powerful leader for the first time ever is not white. If you can't comprehend how huge that alone is, you shouldn't even bother. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MissAshley Posted November 6, 2008 Report Share Posted November 6, 2008 And a side note abt palin if u thought she was scary before you should see what's coming out about her now..she didn't know africa was a continent didn't know who was in nafta her lack of knowledge was astounding why does this not surprise me? lmao. seriously how did she even manage to become governor? Like, who lost to her? I'm starting to agree with McCain on the point that "the failure was mine" uh, yeah cuz....wtf? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Turntable Posted November 6, 2008 Report Share Posted November 6, 2008 And a side note abt palin if u thought she was scary before you should see what's coming out about her now..she didn't know africa was a continent didn't know who was in nafta her lack of knowledge was astounding why does this not surprise me? lmao. seriously how did she even manage to become governor? Like, who lost to her? I'm starting to agree with McCain on the point that "the failure was mine" uh, yeah cuz....wtf? This is crazy..lol Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jin Posted November 6, 2008 Report Share Posted November 6, 2008 I never thought this will happen...I am so happy about it and that I am currently in the USA as an exchange student and be part of this historic moment tops everything! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Silver Tiger Posted November 6, 2008 Report Share Posted November 6, 2008 Typhoon, the world's most powerful leader has been black before. His title was Pharaoh. Anyway, congrats to Obama. I voted for him. I do think people have some unrealistic expectations for him though. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Admin Hero1 Posted November 6, 2008 Admin Report Share Posted November 6, 2008 well its better to have expectations high than low! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Silver Tiger Posted November 6, 2008 Report Share Posted November 6, 2008 I agree, gives him something to work for. A lot of people sound like all of their problems are history now though. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Guest orlando Posted November 6, 2008 Report Share Posted November 6, 2008 Im so glad Mc Cain lost!! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MaxFly Posted November 7, 2008 Author Report Share Posted November 7, 2008 I'm just wonderinh you know, how things are there. I'm sure it would not be such a big deal in some european countrys. How many european countries currently have black leaders, and how many were built and thrived on the slave trade or slavery in general? I'd probably be willing to argue that most European countries thrived on slavery. I'm excited that the first president I ever got to vote for is the one that won. Certainly not to the extent of the US, and not to the point where any of the European countries were built on the institution. Financially, many of the European countries benefited from slavery, but I wouldn't say "thrived." Historically, this is significant... from slavery, to separate but equal and jim crow just 45 years ago, to the tacit racism that still exists in many parts of the country... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MaxFly Posted November 7, 2008 Author Report Share Posted November 7, 2008 I'm just wonderinh you know, how things are there. I'm sure it would not be such a big deal in some european countrys. How many european countries currently have black leaders, and how many were built and thrived on the slave trade or slavery in general? That's not really the point, if a country had one till now or not. It's just about if the country would be suprised or not, which ya'll obiviously are. I'm not trying to hate tho. I'm happy he won, I hope he keeps up to his words. This isn't about shock or surprise... this is about history. Back in the 90s, Colin Powell had a very good shot at becoming the first black president of the US; he decided not to run. I don't think people are "surprised" that the President elect is African American. I think people are taking the time to appreciate history and celebrate an event that has been a long time in the making. It also says a great deal about a country which has had such a troubled and violent past in terms of race relations. When people celebrate new years, they're not celebrating because it's something they never expected or are surprised with. They celebrate to commemorate the occasion. This is what people are doing now... perhaps a little more fervently given the magnitude of the accomplishment. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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